On the word "MILF"...

[Bicoastal]

This bawdy acronym has been around for a while, way before American Pie came out and made it popular. (If you still don't know what it means, Google is your friend.) However, it's almost mainstream now--you see it print media and hear it on TV fairly frequently, and even local shopping malls are selling "I'm a MILF" T-shirts in women's sizes. (Apparently, someone is buying.)

What's your take? Offensive? Complimentary? Just plain dumb? I personally think the word's only useful function has been the invention of similar but more ridiculous acronyms (Sophia Loren is a GILF, Daisy Duck is a DILF, Al Gore is a VPILF, I may qualify as an OPILF in someone's eyes), but that's about it. I'm interested in both guys and gals' opinions.

One thing's for sure--if someone called MY mother that, I'd make their dentist a very rich man.

[flvegan]

1. My take is IBTL.

[Guava Jelly]

4. does that mean

I'd Boink The Lady?? (ibtl) :dunce:

[flvegan]

5. Insert Between The

(you figure it out)
*snicker*

[Guava Jelly]

8. loofah?

:silly: I bet it rhymes with hips :D

[flvegan]

11. Thanks, O'Reilly

No, this is MILF, not MILTGBB. It would rhyme with kegs.

[Guava Jelly]

14. Eggs???...Wait i get it..

oooooooooooh!!

It's a sex thing

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Maybe I shouldn't start that Great MILFs of TV history thread.

:shrug:

[flvegan]

9. Double points if they're both tv moms and IRL moms.

I like it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

36. Hmm.

Has Phylicia Rashad got any kids?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

63. Does Danica Patrick have children? -nt

[truebrit71]

2. My MILF takes it as a compliment....

...but that's only 'cos she's so shaggable..... :evilgrin:

[Deja Q]

3. Gave birth or not, I'll stick with WILF...

I'd not make a good parental figure, however. And before you say it, I'll respond to it with a maxim: Some people are wise to know they are foolish. :D

[taterguy]

7. I've never used that term in real life

But in a twisted way it's progress, since it implies that women can be desireable even if they're not 20 year old college students with perfect bodies.

[DS1]

10. That's four words if 'to' doesn't count. Mother I'd Like to Fuck

for those of you too lazy to google

Examples

[BarenakedLady]

12. I don't mind it

In fact, I strive to be it. *cough* But then again I'm a little loony.

[billyskank]

13. Um

You know *I* would like to. :D

:loveya:

[BarenakedLady]

15. Hehehe

:blush:

[flvegan]

17. Careful, or someone's going to start a "DUILF" thread.

The server is having enough trouble, dontcha think?

[BarenakedLady]

19. A

Disobediant Upstart I'd Like....?

[flvegan]

23. Oh, boy

must...behave. Mods...watching...

[BarenakedLady]

25. What?

What'd I dooo?

O8)

[Inchworm]

18. I'll jump on

This wagon!

so.. whatcha wearing?

[BarenakedLady]

20. What

is my name?

[Inchworm]

21. I'll say your name

repeatedly, over and over, again and again, with an "oh lord" conclusion if ya'd like. :loveya:

:hide:

[BarenakedLady]

26. Oh dear...

What's my name again?

:P

[Inchworm]

29. Rawr!

hold still wild woman! Oh Barenakedlady!




:loveya:

[Oeditpus Rex]

16. As with sooooo many other things

especially those involving sex or sexuality, it's completely subjective.

Male A could say it to or about Female B and B would take it as a compliment, while Female C (or even Male D) would be offended. By the same token, Female B might be offended if it were said by Male D.

Also, if it were expressed as MWIFSA (Mature Woman I Find Sexually Attractive), it would convey the same meaning but without the same potential for offensiveness.

Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chance. :shrug:

[pagerbear]

22. What about DILF?

Especially YDILF?

[matcom]

24. What does it stand for?

I get that the 'M' = matcom but what is the rest?

:evilgrin:

:yoiks:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

62. Matcom Is Le Fou. -nt

[SarahB]

27. I call my husband my FFILF!

:rofl:

[hippiechick]

28. Not sure, actually ...

... and may I say, I have been called it before ... :blush:

I find it derogatory if it's used as an 'object' term - ie, the only reason a guy wants to talk to you or know you is because you're one - almost a status thing like 'have you ever driven a Porsche?'; but if its someone you know who uses the term in a joking or appreciative kind of way (like us girls telling each other we're smokin' hot MILF's, etc) ... then its alright.

:shrug:

[Left Is Write]

30. People seem to mistake MILF for a term that can be applied to any attractive mom...

but it's supposed to be applied only to the mother of someone roughly your own age; in other words, someone old enough to be your own mother.

It would be silly for a 25-year-old man to refer to a 25-year-old mom as a "MILF." If he's attracted to that 25-year-old's mother, THEN we're into MILF territory.

[Elidor]

31. Odd, I never saw that definition on the MILFhunter website

The guy who coined the term did not pick any nits about proper definitions.

[Left Is Write]

32. Right there on his first page he makes reference to "mature" moms.

Look at the context in which it's used in American Pie.

The term itself connotes a generational difference - that in order to be a MILF, one must be old enough to be the boy's mother.

[Elidor]

33. I'm not so sure about that

I've always been attracted to "mature" women. When I was 20, that meant 40-ish. Now that I'm 40-ish, it still means 40-ish.

Ah well, why quibble. Women are better when they're older. 20-year olds have always seemed like children to me. Let's hear it for da wimmins! :toast:

[Left Is Write]

34. As a 40-ish woman, I say...

GOOD!

But I do think the older woman connotation is central to the definition of MILF.

[Connonym]

38. I thought those were cougars?

A couple of my male friends have used MILF to describe a woman they're interested in. Because I know them and know that they're really pro-woman and they mean it as a compliment. Then there's the "I'd hit it" expression. That one bothers me.

[Left Is Write]

39. I hate "I'd hit it".

Talk about objectifying.

[northzax]

40. no, a cougar is different than a MILF

(can't believe I wrote than sentence)

a cougar is predatory, an older woman looking for a younger man. a MILF is just a sexually attractive woman old enough to be your mother.

now, while we're on the subject, do we need to clear up anything about the Cleveland Steamer?

[Connonym]

41. oh god I'm afraid to ask

I'll go look at Urban Dictionary to save you some time :-D

[GalleryGod]

47. 'Fraid Not.

But I'm a GUY...so take it with the Great Salt Lake portion of Salt.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. Nothing wrong with MILFs.

:evilgrin:

[sniffa]

37. no opinion

no outrage, no support for it.

[ContraBass Black]

42. Someone should link to the GD thread in which Pelosi was described

As a GILF.

The responses there were vivid.

[KamaAina]

43. Takes me back to an NYC DU meetup a couple of years ago

I happened to be in town visiting Mom and Repuke Stepdad, so I stopped over. Turns out some of the out-of-towners wre staying at a well-known budget (by Manhattan standards) hotel, the Milford Plaza.

Don'tcha know, the letters "ORD" on the sign were out...

[GalleryGod]

48. Lynnesin was all over that breaking story.

Those WERE the Days!
DU?
Meet-Ups!
People falling hard off their wagons>>>>>>

[Fleshdancer]

44. wearing a shirt that says "I'm a MILF" doesn't make sense

does that mean you'e telling the world that you're a mom and that you like to masturbate? :shrug:

Shouldn't it be "I'm a MYLF"?

[GalleryGod]

46. No. Proclaiming Milf Status AND Availability

is the probable intent

[Deja Q]

56. So the person wearing the shirt is advertising for their mother?

:hide:

[Fleshdancer]

64. but if the acronym stands for mother i'd like to f*ck,....

so saying "I'm a mother I'd like to f*ck" just sounds like you're a mom who likes to f*ck yourself. It would make more sense to just wear a t-shirt that simply said MILF on it and leave out the "I'm a" part. Then again, I guess the women who actually buy shirts that say crap like that aren't too bothered by it.

I, for one, say let them wear it...it helps me identify the idiots much faster that way.

[GalleryGod]

45. How nice of you, Sir Gallahad.

Mom would feel different.

[Redstone]

49. It's not a word, it's an acronym. Just in case nobody else has pointed that out.

Redstone

[billyskank]

55. An acronym is a word.

It's a word whose letters stand for something, such as 'laser.'

What makes an acronym a word is that an acronym should be pronouncable as a word; it should not be a mere abbreviation made up of initial letters, such as "FBI". Most people think all such abbreviations are acronyms, but they're not.

[snailly]

50. Again, it's all about how MEN feel about women

Basically if you've had several major operations to your breasts and stomach after you've had kids and you're somewhat pleasing to the peanut gallery then you are a women they would still fuck even though you are not 20 years old anymore.
There ya go!

[billyskank]

54. I know aren't MEN awful?

:eyes:

[hiaasenrocks]

59. LOL

[gmoney]

51. Shouldn't the t-shirt say "MYLF" ?

Mom YOU'D Like (to) Fondle

[Wapsie B]

52. To me it's a word that can be taken as objectifying

and downright crass, along with terms like "I'd hit it." But we're talking about sex here. Used in the proper context they can be used as part of the mating ritual. It's supposed to be naughty and risque.

[datasuspect]

57. like all the "humorous" discussion about penis sizes in the lounge lately?

as a man, i feel very objectified. i am more than just a PENIS dammit!!!!!1111

[nosillies]

53. I hadn't much thought about it until I heard a kid call me that last weekend.

It was one of the best moments of my life. Call me shallow, but I'm still excited about it.

[I Have A Dream]

58. I personally think that it's a crass, tacky term.

When someone uses it, it lowers my opinion of them.

I personally would never be flattered to be referenced that way.

[hiaasenrocks]

60. I've seen this discussion before (twice in person ) BOTH times the women in the

group who didn't like the word were not in any danger of having the term used to describe them anyway. The men who thought the term was "offensive" were married to those women.

My gf and two other couples talked about it after the second discussion (second dinner party where the same subject was raised) and we all noticed that fascinating group dynamic.

:think:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

61. Maaaan... When looking at the responses in this thread, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking!

:thumbsup:

[NewWaveChick1981]

65. I really don't mind it.

:hi: