spacelady
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Tue Jul-17-07 09:25 PM
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Poll question: I posted in GD about the catch 22 of legalizing pot for recreational use |
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since we do not have a good test for actual "intoxication" for behind the wheel or on the job & I am very interested in viable ideas of how we may accomplish this. so here is my first poll ever. Please be kind.
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Tue Jul-17-07 09:29 PM
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1. The police do have test methods for marijuana usage |
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I don't know offhand how well they work, but there are some out there.
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Tue Jul-17-07 10:21 PM
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3. Don't think they would hold up in court, hence the problem. |
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for a specific on pot use = impairment. People might have red eyes from hay fever & might act impaired from lack of sleep or any number of reasons.
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Wed Jul-18-07 06:40 AM
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9. Well no, as I understand them they test for THC presence. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 06:40 AM by EstimatedProphet
So, not just red eyes or acting weird.
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Wed Jul-18-07 01:42 AM
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how ya doin?
I think that the tests for marijuana are not fair as they don't prove intoxication at all as you say.
They prove that one has used it, and some idea of how much one might have used is approximated.
but no evidence of intoxication exists for any situation
if you smoked a joint a week ago and get injured on the job today, your workman's comp won't cover you in my state if you pop positive.
Legalize pot is the only answer and then get out of the devolved view that positive test = intoxication
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:yourock: spacelady!!!!
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Oeditpus Rex
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Wed Jul-18-07 02:10 AM
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5. They'd come up with a test |
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Remember, there was a time they didn't have one for alcohol, either.
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Wed Jul-18-07 05:50 AM
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7. Those tests stemmed from an urgent and critical need. |
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With drunk driving there is a spectacular history of catastrophes to inspire lawmakers. We The People, motivated by M.A.D.D. and others, urged our lawmakers on. Too many, no, FAR TOO MANY tragedies have happened by drunk drivers. Our current laws and tools for law enforcement grew out of this.
There is NO such heinous history like this with ANY other kinds of drugs from caffeine to cannabis, from acid to "X"stasy, (deliberate misspelling). Yes, ALL impair driving, in caffeine's case I suspect quite a bit of road rage and likely more than a few accidents have occurred. Should that be cause to find tools to measure one's blood/caffeine level? Should laws be passed? Should coffee be made illegal? Of course not because the AMOUNT of actual accidents stemming from caffeine abuse, (let's say 2 or more grande lattes per day for a week or more) have not created anywheres near the same tragic history that alcohol has. The same goes for pot. How often have you actually heard about accidents directly attributed to being stoned on pot? Sleeping pills get more recognition here for that and yet they are not outlawed.
If one were to ask ANY cop: Which causes the most mayhem on our public roads, Alcohol or Marijuana? You will get a resounding response of Alcohol. That is why there are things like breathalyzers. There should be no actual need for a pot version in this case. Policemen are well trained to judge levels of impairment. If a guy gets pulled over, obviously impaired the officer has a set of guidelines which work "OK" for now. Yes, folks can try, and often succeed to worm out of this but they do so already even with the rigorous alcohol tests. The bottom line here is to reduce the mayhem, eradication may be a goal but not a realistic one nor is there any urgent need to go that direction with potaholic drivers.
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Wed Jul-18-07 05:07 AM
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Wed Jul-18-07 06:07 AM
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8. Abstinence only! Just say "no!"! |
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There - I just made the world a perfect place.
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