Okay. This is highly annoying.

[Lyric]

ThinkBlue1966 lost her birth certificate a while back. She needs a new copy in order to get her driver's license, because her old one is expired. So I went to the Florida Vital Statistics site to print the form we need to request a copy of her birth certificate.

Now we're kinda in a Catch-22. Florida requires a photocopy of a *valid* State ID, Military ID, or passport in order to get a copy of a birth record. But ThinkBlue1966 needs the birth record in order to get a new ID.

So she can't get her birth record without an ID, and she can't get an ID without her birth record.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Now somebody's gotta give, here. Damn. I wonder if they'll take a notarized statement swearing that ThinkBlue1966 actually *is* who she says she is. A friend of ours is a public notary.

[SeattleGirl]

1. Gotta love that government logic!

:eyes:

[Gormy Cuss]

2. Serves her right for moving out of Florida.

Yeah, it makes no sense. Call Florida and try to find someone who can give guidance because I can promise you ThinkBlue1966 isn't the first person to be caught in this situation.

How do you KNOW she isn't a terrorist? Hmmm?

[Rhythm]

8. We moved out of the Sunshine State® when Dad's hitch in the Air Force was up

I suppose i could have hidden out at the Ringling Brothers' winter compound, and pretended to be a 'little person'...

Ya know... that might just have been fun, if the elephants didn't step on me.

[Gormy Cuss]

13. Admit it -- you left because of your coulrophobia --

fear of Bozos.

[Inchworm]

3. there are other proofs of ID usually

Voter Registration?
Baptismal?
School records?
Passport?

There's probably a way if you read the fine print.

:hi:

[kay1864]

4. So she can't photocopy her expired driver's license?

I would think it's still considered "valid" even though it's expired.

[myrna minx]

5. I was chastised as if I was a child (I'm 35) by a liquor store manger

when I tried to purchased a bottle of wine for a party with an expired drivers license. He said that *I* was invalid because my ID was invalid. I told him that my age didn't reset because my license had expired. :crazy:

[Pithlet]

16. A pharmacist did the same thing to me.

Only it was because the address on my license wasn't current. I thought I'd be nice and tell him it wasn't the correct address when he went to write it down, and he informs me that my ID isn't valid, then, now is it?. I should have just kept my mouth shut and let him copy down the old address :eyes: He did sell me the cold medicine anyway, though.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. Yikes!!!

I recently spent more than a year with a valid driver's license but living at a different address. I was able to fly, rent cars and stay in hotels with that old license. And which I finally had replaced a week and a half ago.

Nobody ever told me that my ID was invalid.

[unpossibles]

6. I had a similar conundrum from NY

I had my wallet stolen, and to replace my drivers' license, I needed to order a birth certificate, which needed to be paid with a credit card only, which was stolen....

Your parents can usually order them too.

[Lyric]

9. Ooo! Now that's a possibility.

If we send the fee and the form to her Mom, I bet *she* can easily get a copy for us.

Thank you! I feel a bit dense that I didn't think of that sooner. :hi:

[ThomCat]

7. They'll usually accept an expired driver's license as proof of identity.

I hope you can get that straightened out.
:hug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

10. Y'know what's really ridiculous about this?

THEY could clear it up with two e-mails, two faxes, two phone calls, whatever. One state agency to another. Cops do it all the time.

But, noooooooooooooooo! They gotta make you jump through hoops designed by M.C. Escher.

:grr:

[Lyric]

11. I know! Grrr, so irritating.

:hug:

[ruiner4u]

12. utterly obnoxious...

I had to order my BC online and dont remember all those obnoxious hoops.. And Ohio loves to make you run a gambit of stupidity...

From what I gather on the site, YOU can request the cert by giving a copy of your ID and just stating relationship to TB66


http://www.doh.state.fl.us/planning_eval/vital_statistics/birth_death.htm

[malta blue]

14. I ordered an NYC birth certificate from these people...came in one week

http://www.vitalchek.com/agency_locator.asp?providerid=3621&eventtype=birth

[Der Blaue Engel]

15. I changed my name a few years back, and I suddenly needed a passport...

...because my job was sending me out of the country. But I couldn't get a passport, because I'd never had a copy of my birth certificate. So I went to Montana Vital Statistics online and they said I had to provide a court order of name change. But I hadn't changed it through the court, because I didn't have to in California. They wouldn't budge, so I had to re-change my name through the court. (Which, if you think about it, should not have been possible, since I had no ID in my original name. But amusingly enough, the court never asked for ID.) So after months of jumping through hoops, and approximately $500, I had the court order...and it said nothing about changing the name on my birth certificate, even though I had been assured that it would by several people along the process. When I tried to get them to remedy this, I was told that California could not legally order another state to do anything.

I was flummoxed.

Luckily, a nice lady at MT Vital Stats decided to give me a break, and accepted a notarized affidavit that I was me. (Which I'd had all along.)

:banghead:

[MissB]

17. When I applied, I could get one for dh because we were married.

So if she has a hubby, she might go with that route.

[Orrex]

19. Notarization might not be enough

I'm not a lawyer, but there's a wide range of transactions and undertakings for which a notary's stamp is insufficient.

Might you contact your Representative? Sometimes they eat up this kind of stuff (servant of the constituency, and all that).

Has ThinkBlue1966 been fingerprinted at any time? I wonder if that might provide an avenue?

Yikes. What a pain in the ass for her!