Ooh, ooh! A Harry Potter revelation!! (May be spoilers, but mostly guessing!)

[hyphenate]

I was just thinking about the 7th book tonight and was remembering something about 5, out this weekend. (Actually Wednesday?)

Harry might not be the fulfillment of the prophecy, anyway!! If people recall, the prophecy had two possibles--Harry, and Neville Longbottom.

In the 5th book, it was also shown how both of Neville's parents were in the equivalent of the sanitarium (I can't recall the name right now) because of their fighting against the Dementors with Voldemort. IIRC, they were both Aurors.

And Trelawney's only accurate prophecy was ambiguous enough that it was not 100% clear that it was Harry.

Now, thinking of that, I've been imagining all along that the "good" guy who was going to get killed off was Hagrid, because he's always been one of JK's favorite characters, but what if.....? it's Neville? It would make sense, because when the prophecy is fulfilled, Neville might die at the same time, or die in combat. Just a thought.

That's all--you may return to your usual nonsense and other tomfoolery. :)

[XemaSab]

1. Rowling has said that the prophecy refers in no way to Neville

:P

[PoconoPragmatist]

2. OK....Here's The Straight Dope

I'm a big Harry Potter fan, and read all the books loads of times.

Neville and Harry both COULD have been the subject of Trelawney's prediction...however, Voldemort himself CHOSE Harry...chose to believe it meant Harry...and therefore made that so. This is explained by Dumbledore in the fifth book. So the propechy does not, in any way, refer to Neville.

Incidentally, the sanatorium name is St. Mungo's.

Now...this is what I think, for the seventh book...just reading the tea leaves a bit here, I might be totally blowing smoke out my bee-hind, but I'm guessing here.

A. It is possible JK Rowling may kill off Harry at the end of the seventh, and supposedly final, book...so that no one may follow her work. This would also be a fulfillment of the prophecy "neither can live while the other does..."


B. I think Ron and Hermione are going to get together and be a married couple. I think Harry just might...too, but I think Harry will end up with Luna Lovegood. The two of them are, in a way, made for each other, both of them being someowhat outcasts in their own way.

C. I believe Draco Malfoy and Snape will both be killed. Likewise, I also think one other on the good side will be killed or die...perhaps McGonagall.

D. This also may not end up being the last book in the series, either...because Harry hints at the end of the sixth book that he is not returning to Hogwarts at all for the seventh year. Perhaps he ends up going back later, maybe not. But I do find that bit rather interesting. But...I also believe Harry won't even bother to stop in on the Dursleys anymore.

[JoDog]

3. I read yesterday

(and I'm sorry, I can't find the link) that Rowling is now taking a "never say never" attitude about writing another book set in the Harry Potter world. But she does consider the current story to be finished in the 7th book. That doesn't mean that she couldn't start a new saga, or focus on different characters.

Neville is one of my favorite secondary characters in the series, and I hope he gets a little more to do in book 7 than he did in "Half-Blood Prince". And I really hope nothing happens to Hagrid. I have a friend who is the Hagrid "type": huge, with a bushy beard and hair, and a loud booming voice. To top it all off, he is a Wiccan and practices magic. We went to a release party for HBP, and he wore a wizarding robe. Shortly before midnight, a little girl in a witch costume, eyes as big as saucers, walked up to him and asked very quietly and shyly, "Hagrid?" He played right along, adopting a British accent, shaking her hand and asking her what she thought was going to happen in the book. I sometimes wonder about that little girl, who probably still believes that she met the real Hagrid, right here in Illinois!

[NashVegas]

4. JKR Quote: "I think that Harry's story ..."

comes to quite a clear end in book seven. But I have always said that I wouldn't say never. I can't say I will never write another book about that world, just because I think, 'What do I know, in 10 years' time I might want to return to it.' But I think it is unlikely."

Yesterday, I didn't think there was any possible way she'd kill off Harry. But that quote's gotta make ya wonder.

[JoDog]

10. Remember, the British attitude

about serial entertainment is different from the American one. In Britain, it's not usual to have a TV season (called a "series" over there) to tell a complete story arc--beginning, middle and end--rather than stretch storylines over multiple seasons. If the show has multiple seasons (or a book has multiple installments) future storylines may build on the previous ones, but not necessarily use all the characters from the original.

Meanwhile, in the US, we expect storylines and groups of characters to be used throughout a show or book saga, no matter how long it lasts.

For instance, in the new Doctor Who (made in Britian), each of the 3 seasons so far had an overarching theme, which is completed at the end of the season. A new one comes in with the new season. Also, at the end of season 2, a couple of characters left the narrative--they didn't die, they just left the story.

The story of Harry vs. Voldemort may be done in book 7, but he may survive, and the character still may not be used in any subsequent stories. And that would make perfect sense in the British sci-fi/fantasy tradition. Later stories could explore other characters that are connected to Harry, or but a new group of students in Hogwarts.

I haven't given up on Harry kicking Voldemort's butt and living to tell about it yet!

[AwakeAtLast]

5. Welcome to DU!

This is a great site, enjoy your stay!

If you've found the Lounge already, you must know a bit about DU.

I've read speculation that Harry could be a horcrux. I actually think that is possible. What do you think?

:hi:

[xmas74]

7. And I read somewhere else

w/ HBP that Rowling stated that no person can be a horcrux.

[AwakeAtLast]

8. Ooohh

Man, that would have been interesting.

I think the speculation is almost as much fun as reading the books! :D

[xmas74]

9. It was the big talk when the book came out that

Harry was one but she said that it cannot happen.

[JoDog]

11. What about the scar?

Harry may not be a horcrux in himself, but what about just his scar?

[xmas74]

13. She said it because of the comments about the scar.

At the time she said that nothing that is human or part of a human (such as a scar) could be a horcrux.

[deadparrot]

15. A Blues fan!

Sorry, random. Just had to say hi.

:hi:

[xmas74]

20. It's all good.

Just waiting for KC to get their own team.

[deadparrot]

21. Yeah, I heard they were close to getting the Preds,

but then I heard that a company in Nashville was considering purchasing the team. Hope you get your wish soon, though. :)

[PoconoPragmatist]

17. Thanks

Now THAT is one heck of an interesting idea....and might even be possible...I never even thought of it.

But here's the thing....there are seven Horcruxes, right??

Horcrux #1 - Within Lord Voldemort.
Horcrux #2 - Tom Riddle's Diary from book #2.
Horcrux #3 - The locket belonging to Voldemort's mother.
Horcrux #4 - Helga Hufflepuff's cup
Horcrux #5 - Something from Salazar Slytherin
Horcrux #6 - Something from Rowena Ravenclaw
Horcrux #7 - Something from Godric Gryffindor

So, i'm not really sure how that works out...but it is an interesting idea. Thanks for the welcome.

[xmas74]

6. But it was also said that

Voldemort picked who he though was the biggest threat-the half blood Harry. Because Voldemort chose the prophesy was completed.

[JoDog]

12. A Clue?

http://www.syfyportal.com/news423874.html

"Filmmakers originally cut a character featured in the fifth book of the series, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," for the upcoming movie, but the renowned author said to put that character back, said David Heyman, producer of the Harry Potter movies.

"There was a character we had cut out, and we had discussed that amongst ourselves," Heyman told SciFi Wire. "And then Jo read the draft and she said, 'You know, I wouldn't do that if I were you. Or you can, but if you get to make the seventh film, you'll be tied in knots and it will cause you some difficulties.' So she made sure that that character" survived.

When asked which character was originally cut in the upcoming film, Heyman stated "I'm not going to say."

Sooo...a character (probably a re-occuring one) whose part was considered unessential to the plot for the 5th film is going to figure prominently in book 7. So prominently, that Rowling recommened that character be included in the movie to save everyone from a headache later on.

Keep your eyes peeled! If you see a character that you know survives at least to the end of HBP getting noticibly short shrift in the final edit, that may be a clue as to at least who's going to be a big player in "Deathly Hallows"!

[hyphenate]

14. I read someplace

that the character of Peter Pettigrew will feature quite a bit. I don't know how, but it might be of importance.

Also, we can't discount some other characters introduced, or who have taken a backseat to the action in all the books so far, like Percy Weasley or Petunia Dursley. Remember in 5, Petunia is more involved than we ever thought she was. And of course, in #6, Sirius's brother is another character that might figure quite a bit.

And of course, if at least one happy ending is coming, perhaps it is Neville's parents recuperating.

[JoDog]

16. I'm betting on Petunia right now

I've heard speculation that Petunia Dursley (and her relationship with Lily Potter) comes more into play in "Deathly Hallows". Which would make sense, considering that in the closing paragraphs of HBP, Harry was planning out his immediate future with trips to the Dursleys and his parents' house. I predict that Harry's going to have to learn a lot about the days leading up to his parents' deaths, and the days after, and use that knowledge against Voldemort. I can also see how the story adaptator would be tempted avoid spending a lot of time at the Dursley house, and get straight to Harry's conflict with the dementors in muggle England.

It also could be Arabella Figg, the squib neighbor of the Dursleys. While she is a fairly pivotal character in the first chapters of Order of the Pheonix, I can see how she could have been written around. She kind of acted as Dumbledore's eyes and ears during Harry's early years and was considered a member of the Order--but is it possible she is working for both sides?

[xmas74]

26. Arabella Figg is my bet.

She seems like the type of character that would be written out of a movie script, yet her short part in the book could lead to much more. I'd bet she has a very interesting backstory.

[PoconoPragmatist]

18. My Guess Is Luna Lovegood.

n/t - see my original post to see where I think Luna is going to be important for Book Seven.

[JoDog]

19. Pocono, have you checked out

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#book7

This part of the Leaky Cauldron website has a list of all the things that should happen in Deathly Hallows based on the timelines Rowling has established. It also features a run down of things Rowling has said will be in the books but haven't popped up yet--meaning that they may be in book 7. Look in the area labeled "Book FAQ".

Some highlights:

We'll hear about Dumbledore's other letters to Petunia.
We will discover what Dudley saw when the Dementor approached in book five
A non-magical character will perform magic in "desperate circumstances."
A huge piece of information is coming about Lily Potter.

There's also a list of debunked rumors.

I love Luna too, but I'm kinda hoping that she and Neville end up together.

[PoconoPragmatist]

23. No, But I Am Going There Right Now!!

And if there is a non-magical creature performing magic in "desperate circumstances" it could mean Arabella Figg...or maybe even Argus Filch.

I'm still hoping for Luna and Harry, though...because I have personally identified with Luna since she was first introduced. Even before that, I had wanted to be in Ravenclaw, anyway. That house just would have been more my speed than would have Gryffindor.

[PoconoPragmatist]

24. Won't Happen!!

From the book FAQ Section...

Luna and Neville will not "hook up."

[achtung_circus]

22. Purely my speculatin,

but I had an idea last week while rereading the last book in preparation for the Deathly Hollows.

Harry gained power because a woman who loved him sacrificed her life for him.

The circle would close if another woman who loved him did so at the end of the series.

That may mean Ginny Weasley.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

25. The prophesy says he's going to mark someone his equal...

And he marked Harry his equal when he attacked him. Hence the scar and the parsel tongue, etc.