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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:08 AM
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I'm just glad that a Democrat won the Caucus - I don't care who
Just sitting here reading all the piss and moan threads, and the uniquitous "Hey, buttheads, here's why Kerry IS DANGEROUS TO HUMANITY" threads...screw all that.

A democrat won the caucus. How much more do we need?

Every Dem candidate has black hole issues and danger zones - they're human beings. They all have wonderful ideas, too - they're Democrats.

I'm simply filled with glee tonight that the process happened and it worked and that EVERY ONE of the five people who have a chance of winning the nomination are ALL great in their own way and would ALL make excellent presidents.

I don't remember EVER being this excited by a group of candidates in the past. Tonight, I celebrate that the process worked, that we're still allowed to vote, and that instead of having to choose which one is least disastrous, I'm forced with having to decide which one is actually the most qualified. And it's a difficult choice.

Yay Democrats!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:11 AM
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1. Well put.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:14 AM
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2. a democrat won????
dam, those hicks in Iowa actually voted? for a democrat? my god,i`m going to have to call my relation out there and congratulate them....
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:15 AM
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3. Fuckin' Ay, Rabrrrrrrr.
I'm a Deaner, but shit, so what. I really don't care WHO gets the nod, just get BUSH O U T!!! (I'm getting tired of typing that, but it needs to be stated again and again....) Really I should be depressed that Eugene Debs or Mo Udall aren't running, right? Anyhow...... but what the hell. It's ABB for me all the way. I'm just glad a non-fascist is running and has a chance of winning against Bush. No more NeoCons in the White House!


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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:14 AM
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10. Yeah!!
Anyone but Shrub! And I'm a Clarkie, and he wasn't even in the caucus, but who cares? They're all good!

It's not like we're running bozos like Dukakis or Mondale any more. Whew!!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 02:03 AM
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19. Exactly. None of the candidates are weak.
I just checked out a bunch of posts by a handful of posters in GD2004 who claim that they will not vote Dem if Dean doesn't get the nod. THAT IS FUCKED. TRULY FUCKED.

So.....they love the most anti-Bush candidate, but if he loses, they'll settle for four more years of Bush? Fucking insane, and terribly irresponsible.


One dude in particular is behaving like a spoiled two-year-old who has been denied his bottle. Not naming names, but this fucker is tetched!
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DisgustedDemocrat Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:17 AM
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4. It was a surprising outcome
I'm happy to see that Kerry and Edwards did so well, although I feel for the Dean and Gephart supporters tonight because it did seem like it was going to be closer that it was, and I appreciate their disappointment.

I'm with you - a democrat won the caucus, and the common goal is to replace Bush in November.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:17 AM
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5. No kidding, it's not the end of the world!
I'm with you -- compared to Bush, every single candidate is a large improvement. But I think after the heat of the primaries is over, people will rally together like we've never seen before.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:19 AM
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6. And there was such a hefty turnout!
:bounce:

BoyOhBoy, I'm bouncing to the conclusion that lots of folks are tired of Bush.
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DisgustedDemocrat Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:24 AM
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7. What were the turnout numbers?
If it's been posted I haven't seen it and have not heard it mentioned on TV yet. Thanks
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:12 AM
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9. At 98% of precincts having reported:
Kerry 38%
Edwards 32%
Dean 18%
Gephardt 11%
Kucinich 1%

Everyone else, zero percent.

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DisgustedDemocrat Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:35 AM
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13. I was looking for how many turned out for the caucus
And I found the answer

About 125K - double the 2000 turnout

45% were first time attendees at a caucus, or first time voters, I'm not sure

Amazing turnout.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:06 AM
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8. Congrats to "Comeback Kerry" !! - I'll be watchin' Ohio next week
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:17 AM
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11. Right now, I'm catching a rerun of Kerry's speech on C-SPAN

He just introduced Max Cleland to the audience! God, that was beautiful!
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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:21 AM
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12. I was gonna vote for the "un-named" democrat...
but I couldn't find it on the ballot. I think the election was rigged!
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:40 AM
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14. Gotta agree
This is DEMOCRACY unfolding before our eyes!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:41 AM
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15. Fuck! For a minute, I though Bush had a shot at it!
*whew*
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 02:08 AM
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20. yeah i am glad the democrat one too.
:)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 12:46 PM
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22. If asswipe wins this year, then in 2008 we might see only Repubs
in the Democratic primary for "the safety of America in this time of peace on 7 fronts."

So who knows?
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:43 AM
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16. Just goes to show...
that there is a movement in this country...people are tired of BushCo and his corporate whoring...

Congrats to the Kerry camp...I'm a Dean supporter...but I'm glad to see that people are out there and doing this to get the evil BFEE out of Washington...

Good Riddens BushCo...

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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:53 AM
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17. I wanted Lobsterman to win
because we need footcare
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:55 AM
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18. im exited too
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 01:56 AM by LastKnight
i too for some reason am feeling extreamly happy about this set of canadates... mabye its just who the opposition is which makes me excited. or maybe its the fact that i turn 18 in a few months and this will be my first election i can vote in... i donno.

-LK
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 03:33 AM
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21. Frankly, I'm thrilled by the caucus results
And not just because I clipped a few friends of mine in betting on the outcome.

The current Republicans brass isolates their best candidates and forces out the vulnerable weaklings, all across the country. Witness the exclusions of Fitzgerald in Illinois senate and Martz in Montana gov for 2004, plus influencing Katherine Harris not to run for Florida senate.

It's the only thing I truly admire admire about Rove and Co., brass balls to pick the best nominee and fund them from the start, eliminating primary bickering and waste of funds. Almost all their handpicked 2002 candidates prevailed.

Meanwhile, us fairminded, process-loyal Democrats eschew party influence and often let the locals isolate the one boob who couldn't win without a 10-point cheat. I would gleefully sign up for 8 years of Howard Dean right now, and certainly admire his loyalists, but every handicapping instinct screams to me that John Edwards is the ticket.

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:01 PM
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23. I thot the speech was great - here's a link to the full text
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"Finally, my friends, we need a Democratic nominee who can stand up to this President eye to eye, toe to toe, face to face and make it clear: We Democrats know how to make America safer.

George Bush has run the most arrogant, inept, reckless and ideological foreign policy in the modern history of our country.

Now George Bush and Karl Rove say that in 2004, they want to run on national security. I can see why. They certainly can’t run on jobs or health care or the environment. Well, as I have said, I know something about aircraft carriers for real.

And if George W. Bush wants to make national security the central issue in this campaign, I have three words for him I know he understands: Bring it on. "

/snip/



(click on graphic above for full text of Iowa spech Jan 19, 2004)

While I remain undecided on exactly who I'd prefer in the WH, as long as it is an anti-war Dem, I will sleep better.

I read some of JK's speeches dating back to before 9-11, and his position has been consistent. On reading some of those speeches carefully, I see that the media(suprise) and other opponents have taken phrases out of context to paint him as inconsistent.

Anyhoo - congrats to Dems, and right now, specifically "Comeback Kerry". :thumbsup:

I don't want to alienate those that support other Democratic candidates, but ANY Dem that can unseat the Texacutioner, and put the rest of the Republican WarMachine on the back bench sits ok with me!
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