Yet another Friday night at home and I wonder if I'm growing up.

[crim son]

It's either that, or the fact that Maineiac has a date. The latter, probably. Sigh. Jes' bitchin'.

[SPKrazy]

1. grown up!

:rofl:


:pals:

:D

[crim son]

2. Let me ask you something.

Do you think there's a problem in the U.S. with the "feminization" of our men? Be honest now...

[SPKrazy]

28. I don't know if it is just the U.S.

I think it is deeper than "feminization" I think that our ancestors had it right in terms of dealing with archetypal images and rituals for becoming men. What do men typically pass on to their male offspring today? Too often it is fear, loathing of other men, the need for the symbolic mother, and if that means that men are "feminized" (hadn't thought of it in those terms) then they might be.

I think that too often men are absent (not physically as much as emotionally) from their son's lives and their is no coming of age ritual. (Oh what, some dad buys his son a prostitute? :eyes: Or gets him drunk? :eyes: I'm talking about passing on wisdom, a feeling of becoming a man)

Often boys have no men in their lives, which can be remedied through things like boys clubs, or scouts, but then, from my own personal experience there, one has to be aware that not all men who go into those things are there to "help" boys, some are there to hurt them. I was hurt there by a scoutmaster. That added to the problems that go with trying to separate and individuate as a man.

:shrug:

[crim son]

34. Wow. An answer that makes sense.

Jeebus, I need to - think this through.

You are so intelligent and perhaps you underestimate the degree to which you have developed into the man/person you imagined you could be. Just my two cents'.

[SPKrazy]

38. Thanks!

I do value your .02 as good as gold friend! :hug:

[graywarrior]

3. There are not grown ups here so forget that little fantasy

[crim son]

4. Well shit, I know that.

Now. :P

[graywarrior]

5. Be proud of that fact.

*snort*

We are so good at it.

[crim son]

6. You read that too, eh?

Years of practice.

[graywarrior]

9. Practice on top of being "naturals" at it.

[Omphaloskepsis]

7. I'm a 29 year old male and I am babysitting tonight..

Some hectic shit is going down at my sisters house tonight and she needed me to watch the twins.

[crim son]

10. You do a fair amount of babysitting which means

you are a good guy. Hugs to you, Omphalo :hug:

[Omphaloskepsis]

13. But tonight is bad babysitting, I'm very stressed out.

Is it cool if I send you a PM.. I just need to think loudly and it would be nice if someone would listen. Today has been insane and it isn't even close to coming to a conclusion.

[crim son]

15. Of course. I'm sorry for the delay but I was on myspace.

I'd be honored.

[RetroLounge]

8. I'm home with the kids watching Over The Hedge

yeah. grown up shit...

RL

[crim son]

11. I've done kiddie movie duty for the last couple of days.

The boys are at their fathers' place; my daughter is upstairs thinking I don't know she's talking on her cellphone.

I saw the recent pic of the kids; Retroboy has a haircut. Damn but they're cute (or haven't I mentioned it? :P )

[RetroLounge]

12. Yeah. I picked him up and his hair was gone.

Guess I have no input anymore these days...

And they are cute, and they know it. GAH! Can I skip the teen years?

RL

[seemunkee]

14. Nope, you must suffer like the rest of us

[RetroLounge]

16. Damn.

Well, there's always boarding school...

RL

[seemunkee]

22. A closet with a lock on it is a cheaper alternative

[crim son]

18. No my dear. If I must go through them, then you must too.

It's pretty scary. Scarier than I expected, considering that I did almost every horrible thing imaginable as a young person.

As for no input, you may have missed the boat on the hair. It's what your children learn by being with you that's important, and that will last. Don't you worry about that.

[RetroLounge]

20. ...

:hug:

RL

[mainegreen]

17. Bah. We're all home.

I however am about to smoke a doobie.

How's the thing with the guy going?
You've been scarce around here lately it seems!

[crim son]

19. At least I don't have fleas!

Pass the smoke, wouldja?

The guy. He's "punishing" me tonight for speaking my mind; that is, for telling him that I expect a person of intelligence to be willing to think about ideas both old and new, and adjust to current facts. It didn't go over well. V. repuke, was my immediate thought. I can't tell if we're doomed because of preconceptions, or doomed because it's the nature of the republican to resent being forced to think. I'm expecting an accusatory email before the night is out.

I know. Y'all keep telling me so. The thing is, he keeps telling me one thing, and then doing another. If/when this fails, no more republicans, as the Deity is my witness. And thanks, mainegreen, for asking!

[mainegreen]

27. Well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Life was never meant to be lived safely.


Here:
Just don't bogart it!

[crim son]

30. No indeed!

Heheh.

[Guava Jelly]

21. You sure look like a grown up

And a right sexy one ;)

[crim son]

24. Oh, I needed that tonight.

Even from a mendacious flatterer like yourself. :P :loveya:

[Guava Jelly]

29. And you used a big word on me :o)

I will always be here to flatter and cheer you up :loveya:

[crim son]

31. I know it sweetpea.

And I'm grateful.

[Inchworm]

23. I'm fighting uphill to grow up

Ok, so I got a late start :P

At least I wear pants when I go out now! That is a step in the right direction. :rofl:

:hug:

[crim son]

25. How recent is the pants innovation?

And have you any pics to document the period before that? :P

[Inchworm]

26. Well no pics ...

But I do have a few stories...

Like 1/2 way to the beer store in my boxers for one. :D

:hide:

[crim son]

32. Nuh uh.

That's like the dream we've probably all had where we go to school/work without wearing underwear. Except that's all you were wearing! :rofl:

[Inchworm]

36. yup- more than once on that too

:rofl:

There are more "growing" stories, but I'm a lil embarassed atm. Let these beers do their magic first. :P

:hide:

[lost-in-nj]

33. ....

:hi: :hi: :hug: :hug:
I am home tonight
alot of crap dumped in my lap tonight

BUT I DON"T CARE!!!!!!



:evilgrin:

lost

[crim son]

35. That's the attitude I like and am emulating!

Good for you, lost. Because the shit will fall no matter how you deal with it. Yes? Yes!!!!

[LeftyFingerPop]

37. God is home too, respecting you.

[SPKrazy]

39. hey, the gawdess

loves crimmie more than me or you! i tolla you so last night.

it is a fact

but yes, she is home and she respects her, and you, and me, just loves crimmie more.

:shrug:


I know this for a fact

;)