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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:45 PM
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*grumble* Barry Bonds *grumble*
Why is the old has-been fucker starting LF - that honor should
clearly go to Matt Holliday of the Colorado Rockies.

Compare his stats to Barry "I'm eligible for AARP"
Bonds:

Holliday:

Year  Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB 
SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 2007 27 COL NL  87  358   56  122  30  4  15   69   4  2  28 
64  .341  .392  .573  145  205   0   0   3   2  14

Bonds:

Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB 
SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---
 2007 42 SFG NL  78  207   46   61  10  0  17   42   5  0  91 
35  .295  .512  .589  191  122   0   1  30   2   7

Note the comparison - Holliday leads in NL for batting (Pence
doesn't count), 3rd in RBI.

Barry Bonds and Matt Holliday are 6th and 7th in fielding
percentage.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know - he's a hometown favorite, but he's
still OLD!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:46 PM
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1. There's this matter of fan voting.
Most fans don't know who Matt Holliday is yet. He's a fine young player though.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:47 PM
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2. the fan voting is complete bullshit.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 08:48 PM by HawkeyeX
I would rather give fan voting, say about 1/3 of the weight in terms of selection for All-Stars, and the rest by managers/peers who REALLY know each other.

And BTW, Matt was overwhelmingly voted #1 by his PEERS - that tells me that he deserves a start, not Bonds.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:59 PM
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4. I don't disagree, but until the rules are changed...
Write your Congressman, RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!11!!1
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:43 PM
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6. I don't know...
Fan voting got Hideki Okajima to the all star team. He's been just sick this year. 0.83 ERA and .161 BA against.

As a Sox fan I've got to admit I'm a little biased though.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:48 PM
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3. Because they fear his roid rage.
BONDS SMASH!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:46 PM
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7. Hmmm...why would they invoke Ruth rather than Aaron?
Let's see. What is the difference between Ruth and Aaron? Hmmm.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:57 PM
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8. Well, since that's from the archives
Maybe it's from last year when Bonds was about to pass Ruth on the all time list.

Just my guess.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:59 PM
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9. Two reasons...
He was about to pass Ruth at the time...

and some were making lame arguments comparing Ruth's alcohol consumption with Bonds on Steroids...

The banner is in reference to those comments...

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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 10:34 PM
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5. The Giants held a 'START BARRY!' campaign
when he was running fourth in the voting. He got something like 120,000 votes in the last four days.

Fan voting is bullshit.

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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:16 PM
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10. hear hear
:toast:
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