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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 03:59 PM
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Sicko the movie. Who has seen it???
I watched it yesterday it made me angry it made me misty eyed and it made me think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJyyyRYbSk
See it if you can.
When Moore took several Americans who couldn't get help in America including three 911 rescue workers to Cuba and they actually were seen and treated for free...It really made me angry.
One lady(a 9/11 rescue worker)who paid 120 bucks for medicine in the good ol USA received the same medicine for 5 cents in Cuba.
:wtf: :mad:
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 04:04 PM
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1. Why do you hate America so much???
:hi: Sup homey! I haven't seen it yet, but I do plan to. I just need to carve out some time between baby feedings, work, school, etc. It's funny because we were talking about it the other day at work, and someone commented, "Great. Michael Moore. Another movie about George Bush." It struck me just how appropriate that title would be for a movie about GW.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 04:11 PM
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2. cuz i'm a terrorist
:silly:
Except i think killing people is wrong either through dropping bombs on them or by refusing to help them when you have the means to.
:hi:
The problem is far bigger than the idiot in chief.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 04:16 PM
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4. It wasn't a movie about Bush
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 04:16 PM by lizziegrace
so much as it's a movie about corporate greed, rewarding those who deny care and how our elected officials have all been bought. Yes, Hillary has received the second largest insurance lobby contribution. The largest went to a Republican. How times have changed.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 04:13 PM
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3. I saw it last night * possible spoilers* !
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 04:13 PM by lizziegrace
they had a sneak preview in Columbus. Others were laughing at the end about how witty and brilliant Moore was. HELLO?? This is a tragedy! I had to fight back the tears through most of the movie.

And you know what else hurt? Calling my daughter and telling her that if she wants a life that can truly be hers and not worry about losing everything you've ever worked for if you have a catastrophic illness, plan on moving to the UK, France or Canada and build your life there. There is no excuse for a couple who'd worked hard their entire lives and ended up in their daughter's basement bedroom after they lost EVERYTHING to his heart attacks and her cancer.

The few bright spots? The 9/11 workers being treated and hearing the British gentleman say if you can find money to have a war, you can find money to provide basic healthcare for your people. It's that simple. Oh, and hook-a-canuk.com if you wanted to marry a Canadian for health benefits. ;)

:(
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:54 PM
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10. Yeah
:hug:
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 04:17 PM
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5. I've seen it...
...I got an *ahem* Less than legal copy of it.*ahem* It pissed me off; especially about the 9/11 workers. Their health care should be free, no questions asked. :grr: I think it's going to be a hit.

My husband uses 2 different inhalers for his condition. Their combined cost? 250 dollars. Guess how often he gets his inhalers refilled...
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:47 PM
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8. I saw it the same way
:hide:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 05:01 PM
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6. I saw it.
It made me angry too. And very sad. I am saddened by the way our 'government' officials have sold us down the river. It's all about the money and innocent people die because of it. The people who weild power over us have complete power. The power of life and death.

See it and weep.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 05:09 PM
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7. Ahhh, what do you want, free health care?
I mean really...

Those Cubans, what do they know about health care?

:sarcasm:

I don't think free is the answer, but we spend more per person on health care in this country than any other country in the world and we get less per person for our money than any other country in the world.

So much for the "market" equalizing things and giving us affordable and accessible health care.

It's time for an enema for our health care system and it ain't gonna be pretty, but it is held together with band aids as it is and there are fixtures of that system that are on the verge of collapse, while other parts of it are making out like bandits.

It doesn't work.

Haven't seen the movie yet but plan to.

:grr:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:53 PM
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9. Free is the answer actually
Edited on Sun Jun-24-07 07:06 PM by GoPsUx
Not free as we pay nothing but free as in our tax dollars are spent more wisely.
We can drop a $575000 on a tomahawk missle http://navysite.de/weapons/tomahawk.htm
But we turn our own citizens away from desperatly needed Healthcare because Insurance doesn't want to pay for it.
:mad:
It works in France, England,Canada ,and even Cuba.
It can work here.
See the movie it may change your opinion.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:02 PM
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14. well
i can see how an immediate snap to full coverage health care could cause major problems for the health care industry (meaning the firing of nurses, doctors, etc). I would rather see a slow slide to it, over 10-15 years
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:12 PM
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15. I think just restructuring the healthcare system would work
In the movie they showed a doctor in France who lives in a 1 million dollar home Makes 200,000 a year and drives a nice Audi.
Yet he never has to worry about rather his Patients can pay.As a matter of fact the healthier his patients are the more money he makes.
I am not saying do it tomorrow but 15 years is way to long.I would feel better over 5 years or even less.
I believe it can be done without the loss of a single healthcare providers job.
Now the Insurance industry will go belly up..For some reason that doesn't bother me.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:18 PM
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17. I agree. It must happen now.
I think there will ultimately be more jobs for healthcare providers since everyone will be able to get the care they need. We'll need more doctors, nurses, dentists, physical therapists, Xray techs, etc.
True..the health insurance companies will suffer a major blow..but many also provide life and car insurance. That won't go away.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:25 PM
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18. I think we probably agree
the idea I espoused is essentially what you are talking about

we spend more on health care and get less from our bucks than any other country

for much less than we spend on our personal health insurance, or employers spend on it, we could cover everyone in this country easily enough.

Yes weapons are insanely expensive and we are ripped off badly by them.

I want to see the movie and I am totally for universal health care.

:hi:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:29 PM
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19. I am sure we do
:hi:
I was answering your reply for the lurkers who may stumble upon it.
Your comment gave me means to post my point of view on the subject..Thank you :)
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:32 PM
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20. ah, the lurkers
:yoiks:

I forget that they are here... :hide:


:hi:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:54 PM
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11. DVD quality download here
http://thousandrobots.com/blog/files/sicko.gvi

You'll need the Google vid player to view it.

I watched it last night. I was sad and angry (and thankful to Moore) at the same time.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:58 PM
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12. Ain't Moore just a Dick
:sarcasm: how dare him.
I thought it was fair and unbiased.
And people should watch it through any means they can.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:00 PM
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13. I was lucky enough to attend the DC premiere last week.
Michael Moore spoke to the audience. Kucinich, Conyers and others were there. I only wish the theatre was full of repugs. I still can't stop thinking about what a mess we've made of our health care system.
Watching the movie, I kept thinking "what would it feel like to never have to worry about the cost of of a dr. visit, a dental visit, a prescription, an operation..again?" I can't even imagine it. Profound movie!
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:18 PM
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16. I would have loved to have been there
It is almost criminal the way we treat our sick here.
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