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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:51 PM
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I want to go on record saying that the required secrecy involving the Potter book
seems to me to be censorship! I do not know of any other book that is now available for purchase that has its storyline embargoed and suppositions regarding its endings removed.This book is available at the stores.I can go to a supermarket, pick it up and read the last page.Yet newspapers are pulling reviews that mention the ending and TV reports are censored? I could post the ending to any other just released book, even those on the best seller list and it would be acceptable.Why is such an exception made for JK Rowling? And why are websites and media all over the world buying in to this censorship?
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 04:01 PM
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1. call congress right now...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 04:05 PM
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2. We've got to do it for the children!
Our sweet, darling little children... They're our most precious resource, you know.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 04:39 PM
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3. LOL! That was kinda my point!
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 04:51 PM
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4. Screw the kids
I don't wanna know until I've gotten a chance to read the book, which I won't be getting until the 31st.
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:19 PM
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10. "Screw the kids"
I shouldn't laugh at that

:blush:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:06 PM
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8. Sally?...Sally Struthers, is that you?
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:17 PM
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5. The controversy regarding the reviews were before the book's release
and the reason these reviews were controversial: it was not legal for these reviewers (or anyone else) to have possession of these unreleased copies

Wikipedia has the ending right here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Deathly_Hallows#End_of_book

as for DU policy (iirc), Skinner posted the Deathly Hallows rules as being that spoilers must have a "spoiler alert" warning in the thread's title
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:25 PM
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6. But they review other books before they are out
what's the big deal about Harry Potter?
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:16 PM
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9. Those books are legitimately and legally released to critics with the consent of
the author and publisher (the way movie reviewers get to see movies the day before they're released)

this one was a business decision made by the publisher and/or author. if it was censorship at all, it was self-censorship
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:50 PM
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7. It's just plain impolite and unethical and immoral to post spoilers.

Ask the Ethics Guy!

"Harry Potter Spoiler Alert!"

By Bruce Weinstein, Ph.D.

July 18, 2007
Harry Potter dies.

Harry Potter lives. Lord Voldemort dies.

Harry Potter and Lord Voldemort die.

Both hero and villain live.

Which one is it?

Whatever the case may be, a number of people are going to try to tell you and your kids the ending of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” (HPDH) before you find out on your own.

Shame on the spoilers!

It’s not inconsiderate to reveal secrets. It’s unethical. That’s right. Spoiling the ending of the Harry Potter book (and other creative works) isn’t rude. It’s wrong. And by wrong, I mean immoral.

Here’s why.

• First, the fans of Harry Potter have invested a lot of time, money, and passion in the first six volumes in the series. They have read and re-read hundreds of pages over ten years, and they are entitled to discover Harry’s fate on their own.

• Second, Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling has a right to have her intellectual property respected. This right is fundamentally an ethical one, whether or not it is codified by law. That is, even if you aren’t breaking the law by spilling the beans, you still shouldn’t do so.

Rowling has worked diligently over the years to tell the tale the way she wants to tell it, according to the schedule she has set, and it is unfair to disrespect her wishes. The fact that she is one of the most commercially successful authors of all time doesn’t mean that she gives up her right to be treated with respect; our duty to honor the integrity of her creation would apply even if her publisher hadn’t sold a quarter of a billion books (so far).

• Third, society has a compact with artists. They entertain us, and we support and protect their right to do so. If either party reneges, the deal is off.


Taking others into account in all that we do, even when it comes to something as seemingly benign as reading a book, isn’t just a social grace. It’s a responsibility.



link to full article ---> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/07/harry_potter.html
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:38 PM
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12. Weinstein's argument is crap.
• First, the fans of Harry Potter have invested a lot of time, money, and passion in the first six volumes in the series. They have read and re-read hundreds of pages over ten years, and they are entitled to discover Harry’s fate on their own.
Nonsense. That so called "entitlement" is an utter fiction, and it directly contradicts Weinstein's second point.

• Second, Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling has a right to have her intellectual property respected. This right is fundamentally an ethical one, whether or not it is codified by law. That is, even if you aren’t breaking the law by spilling the beans, you still shouldn’t do so.

Rowling has worked diligently over the years to tell the tale the way she wants to tell it, according to the schedule she has set, and it is unfair to disrespect her wishes. The fact that she is one of the most commercially successful authors of all time doesn’t mean that she gives up her right to be treated with respect; our duty to honor the integrity of her creation would apply even if her publisher hadn’t sold a quarter of a billion books (so far).
Again, nonsense. Respecting Rowling's intellectual property has nothing to do with requiring the readers to lock the secret in a box until Rowling calls "all clear." Such an absurd assertion means that no two people can discuss the book because someone somewhere might somehow overhear it in spite of Rowling's wishes. The instant Rowling released the book for sale, she lost any right of secrecy regarding the book's contents.

And if Rowling has indeed worked to tell the tale as she wishes and according to her own schedule (which she has, aside from publishers' demands, etc.), then readers have no "entitlement" whatsoever to discover Harry's fate on their own, despite Weinstein's first assertion. If they had such an entitlement, then they could have called Rowling five years ago and demanded to know what happens to him.

What they have is not an entitlement but a nebulous privilege of ignorance; they are fortunate not to know what happens, but they have no ethical or moral right or entitlement to have that ignorance protected.

• Third, society has a compact with artists. They entertain us, and we support and protect their right to do so. If either party reneges, the deal is off.
Absolute nonsense, and irrelevant in any case. Not to mention a dubious and hamfisted invocation of rights.

Artists have no "right to entertain us," and we don't support their right to do so. Instead, artists have a right to produce their art; if it entertains us, so much the better for us and for them, assuming that they're compensated for it in some way, financial or otherwise.

Appeals to morals and ethics are misguided in this context, no matter how many letters Weinstein has after his name. It is simply more consistent with the aesthetic values of society at large that the secret be preserved in order to maximize the readers' enjoyment. That, I think, is sufficient to justify a call for secrecy, without inflating a simple matter of "can you keep a secret" into a question of fundamental Right And Wrong.


In other words, don't spill the beans, but don't feel the need to bolster your willing secrecy with claims of moral or ethical propriety.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:20 PM
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11. censorship?
Which government prohibited the publication of any information about the book?
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