It's coming in only 10 minutes.... The Sopranos SERIES FINALE!!

[LibraLiz1973]

I am SO ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bdamomma]

1. ok guys how is this going to end?? sitting at the edge of my seat!!

[Elidor]

2. GIVE ME SPOILERS!!!! Pleeeeeeze!

I HAVE NO CABLE! AAAAAAAGH!!!!
:cry:

[hlthe2b]

3. Me too.. I'll have to wait months on the DVDs, so spoil away!

I'm caught up through season 6, part 1 and have already heard bits about what's happened these last few episodes... So, since there is no way in hell I'll get through to the point when the DVDs come out without hearing about it, I say SPOIL AWAY!

[Elidor]

4. Developments here:

http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700009756&start=0&tstart=0

Refresh periodically.

[hlthe2b]

5. thx, Hardhead...

:thumbsup:

[Elidor]

6. Paulie's gonna kill the cat!!!

Just kidding. Dang, I'm far too excited for someone who's reading posted recaps on a message board.

[hlthe2b]

7. Yeah... it is a pretty strange experience....LOL

[AlCzervik]

11. omg--the gas station.

[hlthe2b]

14. THE SUV ROLLS OVER PHILS HEAD...THAT HAD TO HURT!!!

:rofl: The comments on the HBO board slay me!

[AlCzervik]

15. the noise--the noise!! Grossss!

[Moochy]

20. Share the link! :)

I wanna see! Phil's Scanner moment.. lol

[hlthe2b]

22. Just an HBO forum, no video

http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700009756&start=0&tstart=0

[Moochy]

24. Thanks!

"Phil's not gonna have an open casket."

:rofl:

[MnFats]

83. cant get there...must be a million people on that forum...

what the hellll....a great ending..

[mcscajun]

88. HBO and IMDb are both Flooded with Sopranos traffic.

Might be tomorrow before things quiet down - people are mostly pissed off.

[VenusRising]

122. Try this

http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/833

[hlthe2b]

128. Wow... thanks...!

I didn't know about that link...

[bdamomma]

8. wow wow wow

[Inchworm]

9. fark fark fark!

Had company come by at 8:45!

I have to wait until midnight. Hiding thread :(

:cry:

[Deja Q]

10. Must... resist... temptation... to... copycat!

:rofl:

[Moochy]

12. Buh Bye Phil!!

:bounce:
:party: I used post 5000 for Phil Leotardo's exploding head...

[AlCzervik]

13. Billy Batts---out.

[Elidor]

16. "Hey, ma, dis is some great spaghetti sauce! Ey, I need ta borrow dis knife."

;)

[AlCzervik]

17. ya like a leg or wing?

:rofl:

[Moochy]

18. I suspected

that tony would win out over Phil :) what a way to go though..

[Wapsie B]

19. I was too.

sigh..........

So Phil does get it. Cool.

[AlCzervik]

21. Everytime sometimes starts their car i cover my eyes.

[Elidor]

23. "Springsteen will show up to collect Sil's body..."

:rofl:

(from the HBO board)

[AlCzervik]

25. oh good lord i can't stand it--the waiting.

[Moochy]

26. they are all so dead...

:scared:

Ok now my head is like Phil's...

Bravo! Chase.. Bravo!

[AlCzervik]

27. Oh No they Didnt!!!!!!!!

[zulchzulu]

28. Tony pulls the rubber mask from his head and he's...Brett Favre!!!!

Kidding...

:rofl:

[bicentennial_baby]

29. What bullshit...

x(

[shanti]

35. the ending SUCKED!!!!

:( what was that all about????

[RubyDuby in GA]

30. Did the screen just go blank? Was that it?

[AlCzervik]

Yes--that was it, over.

[Bunny]

33. That was it!

The end.

This ending was very David Chase, never tying up loose ends. It's disappointing in a way, but very typical for Chase.

[Maraya1969]

114. But was that guy in the diner with them the hit man who took out Bobby?

I kept waiting for him to shoot the whole family.

[Connie_Corleone]

31. Well that was just.....FUCKED!!!!!!!!!

[Drunken Irishman]

32. WTF is up with that ending?

Was something going down, or was it all just made to be that way and everything is fine? Ugh, weird ending.

[ElboRuum]

36. OK, that was an episode ending in WTF?!

Not how I would have left it.

[mcscajun]

37. WTF!?!?!?!!?

Maybe something was going down, maybe not...Cut to black???

Damn David Chase.

[MnFats]

55. that was David Chase fuckin' whicha...with all of us...

...i had to laugh, though....never been so manipulated by a tv show....

[sandnsea]

59. It was great

Taking us on a ride - and at the same time telling the PC police to go fuck themselves. I loved it.

[Singular73]

150. *sigh*

It was perfect.

If you watch the scene, watch Tony's eyes, watch your eyes, watch the camera, it was the blending of paranoia this guy feels everyday, except this time YOU expected it to happen.

He expects it to happen every moment of every day.

That was the point.

Nothing happened.

Tony didn't die.

His daughter not parking the car correctly was just there to build anticipation - to make you think something was going to happen...without that it would have been lame.

Its all so simple.

He drew the audience into the show, figurately...made them part of it...made them emphasize.

[Shakespeare]

66. I know!!

When the screen went blank, I paused for a beat and then died laughing, and actually yelled at my TV, "oh, fuck you David Chase!" And kept laughing.

God, what a great show.

[devilgrrl]

34. possible spoilers.... WTF????

Did the screen just go back as Meadow enters the diner? WTF kind of ending is that?

[Liberal Veteran]

38. Yeah.....that's exactly what we said: WTF????

:shrug:

[Drunken Irishman]

40. I have no f'n clue!

Were those two going to shoot Tony, or were they just being suspicious for the sake of being suspicious?

[AlCzervik]

41. do we mke the leap the dude with the black hair and members only jacket was waiting for Meadow

to arrive so he could take them all out?

[mcscajun]

45. YUP. That's JUST what it did.

And Life for the Soprano family (both of 'em) goes on as it always has, just without us to see it.

NOT the ending I was expecting, at all.

At. All. x(

[LibraLiz1973]

39. That may have been the worst ending EVER

Maybe later I will feel differently.

Otherwise........ ummmmm... what?

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

48. Wonder if they're leaving it open for a movie?

[Moochy]

64. You Gotta Believe!! :)

I disagree, I think they are done.

[johnfunk]

50. Completely disagree -- it was insidious and brilliant

SPOILER SPACE...

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I had a feeling that's how they'd end it. Whackaroo. Yagoddaproblemwiddat?

[bdamomma]

42. what was that ending, that they all made it, I thought meadow

was going to get killed or something, but weird ending, may be they showed that they made it alive, or did they?

[jumptheshadow]

43. So -- looks like there will be a movie

And I thought the cable went out at the end....

[mcscajun]

52. Your second thought was my first.

But no, Your first thought is probably the case. But not for a couple of years, I'll wager.

[Shakespeare]

44. Oh, yeah. There's gonna be a movie. n/t

[LibraLiz1973]

Was the point that life goes on? And to not stop believing?

The Soprano family just rolls on? With Tony about to be indicted?

And no closure on Syl?

[sandnsea]

56. Yep, on it goes n/t

[MichiganVote]

63. You're missing the political subplot.

[sandnsea]

78. I don't think so

After all the fighting and screaming and yelling, and all the political angst and agony - we're ALL selfish Americans to some extent, we come together, and it doesn't mean shit because the world will go on with or without us.

[MichiganVote]

81. Actually I ad a different take on it. I thought the writer was comparing the clowns in office

as being just as crooked as Tony and his buddies. Sort of removing some of the tragedy...but I think I'd like to see it again.

[sandnsea]

90. And goes on and on

Good bad and ugly. Just like the world, with or without America. But don't stop believing we can come together and be better than what we are now.

[MichiganVote]

94. Yeah, if there was a message or messages, that seems one of them.

[sandnsea]

107. I expected a PC ending

I have hated all the PC stuff they've had to compromise on over the years, the smoking and whatnot. It seemed to me Chase was setting it up to show us what a bad guy Tony really was, so we'd be glad when he was arrested or killed in the end. I am mostly just SO GLAD that we didn't get that POS ending. This one is just perfect for me. It's life. I really just love it!

[MichiganVote]

126. Oh I didn't think there would be PC ending. And I really think a Godfather ending

would have been too easy for viewers. Sort of trite and predictable. There are some very interesting ideas on this thread and I agree, I liked it. The Phil part was horrid but really funny too.

[GCP]

46. That guy at the bar - did he kill Tony?

That's the only way I see it.

[ElboRuum]

54. The world may never know.

[Elidor]

77. They're all dead

That's what I believe.

[Moochy]

96. Unless Tony Transforms into Chow Yun Fat!

So you all think Phil did not have the clout to call in a decaptiation post-mortem?

NYC ???

[dysfunctional press]

110. no...he went to the bathroom.

nt

it goes on...this thing of ours.

[flamingyouth]

47. Lame-ass ending, but Phil's death was totally great.

Last week's episode was so much better.

[librechik]

49. had to check in here to see if I somehow missed something

wow, are they going to get spanked for that!

[sandnsea]

51. lol, and on and on

Good, bad and ugly - don't stop believing in America. Awesome.

[Moochy]

58. Anyone else think that was an awesome ending?

It goes on and on and on and on!

How Do You Think The Story Should have ended for Tony the diagnosed sociopath should have ended ? :think:

[MichiganVote]

69. I think the writer said create your own.

[Moochy]

82. Choose your own adventure!

:lol: I agree on closure, they are gonzo...
...or not. :patriot: :P :kick:
:shrug:

[MichiganVote]

87. I sort of like the not knowing.

[Moochy]

91. It is more revealing to hear how the viewer thinks it *should* end

:) i may start my own thread on it... :think:

[MichiganVote]

103. I agree. I'm finding the opinions of others both b/f the show and following

very interesting. Like being in English class with the mob. :)

[johnfunk]

60. Title of the episode was "Made in America"

Nice ironic choice of music.

[sandnsea]

71. I didn't catch that

So yeah, all the better. The whole bit about AJ was classic. It reminds me of Dean people who now support Hillary - I've been feeling that political 'wtf' for a while now.

[Generator]

152. There are DEAN people that support Hillary?

What drug is that?

[libnnc]

53. What the fuck was that?

After all these years...that totally, totally sucked.

[MistressOverdone]

57. I FEEL SO USED

!!!

Like it was all just to get us to see the movie. I don't care anymore.

[Julius Civitatus]

61. DISAPPOINTING and BRILLIANT at the same time

Won't give away any info or spoil it for those on the West coast... but the ending is both brilliant and disappointing at the same time. A bit of a cop out, a bit of screenwriting genius.

Can't make up my mind yet, but it was as clever as anticlimactic.

[Julius Civitatus]

This is THE POINT: It goes on, they are greedy and messed up, it never ends

What I read from this ending:

• The Sopranos: They really are "made in America", as the title of the episode suggests
  
  
• In the end, no matter how much we got to like them, they are greedy, mean-spirited, cruel, and shallow
  
  
• Even those developing a heart (A.J.) left their "bleeding heart" causes for a Beemer and a glitzy shot at the glamorous life
  
  
• Throw in some money and some comfort, and everyone forgets about the war (the foreign one, and the gang war of the mafia families) and get back to their silly routines (A.J. to watch TV, Carmela to hunt for a mansion, Tony to eat junk food at greasy spoons, etc)
  
  
• A.J. and his attitude is a very clever social commentary about what's wrong with America today and our complete numbness to the suffering in the world. Recently, A.J. becomes hyper-sensitive when he experiences real loss in his life, and starts a journey of self-discovery. In the process he becomes obsessed with world affairs and "fixing the world" by even joining the army. All that goes out the window when mom and dad intervene and buy him a BMW and a job in Hollywood. Later we see A.J. watching TV, laughing at Bush and Rove in their recent (and very embarrassing) public attempts to dance. He is numb to politics again. He doesn't care anymore: he has a new girlfriend and a cool job.
  
  
• The ironic use of the Journey song (as much as I hate that f#cking song) is the very title and very point of the series, and today's title: Small town boy, small town girl, fighting to make their way in America by any means. Nothing more American than the shallow, greedy gangster. If you grew to love and sympathize with the Sopranos, forget it: they are disgusting. And it never ends, it never changes. Don't stop believing. And it goes on, and on, and on...

Just my 2 cents. Any other ideas? Any suggestions?

[Moochy]

125. The existential angst was all proxy for

AJ: existential angst is all cured soon as he has a girlfriend... :rofl: Did anyone really expect AJ to have some moment of transformation?

[Julius Civitatus]

129. Yes. It was a good set up

A.J. was shallow, spoiled and dumb. It came down to the his shallow, spoiled and dumb self.

[sandnsea]

132. That is ALL Americans

I see that shit play out every day right here on DU. Don't kid yourself - it isn't just about a handful of greedy gangsters, or right wingers, or whatever people might want to politically believe.

[Julius Civitatus]

142. After Phil's ghastly death, they go to the diner to munch...

actually, scratch that. Let me rephrase it:
After Tony orders the ghastly murder of Phil, the Sopranos go back to normal. It's because their uncaring brutality that the Sopranos can go back to normal without any cares. Not a sign of guilt about Phil's grandkids; not even Carmela.

[MnFats]

147. Philly started it....he deserved his end.

[sandnsea]

149. Just like America

No matter what gruesome shit occurs, you pick up and go on. Friday, we're watching the Secy of Defense dismiss the Congress, rather GHASTLY - and the country is focused on a driving violation. And then sits down to watch the Sopranos Sunday night. WE are the Sopranos - like it or not.

[mudesi]

62. That was GREAT!

Come on, people. Chase did exactly what nobody was expectimg. As usual.

I loved it. I was dying for the credits to roll!

[Feron]

80. I agree

although I was afraid my satellite had cut out for a second there. LOL

[bdamomma]

65. who was that guy who went to the BR????

maybe this is what Chase wants us to do, think of how it ended?

also the music they were playing was a clue, that life goes on and on.

[mudesi]

67. He's letting us decide what happens to Tony (nm)

[MichiganVote]

72. Right.

[AlCzervik]

68. the guy thats gonna kill them.

[MichiganVote]

70. Then that will be your ending.

[AlCzervik]

74. yes, thats my ending, i need closure.

[Olney Blue]

75. The device of having Meadow unable to parallel park built the tension

so high...

[AlCzervik]

79. that was pretty good, that and the bell on the door.

[Drunken Irishman]

85. I just kept thinking about how that's me trying to parallel park.

haha

[bdamomma]

95. yea, me too, and getting as frustrated as Meadow.

[bdamomma]

93. yes, that scene made me nervous

but I guess it is all up to us to figure out the ending.

but what a great show.

[Shakespeare]

73. Nice reference to Michael in Godfather I, too.

Going to the men's room to get the gun.

Incredible fucking show.

[dysfunctional press]

100. just a guy going to the bathroom...

this thing of ours- it goes on.

(but the 'trucker' in the usa hat was definitely a fed)

[Moochy]

127. I think it was the waitress

I don't trust them Waitresses! :crazy:

[bettyellen]

76. a brilliant commentary on the america's panic fatigue, aj forgetting about terror

the minute they throw a seductive jon in front of him.... the family letting their guard down so quickly after being in defcon-4 mode. being at war is normal. i loved it.

[MichiganVote]

84. Yeah, I liked that too.

[sandnsea]

86. American shallowness

and how quickly we toss aside so called princples when money is thrown at us.

[nonconformist]

89. I'm still stunned. I'm so disappointed, yet that ending was rather brilliant

Or maybe a bit of a cop-out, I'm not sure exactly how I feel yet... besides disappointed.

:cry:

[ok_cpu]

92. What happened to the damn Russian from the Pine Barrens?

:hide:

[Moochy]

98. Living in the past man,...

:D :yoiks:

[ok_cpu]

109. But he was an interior decorator

:crazy:

[dysfunctional press]

140. and for an interior decorator- he sure had a crappy apartment...

:bounce:

[MnFats]

145. he killed 16 Czechoslovakians!

[RubyDuby in GA]

115. Maybe he was in the bathroom???

:shrug:

That episode will go down in history as the ulimate in Classic Sopranos.

[dysfunctional press]

118. now THAT is going to make a nice desktop...

Thanks.

as for the russian guy from the pine barrens- it's like the whole series...chase never learned how to write an ending, so he doesn't.

[zulchzulu]

97. On HBO forum, someone thought the cable signal went out at ending

:rofl:

As someone else said, HBO Soprano fans got punked by David Chase.

[jannyk]

99. Does everyone else feel like you just spent an hour

indulging in really hot sex but failed to reach an orgasm?! 'Cause I do - it took me right to the edge - all hot and sweaty and anticipating - nerves all jangling......and then ........nothing!!!! I'm so frustrated I could spit!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Drunken Irishman]

101. Well since I don't get sex often...

It felt like jerking off in the bathroom, nearing the point where I'm about to, you know, and then having someone knock on the bathroom door.

[dysfunctional press]

104. more like several years jacking off...with no climax.

nt.

[Moochy]

105. So With All That Passion, how did it end for you?

If you were David Chase? I mean this in the most constructive way.. :D

[jannyk]

116. I think Mr. Chase is...

rolling on the floor laughing his ass off. He got us all ...real good!

[zulchzulu]

117. More like...

...indulging in a really great meal where you think it's chicken only to find out it's roadkill otter that was made into dogfood...

[MnFats]

146. well i got off on it....very pleasantly...

...the jolt when the screen went black sent me over....

[Liberal Veteran]

Contrast the reaction between this and Six Feet Under's finale.

Six Feet Under had a finale that was almost universally loved as a brilliant and perfect ending to the show.

This is just a :wtf: moment.

[hlthe2b]

112. Yes... Six Feet Under was the very best...

MASH finale, second, I guess....

[AlCzervik]

120. i was crying my eyes out during that. Now that was some closure.

[Moochy]

133. Six Feet under characters

..were not (lovable) sociopathic killers. They ended that more family oriented show in the right vein. :D

[Moochy]

119. More Demanding than the 6 ft under

Which was even more brilliant, IMO.

[zulchzulu]

102. So the ending is...

Tony got whacked and Meadow took over. It will be now Soprano Daughter...

[MichiganVote]

108. And that will be your ending.

[Moochy]

138. And for others' it will be the worse ending ever

Not judging anyone's reactions, and it seems to be a glass half-empty vs. glass half-full question.

[jannyk]

113. For all we know....

they all got whacked - we'll never know.

[zulchzulu]

130. Actually...

Tony, Meadow, Carmella and AJ were all at the diner and all went into the witness protection program with the FBI...

This still gets a sequel/movie...although Tony won't be in it...

[hlthe2b]

106. Snort: "woo-hoo! let's all dare to venture outside and get lives now!"

Best ending post from the HBO forums.....:rofl:

[Moochy]

111. But we might get Whacked!!!!

I'm concerned about the Fear generated by HBO!! :D

[zulchzulu]

121. I wanted it to end like Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Yunno, where the cops show up and arrest everybody for disturbing the peace...

[dysfunctional press]

123. Apparently david chase was sick the day they covered endings in film school?

i mean, i think it's funny, the way he punked us all...but what the fuck was THAT?

oh well...kill bill 2 is on IFC...now THAT'S an ending!

[Shakespeare]

136. Not a big fan of Mozart, either, are you? n/t

[begin_within]

124. What is "The Sopranos?"

[MichiganVote]

131. Pretty much the Bush/Cheney family.

[sandnsea]

134. America n/t

[Moochy]

135. American Dreams

The American Dream! Can we overcome our basest instincts?

[LibraLiz1973]

137. Last weeks episode should have been it.

It was THE episode. Tonights was a joke. David Chase can write all the shit he wants about whats wrong with our culture any other time. But the fans
have been loyal to that show for YEARS- even with it's fucked up schedule & sometimes below par episodes. Like Part 1 of Season 8, the whole Vito story.
It was AWFUL. Boring as hell.

I never loved the show as much as I did Season 1. Other episodes were great but Season 1 was phenomenal. Without Nancy Marchand, something changed.
The acting from the other cast members was superb though, even when the writing was NOT.

When the second half of Season 2 started, I had such high hopes. So many things happened, and it seemed they were building toward a fantastic climax.

I feel robbed.


I think the fans deserved alot better than what we got.

[dysfunctional press]

139. actually the fans got exactly what we deserved...

we should have learned a while back.

[LibraLiz1973]

141. ROFLMAO

You are not wrong


Should have seen it coming

[latebloomer]

155. Totally, totally agree!

Season 1 was a masterpiece, and the whole mother-son bit was a large piece of its psychological complexity.

It went steadily downhill from there.

I'm actually relieved it's over-- the last few episodes had been such an orgy of grim violence.

[nonconformist]

143. Wait... if you park on dry leaves your car can explode?

I had no idea... if this is true, this definitely sounds like information I should be made aware of.

[Duer 157099]

153. That's what I was thinking too

Who knew?

[Crabby Appleton]

144. I liked it OK except the part at the end where * came on and

gave full pardons to Tony Soprano, Scooter Libby, and Paris Hilton, WTF was that about?

[Drunken Irishman]

148. Hey, Tony is cool and deserves a pardon! ;)

[Generator]

151. WHOA! Ziti!

I never liked this show very much-characters violent and SO unlikable. YET, after we got HBO I watched the back episodes and caught up-because like a freaking car accident-you CANNOT look away and damn it all you want to know if they live or die...

So..on the one hand it was super lameo-don't stop believing-possibly a giangto clue that Tony was getting whacked-remember the good times, that's what you said, says Tony Jr.-clearly the Tone was coming to an end whether he bit it or was hauled off to jail land....and yet-give us a clue as to the answer-ON the other hand NEVER in four billion years would regular network TV have the balls to do the "FADE TO BLACK, make up your own ending" and thank GOD for that.

I don't like cliches but come on. Give us something more poetic. AND the worse thing was this episode was one of the better ones EVER-political and thoughtful-where many were so violent, racist and misogynist you needed a bath after. BUT that's your ziti folks. Extra cheese.

[Atman]

154. The ending made a very strong point.

It was really very simple; You never know when it's going to end, even when you're expecting it, or think you know what's coming. I won't say it's "brilliant," and last night I was crying "COP OUT!" but on reflecting, it was really rather clever...there we all were, just minding our business, thinking we knew what was up then *BAM* lights out.

What better way to show the end?

[Olney Blue]

156. Yes, after thinking about it- how else could it have ended, really?

Would he have shown the shooting of Tony in slow motion, with blood spewing out? Boring and predictable.

Would they have all climbed into a van to drive off to a witness protection program? Boring.

Would they have shown Tony having a massive heart attack and chocking on an onion ring while family gathers around hospital bed? Boring.

No, this was the really the only way to do it.