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Wed Jun-06-07 08:02 AM
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Loungers, are you ready to convert to Islam if necessary? |
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:11 AM
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1. Not if I gotta wash my feet in the sink ... |
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I'd need to put on a helmet, 'cause I'd likely slip during that contortion. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007706050368:rofl: But it brings up a question. If all the world was Islamic, would there be peace?
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:13 AM
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2. if people accepted universal datasuspect love into their hearts |
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there would be peace.
naturally i'd buy everyone a coke and make sure there was enough cake for everybody.
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:44 AM
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3. No, but I will be by January '09, when it will be mandatory. n/t |
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:54 AM
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my idea of fighting doesn't jive with sitting under a pile of rubble with a video camera slowly chanting some allah bullshit
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:57 AM
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7. But you get to put your videos on the internets! |
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With cool Arabic graphics n shit! :woohoo:
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:56 AM
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5. I understand it's a little tougher to meet girls that way |
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Wed Jun-06-07 08:56 AM
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Wed Jun-06-07 09:03 AM
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8. I already live in conutry ruled by a religion I don't believe in. |
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Besides the call to prayer is way cooler than a bunch of clanging bells.
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Wed Jun-06-07 09:07 AM
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I don't believe any organized religion has it right, so I'd do what I have to to stay alive.
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Wed Jun-06-07 10:37 AM
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:35 PM
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33. There's only one question for you people. |
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Why do you hate America?
and a PSA for those who aren't sure what I mean here: :silly:
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Wed Jun-06-07 10:47 AM
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11. Nah!! I like the religion I am now just fine! |
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Wed Jun-06-07 11:58 AM
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Wed Jun-06-07 12:13 PM
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I'd rather die than convert to that misogynist, intolerant, screwed up excuse for a religion. :grr:
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:05 PM
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19. how are any other abrahamic religions any different? |
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they all hate women, they're intolerant, and god is quite the smiter in all of them.
wacky.
pot meet kettle.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:20 PM
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25. When was the last time . . . |
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you heard of Jews or Christians committing "honor killings?" Or forcing women to wear burquas? We Christians, being human beings, are very far from perfect, meaning very far from what God wants us to be; but we've learned a few things the hard way over the centuries about tolerance and the treatment of women and children. I don't see most followers of Islam as having done the same. I get your point, and even today it has some validity -- but at least we're trying. Our God teaches generosity and tolerance -- we just don't live up to his ideals the way we should.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:22 PM
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28. As noted down thread, I'm fully ordained and employed |
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as an equal to my male colleagues. Try that in Islam, I double-dog dare ya.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:24 PM
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30. i think the stone throwing impulse is largely sublimated in modern christendom |
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but i look to the source text as justification for much criticism of christianity, viz, the holy bible.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:35 PM
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34. Try reading the Old Testament prophets, |
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especially Amos and Isaiah. I find it interesting that they spend a great deal more time talking about social justice and how we are to treat one another than about the "morality" issues that so obsess the Christian right these days. And in the Pentateuch, the God who seems to stern and condemning on the surface spends most of his time telling the Israelites how to set up a society where widows, children, and foreigners were to be treated with dignity, and where no one was to be exploited or taken advantage of. That's partly how I came to turn to the left as a Chistian, rather than to the right as so many do.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:39 PM
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35. i'm working on datasuspect version 2.0 |
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a kinder, gentler datasuspect.
personally, i have no use for organized religion, to each their own taste. but this forum is not the audience for my vitriol as it regards religion. i have to catch myself a lot.
i'm glad though that you have been able to come to an understanding of a belief system in such a way that it remains meaningful, yet humane.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:45 PM
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37. I think we all need to do the same . . . |
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working on becoming better human beings, that is. :hug:
As a feminist, though, Islam does seem to have nothing to offer women.
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:16 AM
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38. equating radicals of one religion to the whole opens you up to the same type of comparisons |
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just one too obvious example: abortion clinic bombings
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:21 PM
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26. It seems a lot more ingrained in Islam |
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at least to me. Many denominations have improved a lot in their treatment of women. Intolerance comes from a poor understanding of what Jesus was like. He was a pretty laid back and understanding dude. And fatherhood certainly mellowed God out quite a bit in the new testament.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:15 PM
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Wed Jun-06-07 12:18 PM
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14. Only if they transfer my ordination credentials without a big fuss |
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Which I don't see happening. :*
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Wed Jun-06-07 12:27 PM
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15. Oh no, you can do it over the phone. |
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They make it really easy nowadays. You don't have to fill out any forms or anything.
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Wed Jun-06-07 12:29 PM
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16. Wow. That's easier than the first time I did it. |
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Wed Jun-06-07 12:31 PM
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17. Yup, it's Islam Direct |
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:03 PM
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18. Is there an extra charge for the burqa? |
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Or is that part of the package?
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:06 PM
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20. on tuesdays and thursdays |
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:11 PM
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21. Something just occurred to me.... |
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don't I have to get a penis? Or at least a Y chromosome?
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:18 PM
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I'm not sure what the Prophet actually thought about these matters; whether he was progressive or not.
I would say, if you're into Wahhabism, probably yes. They're not very liberal. ;)
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:19 PM
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So I should look for a liberal sect, huh? Good to know.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:21 PM
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27. I think Sufism is probably a better prospect. |
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:23 PM
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29. Well, then, that's the direction I'll go, should it become necessary! nt |
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:32 PM
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31. I know it's a jokey topic, but.. |
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I have to stay Christian, because I believe Christ was divine and the Savior. But I also like being a somewhat independent Christian.
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:34 PM
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32. but, what about the atheists? |
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Wed Jun-06-07 01:45 PM
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36. there's no such thing as atheists! |
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silly, atheism ia a religion.
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:31 AM
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39. Oh sure, give me a reason to wear those stylin' scarves |
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I got lying around in my closet. And I'll never have to worry about having a bikini figure again.
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:33 AM
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40. There is no god. I went through the motions for so long in Christianity -- |
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I can go through the motions in Islam. I think.
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:42 AM
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I gave God his chance, he blew it by not existing.
*grabs Jesus' face "I know it was you, Jesus." *kisses Jesus "You broke my heart. You broke my heart."
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Thu Jun-07-07 11:20 AM
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42. No, they would have to kill this infidel. (I am agnostic) |
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