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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:20 PM
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Hanging tough in South Lake Tahoe!
I was up for the week doing some work on my Mom's house. We went to the movies yesterday and saw the first plume of smoke coming back home to the Y. It looked a little close to the house and we couldn't;t get any information on the local radio, so we drove over to the Upper Truckee neighborhood to see what was up. We get there and the mountain behind the last row of houses is on fire -- bad.

Knowing that Tahoe has not had a significant burn in decades and the snow pack was squat this year, my gut told me we had to keep an eye on this.

We went back to her house a mile or so away but we were still unable to get any info that could let us track the fire to see if it was going to effect us. Pissed of, I loaded us in the car and headed back towards Sawmill Road where we could watch the fire's progress.

We moved back away from the fire (keeping a very healthy distance) at least three times before I realized it was heading into town and that Mom's house was in its path. It was weird, we didn't want to overreact by packing up unnecessarily, but I remember vividly the Oakland Hills fire, and I didn't want to wait until the last minute to react. So we picked up the fur babies and hightailed it back to Sawmill to keep watch.

The fire itself was incredible. Huge plumes, turning the sun blood red, whipping the wind up something fierce. It was almost 45 minutes before we saw a real fire presence -- trucks were coming in from all over. We knew it was serious when we stared seeing engines and fire/rescue crews from North Shore and Carson City (both easily a half hour away). And it was well over an hour and a half before we saw the first air support, which was incredibly frustrating because the terrain demanded this be boots on the ground with massive air attacks. We finally got two helicopters with water buckets and a chemical tanker hitting the blaze on our side of the hill. Those three aircraft pounded the crap out of the leading edge of the blaze, with the copters making trip after trip to the lake to refill. The scene was pretty chaotic, with emergency vehicles, tourists, locals, and media all stopping along the road to watch the blaze.

As the fire approached the local high school (three long blocks from my Mom's house) we got word from someone on the street that the area was under mandatory evacuation, so we took a quick trip back to the house to check on our neighbors. Hours later and there was STILL absolutely ZERO information on the radio or TV for anyone to know just how bad and how close the fire was. I started banging on doors to let folks now how close it was, and we drove around as long as we dare telling everyone we saw to was time to adios. From the highway we took one last look at the fire, watching as the fire department created the line they were going to defend. Another three blocks and the fire would be in Tahoe proper and it would be an even bigger disaster.

The evacuation center gave us the name of a local vet who was taking in pets to board for the duration of the fire, and we also got info on local hotels that were giving away free rooms for those who had to be evacuated. Tahoe is a very small town or mostly working class folks and retirees, so Mom found friends at the center who had already lost their homes. The community was coming together beautifully to help the victims and evacuees, but everyone was railing against the lack of a notification system.

We spent the rest of the afternoon further down the road in Tahoe, watching the fire and wondering if Mom had a home left. A friend who lived out by the local golf course offered us rooms, so we finally landed there around 8:00pm. Wendy's house has a wall of windows looking out over the course and the mountain range, and we sat and watched as the range erupted into enormous flames. On this side of the fire, there were two more helicopters with buckets -- but this time they were pulling water from the course's pond, just 40 feet or so from the back deck. That was one fucking surreal hour we spent, with the range on fire and copters buzzing the house every five minutes. Once dark, the drops had to stop for the night and the fire was left to burn. At one point I walked out onto the course to fully take in what was happening -- in the dark, three coyotes running from the fire passed within a few feet of me.

Last night was a long one, with just a few hours sleep. As soon as it was light enough, Mom and I hopped into the car to see if our house was still standing. The whole valley was covered in smoke, making it hard to see and breath. As we got closer and closer to the Y, we quickly realized that the fire fighters had held the line at the high school and saved our neighborhood. We turned right onto her street and saw the yellow and white cabin Bay Area DUers had painted a few summers ago, sooty and covered with ash, but still in one piece. It was a happy moment.

We drove the few blocks to the high school where we got to see just how close the fire had come -- just a few feet from the edge of the practice field in the rear of the school was the scorched edge of the fire had come to. The entire ridge behind the school was still smoldering something fierce, but there was at least four engines there, keeping an eye for any flare ups.

We are still under evacuation orders and will probably not be let back into the house until tomorrow, but we are safe, the house is safe, and no one has been injured or killed so far because of the fire. Thank the gods.

I will try to download the pictures I took -- it really was something to see and experience.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:24 PM
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1. That's good news.
My eldest daughter is camping south of Tahoe and we haven't heard from her yet. I'm not terribly worried, but I'm still hoping for a phone call.

Glad you home is still in one piece, I know the stress of just not knowing after leaving during a hurricane.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 05:50 PM
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3. I hope you hear from her soon...
I can't imagine having been out camping when this was all happening. At least we had a car to hop in and escape with. :(
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:34 PM
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17. Finally heard from her.
She is fine, the moved down by Kirkwood. I'll sleep easier tonight now. Thanks.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:42 AM
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24. I am really glad to hear that...
The only thing worse that being in something like that, is having a loved one in that situation and not knowing if they are okay. In a way, I think it's worse.

When the Loma Prieta earthquake hit, my sister and I were in SF while my Mom and several close friends of mine were on the East Coast. They couldn't get a hold of us, and all they had to go by were the pictures they were seeing on the news -- which made it look like the entire city was either in flames or knocked to the ground. I think it was much harder on them than us.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 02:24 PM
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2. I'm glad to hear that everyone is safe
And that your mom's house is okay. I'm afraid this is going to be a bad year for fires - it's so dry.

Stay safe. :hi:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 05:51 PM
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4. Thanks!
It it ridiculously dry up here -- something like 30+% of annual snowpack. I see lots of fires and some old fashioned water rationing coming up. :(
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:00 PM
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5. Glad to hear everyone is ok!
I look forward to seeing your pictures...
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:03 PM
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6. I love Tahoe, so glad you are safe and the house survived
those poor people who lost their homes :cry:

keep safe
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:13 PM
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10. I know...
the area that got hit the hardest are NOT full of "rich vacation homes" but houses working class locals who have lived here a long time. Also retirees on fixed incomes. :( The Red Cross is already here, the insurance agencies, communication companies, and other support groups.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:05 PM
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7. Glad to hear you're doing ok!
I have an uncle who lives in Meyers...so far he's fine, but the house is in danger (or at least it was this morning). Good luck!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:15 PM
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11. I was surprised that outer Meyers...
took such a hit. All of the main buildings are intact, it appears the fire crossed Hi. 50 around Upper Truckee. I hope your Uncle is riding this out safely!
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:25 PM
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15. Yikes...
It's all really close to his house. :scared:

I got an email from my dad this morning saying that my uncle is safe and the house was still there at that point, but I haven't heard anything since, so I'm not sure now.

I also have a friend who's a Tahoe firefighter, so I'm sure he's BUSY!

Best of luck to all of you!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:08 PM
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8. Here are the pix...
The fire from around 1/2 a mile from the house, when it really started to get going:




Another from further down the road, when the fire really started to pick up steam:




The view from the backyard:




Out at the home on the gold course we evacuated to:




One of the ridges on fire:




The homestead in all its unscorched glory:




We have been allowed to return home -- the evacuation is now voluntary. The ridge behind the house is still smoking in places and on fire, heading north. There are nonstop copters hitting the line with water. I think it's going to be another l-o-n-g night. :)
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:56 AM
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19. How scary
Amazing pictures.

:hug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:12 PM
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9. My thoughts and prayers are with you...
..and all the residents of that area.

May I ask you something? The news reports said helicopters could not be brought in at first because of 35 mph winds. Do you think that was true? Just curious.

Stay safe! You did the right thing by taking it seriously. Nature can have a mind of its own...especially with the drought situation up there.

Too bad we can't just ship this rain, from N. Texas, to you!!!

:hug:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:21 PM
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13. I can't honestly say why...
they did not fly when the fire first started. It was windy, especially near the fire, but it honestly didn't seem any windier than a blustery day in SF. :shrug: It just seemed incredibly odd to all of us who were watching that we were seeing no air support, especially when it was so important to the task. There is a town meeting tonight that we are going to -- I am sure that is one of MANY issues that are going to be brought up by cranky residents.

My sister lives in N. Texas and her backyard is a virtual swimming pond from all the rain! Hope you guys dry out -- hope we good and wet. :hi:
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:20 PM
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12. Thank you for sharing
your story and your pictures. I'm glad for your good outcome.

I lived in Tahoe for a mere 2 months in the early 70s. I haven't been back since but one of these days I hope to go. I remember floating down the Truckee River. That was fun.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:24 PM
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14. There really is nothing like summer...
in Lake Tahoe. :) I spent one spring and summer up here and it was absolutely heavenly. Beautiful blue skies every day, the smell of the pine trees, the starry nights.

If it weren't for those damned winters I could actually live up here! :D Hope you find your way here again.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 06:31 PM
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16. Ahhhhh, summer in Tahoe.
I live in the desert and I want to see and smell those Tahoe pines. The casinos I can do without but I want to see Emerald Bay again!
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thingsarelookingup Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:52 AM
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18. Tahoe is a place like no other
We make the trek to Tahoe each August and set up tents at Camp Richardson which is near where the fire is burning. We have so many wonderful memories of this special place but for this former chick from the sticks who now endures crazy city life, my favorite Tahoe activity is to just sit alone and listen to the wind rustle through the branches while I breathe...deeply.

Although it was 4 or 5 years ago, I'll never forget the sudden summer rain sent us scrambling into our tent to read and chat. The smell of the damp earth and the gentle patter of the rain falling on the tent was something that I'll not forget or how the occasional crack of lightning or boom of thunder seemed so very close. It brought this busy and noisy family of six to a complete halt - it was wonderful.

My thoughts are with the residents of this beautiful place and the firefighters who struggle to preserve it.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:11 AM
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28. Summer thunderstorms!
I have always loved those up in Tahoe -- especially when the thunder starts bouncing off the mountains. :) When I go to visit Mom, most of the free time is spent just sitting on the deck, watching the jays, chipmonks, and squirrels at the feeder. Very restful to the spirit. We have a family of chickadees in the little birdhouse attached to her back door. Mom and Dad have been doting parents, and it has been a pleasure to watch and listen to them every day. Honestly, when we were told to evacuate Sunday night, I almost thought of ripping the birdhouse off the wall and taking them with us for the night! :)

I saw on the news that the fire is in serious danger of crossing 89 and that Camp Richardson is in the new danger zone. :(
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:47 AM
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25. Emerald Bay is really amazing...
I think it's the most beautiful spot on the whole Lake. I finally made the trek down to Vikingsholm -- the little lodge on the shore of Emerald Bay -- and it was absolutely delightful. A real Scandinavian building with a sod roof and wonderful toll (sp?) painting. A must see.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:59 AM
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20. Thanks for checking in.
My folks met and got married up in South Lake. 'Round '79 they moved down here for work and never left, but my Mom still regrets not staying up there or heading back to the East Bay, where she's from.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:42 AM
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21. Damn! Now THAT'S a story!! Sorry you had to go through all of that,

but I'm glad the house is saved.

What struck me about the beautiful pine forest that envelops Tahoe, were the enormous number of dead or dying Ponderosa pines, due to disease. There was a real problem there, just waiting to happen. And as you mentioned, with the drought and unusually light snow season, the conditions were ripe for a tragedy.

What a beautiful area. I have visited numerous times, and, if able to afford, have wanted to live there. It really breaks my heart to see all of this. Hope everything turns out okay for your family. I know that you are touched emotionally for others you know who haven't been as lucky in all of this. My thoughts are with you.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:32 AM
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29. The Ponderosas are non-native...
which is part of the problem with the whole Tahoe Basin. During the Silver Rush in Nevada, the entire area with literally clear cut for lumber to build the mines -- the pictures of a naked Tahoe are just wild. When they went to replant the area, they used a non-native pine that was quicker growing (if I remember correctly). Because it is not native, the Ponderosas are more prone to disease and pests, and become huge fire hazards.

The build-up of downed trees, pinecones, pine needles, and brush like manzanita on the basin floor is a huge problem. One one hand, they want residents to start keeping pine needles on any section of ground that has no vegetation to help with the lake clarity, but dry pine needles all around your house creates a fire hazzard. But finding a ground cover that will live up there and requires little watering is also a challenge. The balance to keep the lake, the forest, adn the residents healthy is a very delicate one.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:03 AM
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22. Lived 5 years in Carson City and 15 in Reno
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:21 AM by Whoa_Nelly
I know the area where the Y is, where Meyers is, and all the area you are talking about here.
(For those who don't know, the "Y" is a split in the roads at South Lake Tahoe where one road turns more south and the other goes around the rest of the lake.)

Have seen some horrible fires in the Sierras over the years, and this latest one is extremely bad. Have watched in horror and awe as pinion and ponderosa trees suddenly explode one after another in the tornado-like maelstorm of fire.

This fire is heartbreaking for all those who have lost their homes. I haven't read the most recent update on it, but hope the winds are cooperating and that there is a greater percentage of containment happening.

Here'as an article and a slideshow for those who want to know more:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fire27jun27,0,1072673.story?coll=la-home-local

Am glad you and your mom are safe, HHNF :hug: :hug: :hug:

Thanks so much for posting/updating.

Will be looking for your pics.

Keep on keepin' safe! :pals:


on edit:
A few photos from the above posted news article--there are many more

Fire so hot there were molten streams from this vehicle


The bravest of the brave


Heartbreaking--A woman and her children see their destroyed home :cry:
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:06 AM
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23. I just leaarned about the fire near you
when I logged on and immediately thought of your mom and other friends. (I'm travelling.) I'm thankful you are both OK and that the cabin survived. Living in the fire zone all my life, I'm constantly worrying about a fire. You experienced what I dread.

I also hope your health is better. Let's get together soon.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:01 AM
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26. HHNF - You're being paged in GD
Edited on Wed Jun-27-07 11:02 AM by seemunkee
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:02 AM
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27. Keep us posted
There is a thread in GD asking about you...
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