Need opinions on this - started out as a joke,

[zippy890]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6745925#6746029



Now am I silly to think that is a stealth bomber under that alien, and could stealth bombers and sophisticated/experimental aircraft come from Area 51?

the latin says "Tastes Like Chicken"

the 509 refers to the bomb squads for dropping nuclear bombs- is that right?

what are the other symbols, besides the alien. any body guess? the thing thats on the bomber, and behind the alien.

thanks for help

:hi:

besides, now that I've posted this and explained to uncle Mike or whoever is fucking with my photbucket & flikr accounts.

[Omphaloskepsis]

1. Someone has a sense of humour and is good at Photoshop.

Really, life must suck if you waste time worrying about these kind of things.

[zippy890]

2. who's worrying. I'm having fun

are you?

kinda like a puzzle, maybe this is the wrong forum, but this is just a lark, you know, if anybody can throw their 2 cents in, or make fun of it. Great!

[StClone]

3. Coincidentally CNN has a UFO show later tonight

I don't think much of the UFO phenomenon though I spent many hours as a kid reading books on the subject.

[baldguy]

4. Found this:

When I met fellow researcher Jim Hickman http://www.thehickmanreport.com for the first time last year, one of the things we discussed was the 509th. Jim provided me with a copy of a uniform insignia patch (left) he had recently located for the 509th. My immediate reaction when seeing it was, “here is the proof we’ve been looking for pertaining to the 509th involvement with the Roswell Incident.” It appeared pretty obvious that the 509th was identified on the insignia with the numbers 509; the B-2 Stealth Bomber was shown; and to my surprise an alien head and hands were depicted. This was it! All I had to do was contact the Air Force and verify what was on the insignia. Much to my disappointment after five months of corresponding with the Air Force, I discovered I did not have the proof I had hoped for.

I contacted the 509th at Whiteman AFB in Missouri to submit a (FOIA) Freedom of Information Act Request on Sept. 5, 2003. I received permission to submit the FOIA from the FOIA/Base Records Manager a few days later and I immediately did so with several questions pertaining to the insignia. The next correspondence I received was not from Whiteman AFB however, because my FOIA request had been transferred to the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB, California. The FOIA Custodian at Edwards AFB would make a determination whether any records could be released or withheld from disclosure under the FOIA. A few days later I received a letter from a USAF Colonel at Edwards AFB, with the title of Staff Judge Advocate, indicating, “A search of all relevant agencies has found no records responsive to your request.”

Again a few days later I was surprised when I received a large envelope from a PhD Historian at the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB containing not only answers to my questions about the insignia, but a copy of the United States Air Force “History of the 509th Bomb Wing” Fact Sheet, and an Air Force Reference Series, “Air Force Combat Wings, Lineage and Honors Histories 1947-1977” pertaining to the 509th. As one who is interested in the 509th, I considered that information a bonus.

Below are the questions I asked about the insignia patch in my FOIA request and the responses I received from the Historian at Edwards Air Force Base Flight Test Center.


Q. Because the B-2 bomber and the numbers 509 are shown on the patch, I assume this is an official insignia patch used by the 509th at some point during the testing of the aircraft?

A. This is not an official patch. The official emblem used by the 509th Bomb Wing was approved in 1952, and is very different from the example given. No official emblem would display a unit number without also indicating its function---bombing, reconnaissance, fighter, etc.


Q. Wording “Classified Flight Test” is at the top of the insignia. During what time period would the flight tests have been done and at what location?

A. No Air Force unit would ever designate “Classified Flight Test” on its emblem. Flight tests, classified or unclassified, are conducted by the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB, and no AFFTC patch ever carried such a legend.


Q. Latin words “Gustatus Similis Pullus” are shown at the bottom of the insignia. Please translate to English?

A. Guststus Similis Pullus is dog Latin for “Tastes Like Chicken.” This is supported by the alien figure, which apparently is eating the B-2.

(Ed. Note) You have to appreciate that answer coming from the United States Air Force


Q. What do the nine horizontal lines in the background represent?

A.Unknown.


Q. What is the interpretation of the symbols shown on the right and left? (One on the left appears to be a fork)

A. The symbol on the left is indeed a three-pronged fork. This would support the eating motif. The symbol on the right is unclear.

(Ed. Note) It appears to be another eating utensil, known to me as a knife.


Q. What does the upside down “Q” represent within the diagram of the B-2 bomber?

A. The “Upside down q” is a symbol used in aeronautical engineering to represent pressure ratio. Such a ratio is dimensionless.


Q. An alien face with two-three fingered hands is obviously holding the bomber on the insignia. What significance would an alien have with the B-2 bomber and/or the 509th?

A. The alien’s three-fingered hands are holding the B-2 in order to facilitate the eating activity.


Q. Who designed the insignia patch and when?

A. It is unknown who designed the patch, or when. It would be a privately-made emblem. To be used informally as a souvenir, a joke, or possibly a party favor of some kind. Such a patch would never actually be officially worn on a flight suit or uniform.

more
http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_dennis_balthaser.htm

[zippy890]

6. Wow. Thanks! quite a 'souvenir' insignia. Interesting stuff

maybe all thats going on in Area 51 is a sealed off facility, with some type of offical people (contractors?) still there - doing something, and the insignia is a combination of humor and homage to the 509th

I found this about the 509th:

"In November 1945 the 509th Composite Group left Tinian and relocated to Roswell Army Air Field, New Mexico.
...On July 10, 1946, the group was renamed the 509th Bombardment Group (Very Heavy...The group was redesignated as a medium bomb group in 1948 as part of the Strategic Air Command... The 509th was inactivated on June 16, 1952 as part of a SAC (and later Air Force-wide) phase-out of groups."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Operations_Group

The 509th was active at Roswell when the famous alien stuff supposedly happened, in 1947 I believe. But was inactivated by 1951.

Great information - thanks! I'm going to go back when I can and look at that Roswell Area 51 exhibit again in North Adams. It was quite intriguing, from a photography and history point of view.

:hi:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. Here's what I know about these things:

Let's start with a vignette: I was working, at the time, for the band "Stryper". Yeah, that Stryper. Don't ask. Anyway, we were doing a show in South Dakota, near a big SAC base. I walked into the production office and there was a pilot there., An Air Farce pilot, in his "poopy suit". On the right sleeve of said poopy suit was, affixed with velcro, his squadron patch. The major stylistic feature of the patch was the logo of the infamous porn directors, "The Dark Brothers". Their name was also embroidered on the patch, as "The Dark Brothers" was also what the squadron called themselves. They flew B-1B's, as I recall. Or maybe Aardvarks. It's been a while.

I found this quite interesting, indeed. After all, this was on an Air Farce uniform.

He said that the squadrons were given wide(wide? WIDE??!!) latitude to design their own patches and wear them at certain times. Of course, they could not be openly obscene, but once again, wide latitude. They could not wear their squadron patches on their Class A uniforms either.

That is what I think is up with that patch. An "esprit de corps" building device.