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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:17 PM
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I hope my husband isn't going to have a disgruntled student situation
Apparently one of the medical students is throwing hissy fits because he got one B+ to go along with all of his As. He won't leave my husband or other professors alone and constantly harasses them via email and office visits. I hope this kid doesn't get a gun and run amok. :scared:
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:26 PM
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1. The student has the right appeal
and your husband should encourage him to do so but he also needs to let both the police and the student conduct office know about what is going on. He should also avoid private meetings with this student in the future.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:28 PM
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2. I know he does
But he won't take no for an answer. I'm hoping this kid is mature enough to swallow the disappointment and try harder next time.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:33 PM
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4. Sounds like he will have to take "no" for an answer.
If he keeps harassing the faculty, maybe he would rather be expelled. Not everyone is House.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:32 PM
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3. That's really quite unfair and a LARGE leap.
Seriously, this happens ONCE every thirty years or so and now it's okay to think every student that wants a better grade is going to go postal?

You're better than this, DTBK. I know for a fact you are.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:35 PM
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6. Did I say EVERY student will go postal?
Of course not! I wanted an A in Mental Health Law instead of the B+ I got, and I made appropriate inquiries to my professor, but I knew I had to accept it and get on with my life. I'm just concerned because my husband has to deal with this. In these unstable times, you just never know what people are going to do.

Jeez, people are touchy today. Guess I'll go back under my rock.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:37 PM
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8. Problem is, you don't know *who*
The ones capable of crossing the line don't wear signs around their necks. But they do show signs beforehand. And the constant harassment is a very disconcerting sign. I wouldn't ignore it.

BTW B+ is no cause for shame. Little jerk with entitlement issues needs to learn that.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:41 PM
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10. I agree that a B+ is no cause for shame.
The problem is that these academic institutions thrive on setting up these arbitrary and asinine competitions among students. If they don't want students going nuts over B+s, perhaps they shouldn't make such a big deal publicly about being tops in your class.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:53 PM
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11. Well yeah!
The question is, did you learn something in class? That's the REALITY. Subtle distinctions in grades are shit.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 03:26 AM
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23. Would that this were the case...
...but the American "educational" system, as it stands today, seems far less interested in teaching people than in evaluating and "sorting" them for the benefit of future employers. It's essentially like the first tier of the corporate world's personnel department -- designed to "screen out" the majority of students from the top careers and top positions in those careers.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:57 PM
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12. When I was in college I knew a fellow student who was on the honor council...
...which was this thing where students were involved in investigating incidents of cheating, and she said that it was the A students who cheated a lot, ones who were afraid of getting a single B.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:00 PM
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13. I remember when our first grades came out in law school
One of my classmates was extremely young (20 - she finished college in a year and a half) and was obsessing about the sole B+ she got. "I can't believe I got a B+! ME! I've NEVER gotten a B+ in my life!" As a less than stellar student, I really wanted to slap her silly, but somehow refrained.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:34 PM
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5. I hope the B+ wasn't in psychiatry.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:36 PM
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7. Actually, it was
My husband is a psychiatrist.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:39 PM
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9. Call the cops.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:02 PM
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14. How frequent is this harassment?
Does it seem to go on when there is really no other purpose than to just try to grind the faculty down and wear them out?

I was fairly aggressive with my studies and set on getting A's, but as far as contacting the professors, I would only do it if I got something marked down that I thought was unfair, and if they didn't accept my appeal I would leave it at that. This kid may just be like that, but it would depend on the purpose of his contact, whether or not it's meant to be intimidating and manipulative.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:06 PM
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15. Apparently one of the grand pooh-bahs in the dept. said he's been
"Out of line, disrespectful and demanding." He described his grade to my husband as a failing grade. Pray tell, in what perverted kind of grading system could a B+ POSSIBLY be a failing grade??
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:24 PM
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17. Said grand pooh-bah is going to have to straighten him out.
I don't want to be this guy's patient, that's for sure.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:09 PM
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20. In a consumer culture, they paid their tuition, they want their "A."
And with inflated grading, it happens. At my U, there is no grieving grades. Period. The prof's word is final. That's how it should be. I've lost count of the idiots who want to grieve "B" grades.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:16 PM
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16. I remember the time I got a 99 on an exam
I missed ONE parameter to fgets()! UNFAIR I TELL YOU! I just might have the case reopened 11 years later :-)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:39 PM
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18. You should have gotten an F- just for using stdio!
In my time, real programmers parsed their OWN data, goddammit, newlines and all! And we were happy with it!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:29 PM
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19. hey, no joke. I worked at a school where a student tried to appeal a grade that was a year old.
Students today are quite aggressive and think nothing of skipping all chain of command and going straight to a dean or president (or at least to their offices!)
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:16 PM
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21. Oh cripes.
Take your chances and your lumps, kids.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:30 PM
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22. I made a final grade of 99.7% for a post graduate class I took a
couple of years ago. I missed one half of one question on the final exam. The thing that really blew my mind was I answered the question according to the clarification I asked the professor for during class. I thought the term sounded like the opposite of what she said it was, so I asked for clarification. Her clarified explanation sounded like what I heard the first time.

It turned out that my hunch was correct and the meaning was the direct opposite of what I understood her to say.

I would have loved to have finished the course with a 100% grade... But I decided that a grade of 99.7% was nothing to sneeze at. I didn't protest the grade. :D
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 05:58 AM
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24. My college has grade deflation!
WHAT A FUCKING PRICK. :puke:
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