C'mon People: some of us want to get married while we are still young and pretty!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

NY Gay Marriage Bill Declared 'Dead On Arrival' In Senate


(Albany, New York) The Assembly passed same-sex marriage legislation Tuesday night, but the state's highest ranking Republican vowed not to allow it to come to a vote in the Senate.

The bill passed the Democratically controlled Assembly 85-61.


http://www.365gay.com/Newscon07/06/062007yorkmar.htm


:cry:

BASTARDS!

[Tyler Durden]

1. One day they will get theirs....

Actually, I've been saying that about rePukes since Ray-gun, so maybe they won't.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. i know.

:(

[Oeditpus Rex]

3. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

It's just utterly beyond me that people think this is wrong.

Pri, sounds like you and a few thousand friends oughta do a road trip to Albany.

:hug:

[RedCappedBandit]

4. I don't think you should refer to repkues and..

use the word "think" in the same sentence.



..After "speaking" to enough of them about this, and many other, subjects, i've come to the conclusion that "thinking" is exactly what they're NOT doing.

[AllegroRondo]

5. Bastards

any chance for a road trip to a state with legal marriage?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. we are thinking of 'eloping' to canada for a wedding.

at the very least we want to get our last names changed to the same name this summer. :)

[BarenakedLady]

6. Damn it!

:grr:

Fuckers

Edited to add: "I do feel threatened. I do feel harmed," said Assemblyman Brian Kolb (R-Canandaigua). "It's a direct challenge to me and how I was brought up."

That's the next town over from me....Blech

[Zuiderelle]

10. He feels HARMED? That's incredible.

[AllegroRondo]

11. harmed how?

are they going to force him to attend the weddings, and bring a tasteful gift?

I never understood that arguement.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. he now has to think in a un-bigoted manner. causing him extreme pain!!!!

[Zuiderelle]

13. He says "It's a direct challenge to me and how I was brought up."

By that argument, everyone in the world is harming me, since no one was brought up the way I was. All non-white families are harming me. All families with a single parent. All families with two working parents. All families that immigrate from other countries. Everyone harms me because they challenge how I was brought up. I mean, really, that makes a lot of sense, right?

:wtf:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. thinking is a direct challenge to him. intellectually lazy fuckers.

[Ellen Forradalom]

42. It's the 'tasteful gift' part that's causing the problem

He lives in mortal fear of being laughed out a gay wedding because he brought a singing-bass plaque for the lucky couple.

[Deep13]

28. Why is that everyone else's problem?

Not my fault he was raised to be a bigotted, provincial asshole.

[xchrom]

8. oh honey -- i've had my vera wang hanging in the closet

longer than you've been alive.

just think how i've helped the economy JUST WAITING!!!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. when they do legalize it, can i borrow your dress?

[xchrom]

44. yes -- and you'll look much better in strapless than i do.

[guitar man]

14. arrrrrrrrgh!!!!

"I do feel threatened. I do feel harmed," said Assemblyman Brian Kolb (R-Canandaigua). "It's a direct challenge to me and how I was brought up."

So this Ass-emblyman wants to enforce "the way he was brought up" as public policy.

Well, I think I have a way to make him happy. Since we a are a nation founded on compromise, here's the proposition:

We keep gay marriage illegal on the condition that he wears a special "dog collar" device that delivers a powerful shock anytime he makes reference to the US as being a "free country". As a matter of fact, just to be sure, we'll just have it shock him anytime the words, freedom, free, liberty or anything else like that comes out of his piehole.

Maybe that way, he won't be a the least bit confused about what it is he is actually supporting.......

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. stupid bigoted republicans.

:cry:

[guitar man]

18. I hear ya

So much for their "smaller, less intrusive" vision of government :eyes:

"Freedom" to them means freedom to live like them. :grr:

[IndianaJones]

17. What an insidious agenda...

I feel threatened. It may lead to the end of my own marriage. :sarcasm:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. this sort of news is so disappointing

:cry:

[IndianaJones]

20. I must admit that my faith in the goodness of humanity is at an all time low...

Unfortunately, most of our fellow humans do little to change that view. The absolute immorality of denying basic rights to a sizable portion of our society is mind numbing. Then again, I guess we've been doing that for all of history...the focus only seems to shift from one group to another.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. welcome to du. you should answer my question thread in the lounge

as it asks about history repeating itself.

[northzax]

23. don't you watch porn and the 700 club?

it's pretty obvious that as soon as we 'allow' gays to marry, your wife is going to take up with another woman, you are going to take up with another man. She will start wearing leather all the time, you will become really interested in interior design! think of the children! we can't take tihs chance!

see, man? you don't know it, but the only thing keeping your marriage together is that the gays can't be married! watch more FOXNews, you'll see.

and welcome...:hi:

[IndianaJones]

29. I live in constant fear of the 'gay agenda'...

I feel that sinister plans are being hatched as we speak.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. ---

:rofl:

yeah, we are trying to get you to match your socks and shoes. :P

[One_Life_To_Give]

21. You will always be pretty Lioness

They may be able to control some pieces of paper. But what is in your hearts and minds is beyond their reach.

[MissMillie]

24. yeah, because it's just downright shameful when the bride is old and crotchety

Sorry, pri....

I'm with you on the marriage equality thing, but I sure don't like your attitude about age.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. i have no attitude about age.

i just want to get married sooner rather than later.

sorry, if i offended you.

my mother married at 40 and was a gorgeous bride.

[MissMillie]

26. just the wording of your post...

I really do believe that you don't hold a prejudice towards age, and I accept your apology. I think the wording of your subject line was unfortunate. It doesn't sound like someone who doesn't have a prejudice against age.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. i said while i am young and pretty, one day we will have marriage

my post was meant to say that i want it now, not later.

the we i am referring to are we and my fiance.

[MissMillie]

30. I would love for you to have legal marriage now

whether you're 20 or 50 or 150 and it doesn't matter to me what either one of you looks like. I'd like for you to have that now.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

32. yeah that was kinda my point.

i want it now. not at some later date.

[Zuiderelle]

33. I know what you meant in your thread title, but I can see MissMillie's point too.

Especially since I'm not so young or pretty as I used to be, and I still cannot marry.

:hi:

[Deep13]

36. As an aging fart myself...

...I would like to be young and pretty. I'm not. I'm not going to pretend no one is or that getting old does not mean, well, getting old. I can absolutely understand why Prianka or anyone else would not want to wait until middle age to do something like this. Also the phrase "young and pretty" means she wants to be both, not that one is required for the other.

To what degree do we have to guess what is offensive? To what degree do we have a duty to avoid it?

Sorry, MissM., I don't mean to rip on you, anyone who lives in my one-time home of Rochdale, MA is okay in my book. My gut feeling is that sensitivity to offense to this degree when none is intended is a form of censorship. (Social, not governmental.)

[MissMillie]

39. to what degree is that?

I told her that I accepted her apology and that I truly believe that she didn't mean anything by it.

However, I don't see any harm in pointing out that the wording was unfortunate.

I get that she wants to get married now. I just don't understand how age and appearance factor into that, and I think it's unfortunate that this is how she chose to articulate her frustration about bigotry. Consciously or not, she made a bigoted statement while arguing against bigotry. That's ironic as hell.

[NMDemDist2]

34. well that sucks, but it's not unexpected. I've been following it on GayUSA's shows

and they figured this is what would happen. Wonder if Spitzer will lean on them at all?

:hug: sorry hon :hug:

[Deep13]

35. The default policy position should always be to let people do what they want.

That's people generally, not legislators who somehow feel qualified to run everyone else's life. In a free society, if there is no objective, demonstrable reason to prohibit something, then the default position should be personal liberty. Apart from folk prejudice and superstition, there is no real policy reason to prohibit gay marriage. What my neighbor does at home has no bearing on what I do. Even if I was philosophically against gay marriage, and I am not, I would still have to conclude that my subjective prejudice is not a reason to prevent it.

Having said all that, the odds of gay marriage being recognized nation-wide any time soon are one in crapdillion. In 2004 in Ohio where gay marriage was banned by statute law, some 3/4 of voters approved a state constitutional ban not only on gay marriage, but civil unions too. That means roughly half of the Kerry voters also supported the ban. People have viseral reactions to challenging cultural norms that have nothing to do with reasonable policy. That's why racial civil rights took so damn long. I really don't know the answer to this, but if it won't pass in NY, then there is not much hope for it doing well in the Midwest.

I'm getting out of local party politics to focus on what might be the basis for a lot of problems. That is getting religion out of governance. If people get the idea into their heads that religious ideas have no place in public policy, then this and other things will be less problematic.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. having gay marriage recognized nation wide is exaclty as you said

one in a crapbillion!

sigh!

[bigwillq]

38. That stinks.

Hopefully one day that can be a reality.

Just move to CT, at least you can get a civil union here.

[KamaAina]

41. NJ is closer

Just move to CT, at least you can get a civil union here.

As all Lounge Lizards must know by now, the newest star in the civil unions firmament is New Jersey, a mere ten-minute ride on PATH from NYC.

[bigwillq]

43. That is true.

I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. :)

[KamaAina]

40. I need to get married right away

so that my new, hetero marriage can be devalued by "those gays", and I can also "feel harmed". Any takers?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: