''Vick had a passion for dogfighting''

[pokerfan]

according to Deion Sanders:
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070722/COLUMNISTS41/70722009

Deion Sanders is insane.

[VLC]

1. What a jerk

Plus, he pulls out the old "let's worry about humans " BS, like it's impossible to care about both.

Jerks like him should be subpoenaed to give up names of other famous dog fighters and they can all rot in jail together.

Comparing watching animals fight to the death to wearing ugly jewelry? Please.

For the record, I do believe in innocent until proven guilty, but if Vick is found guilty I hope he gets the maximum sentence and has all his material things seized.

Here's an address to write if you'd like to thank the rag for exposing Sanders' insanity:

[e-mail]

I just wrote the Austin Wranglers, a team Sanders part owns, to ask how they are liking being associated with bloodlust and felon fans. I wonder if that's gonna help business:

http://www.austinwranglers.com/CreateTicket.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3600

[stuntcat]

3. normally innocent until proven guilty

I'm wild about Innocent Until Proven Guilty, I mean it, but I saw video of the dogs being removed from his property.

I'm sending a letter to this wizard Deion

[pokerfan]

11. What's funny is that Deion begins with "don't be too quick to judge."

then moves on to:

"Was he wrong? Absolutely. Was he stupid? Can’t argue with that. Was he immature? No doubt. But is he the ringleader? I just can’t see it." Hey Deion, it doesn't matter!

"I believe Vick had a passion for dogfighting. I know many athletes who share his passion." Really, Deion? Many athletes?

By the end of this retarded op/ed, he's admitting that Vick's involvement and implying that there many other athletes involved.

And that we shouldn't care because thy're just dogs. Not any different than a car or jewelry.

[DS1]

7. "but if Vick is found innocent I hope he gets the maximum sentence"

Bush?


:evilgrin:

[VLC]

10. Wouldn't that be cool

if they both got sentenced?

Thanks though, I fixed it!

[malta blue]

2. This just sick...

"Some people kiss their dogs on the mouth. Some people let their dogs eat from their plate. Some people dress their dogs in suits more expensive than mine, if you can believe that.

And some people enjoy proving they have the biggest, toughest dog on the street. You’re probably not going to believe this, but I bet Vick loves the dogs that were the biggest and the baddest. Maybe, he identified with them in some way."

[pokerfan]

5. ''It’s like ultimate fighting, but the dog doesn’t tap out when he knows he can’t win.''

Yeah Deion, it's just like mixed martial arts competitions.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[grace0418]

13. Yeah, because ulimate fighters are forced to fight by their owners and live in cages

when they're not fighting, and get electrocuted when they don't win, and really have no choice in the matter.

:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

What a fucking idiot. Can someone please explain to this moran that none of his comparisons make any sense?

[grace0418]

8. Soooooooooooo, because some people are kooky enough to dress their dogs

in expensive suits (not actually physically harming the dog in any way, of course), that makes it okay for Michael Vick to force his dogs to fight to the death and electrocute the ones that don't perform? Is that the logic I'm supposed to get out of Sanders' comment?

Does he have any idea how completely crazy he sounds?

It's beyond sick.

[DS1]

4. I've heard, but not seen, that there's a video floating around of him

doing something with the dogs.

[xchrom]

6. i have a passion about vick spending a long time in jail.

[BarenakedLady]

9. WTF?

Grrrr

:mad:

That logic is sickening.

[pokerfan]

15. It's the logic of a five year old written at an eighth grade level

Just a long rambling laundry list of excuses and attempts at deflection:

Other people do kooky things with their dogs.
They're just dogs not people.
There are worse crimes, like murder and robbery.
He wasn't the ringleader.

[Strawman]

12. "Don't be so quick to judge"???

How about "don't be so boxed in by cultural relativism that one fails to discern acts of vicious cruelty and condemn them?"

But that's really even being too kind to Deion's argument. Seems like more of a narcissistic take on the whole episode that cynically trivializes the legitimate case for respecting cultural differences in order to disarm critics. More than anything else, it all seems to pivot on Deion's inflated sense of self-importance. Vick is "prime time" just like him and that's really what it's all about.

Fucking moron.

He can't even persuasively pretend that he views dogs as anything other than objects of bullshit macho violence when he brags about how his German Shepherds will attack anyone who tries to steal what he has. Because we all want what he has you know. :sarcasm:

[philosophie_en_rose]

14. Really?

Seems more like he had a passion for torturing animals. He wasn't wrestling with dogs. He was killing them.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

16. Does the network know about this?

Anybody dumbfuck enough to hold this opinion, much less publish it, shouldn't be providing expert commentary on anything.

[mikeytherat]

17. "The allure is the intensity and the challenge of a dog fighting to the death."

Wow. I mean, wow.

I never thought I could think less of Deion Sanders, and then he goes and proves me wrong.

mikey_the_rat

[Left Is Write]

18. Well, that's a stupid thing to have a "passion" for.

Sort of like, "He had a passion for torture."

[idgiehkt]

35. actually

it's exactly like he had a passion for torture

[Neshanic]

19. What. A. Freak.

Jesus on a Jet Ski hitch. Where do you begin with something like that?

Deion may me looking for a new NFL related job in his future.

Oh, and Jan Crouch(big hair PTL crying jag nutcase)is a big pal of Deion and has little dogs she likes.

[pokerfan]

20. Deion says his written words were misconstrued

Well then, whose fault is that?

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070728/SPORTS/707280421/1075

Deion answers back

Sanders discusses criticism about his Michael Vick column

By Ed Reed
Originally posted on July 28, 2007

The written word can be interpreted different ways.

Former NFL star and Fort Myers native Deion Sanders found that out this week regarding his column about Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick that ran in The News-Press on Sunday.

Readers called and e-mailed the paper early in the week believing Sanders defended Vick, who has been indicted on federal dogfighting charges, and the illegal activity in which he's alleged to participate.

The backlash grew larger after radio personality John Kincaid discussed Sanders' column while a guest host of the Colin Cowherd Show on ESPN Radio Thursday morning. By Thursday afternoon, the national media had picked up the column and many readers locally and from across the country were criticizing Sanders.

"I do not condone it, and I never insinuated I condoned it," Sanders said. "I said it is wrong.

"That was never stated, never at all. How could I when I have three (German) shepherds. I take family pictures with them. They're part of the family."

Sanders, who is under contract with the NFL Network, began writing a column for The News-Press on a freelance basis in January. He believes the difference between communicating on TV and in print caused some of the confusion.

"You can see me articulate, my expression, my mannerisms on TV," Sanders said. "With the written word, they can pick apart what you did and misuse it and abuse it. People have taken pieces and are using them the way they want."

Thursday marked Vick's first appearance in federal court as he pleaded not guilty in Richmond, Va. In the indictment, he was accused of sponsoring an enterprise that led to the gruesome deaths of losing dogs. Sanders believes the court date had a lot to do with the column gaining momentum.

"I'm a national figure writing in a local paper," Sanders said. "I'm doing it because I want to, but I'm not naive enough to think my words don't carry weight. They carry weight.

"The NFL is like a fraternity. The real issue to me is, I think anybody, if someone in their family has done wrong or is doing wrong or made a bad, terrible decision, do we stone them or do we pray for them? I definitely, absoluetly do not condone anything, but I am praying for him."

[Oeditpus Rex]

21. As a former newspaper editor

I'm here to tell you that Deion Sanders was frequently a go-to guy for opinions on legal matters. Indeed, when a local sheriff's deputy was charged with beating up a Red Sox fan after a Sox-Angels game, the first thing I said to the reporter was "Get a quote from Deion."

[Heidi]

22. Why?

Was it because he was generally willng to comment, because he could speak authoritatively on legal matters, or for some other reason? :shrug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

23. Because he's Neon, man!

Are you helping me catapult the propaganda or did you actually fall for that? :rofl:

[Heidi]

24. I just recall

that reporters in newsrooms where I worked often called up guys like that for a comment because they were an "easy quote." :shrug:

:hug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

25. I know, but

Deion Sanders? :rofl:



(The part about the sheriff's deputy is true, though.)

[Heidi]

26. I know.

I know.

He's the guy who said:
"Randy Moss is like a beautiful woman who can't cook, doesn't want to clean and doesn't want to
take care of kids. You really don't want her, but she's so beautiful that you can't let her go. That's
how Randy is. You have to take the good with the bad."
- Deion Sanders, during an appearance on Sporting News Radio (1/13/04)

[Oeditpus Rex]

27. He's also the guy who said

You can still choose to condemn him, but I’m trying to take you inside his mind so you can understand where he might be coming from.

Because Deion Sanders knows the inside of Michael Vick's mind, yup.



Still, I must ask the question: Where is all of this going?

Dunno, dude. You're driving. :shrug:

[Heidi]

28. Obviously, I'm no big fan of Deion,

but I'm still a little bit amazed at this thread. The guy expressed an opinion in an editorial column. It's not like he has any real influence over the future of dogfighting or the outcome of Vick's case. If people are upset with the column, a better venue for their ire would be a letter to the editor. :shrug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

29. My point

I can't understand giving Neon Deion Fucking Sanders any credibility on this or pretty much any other issue. :shrug:

[Heidi]

30. Agree.

He certainly seems to enjoy hearing/seeing himself talk. :sigh:

[Oeditpus Rex]

31. And some seem to enjoy giving him a forum

Like a small-town Gannett paper. I think we know how that meeting went, such as it was.

M.E.: "He's a local and he has a name. Who cares if he has nothing to say? He'll sell papers!"

Sports Ed: "Cool! Maybe I can get his autograph!"



Since I've got a good rant about newspapers goin', I found this on the small-town Gannett paper's web site — because the 62nd anniversary is such a hallmark.


For the 62nd anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima — Aug. 6, 1945 — The News-Press is looking for people with connection to the world-changing event. That could be a direct connection, such as someone who worked on the Manhattan Project, or an indirect connection, such as someone fighting in the Pacific when the bomb was dropped, a member of a B-29 crew that flew bombing missions over Japan before Aug. 6, or someone stationed on Tinian.

Please send e-mails to...


What is the 62nd anniversary, anyway? Tobacco? Paint? Non-ferrous metal shavings?

:eyes:

[Heidi]

32. Oh, my.

I _loathe_ sh!t like that.

[Oeditpus Rex]

33. It's a sham

"We'll get some e-mail about this, and we can copy and paste them and get 20 inches out of it — 25 with a couple of pull quotes. If there's anybody who still has their old uniform or something like that, we can get art of that. Maybe we'll get lucky and get somebody with one of those 'Pearl Harbor Survivor' hats. But we'd better do it now because by next year, more of them will have died off."



Journalism. :eyes:

[Heidi]

34. Navigating by column inches.

:puke:

[idgiehkt]

36. Now for the rebuttal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBuEBHi3BzU

:woohoo:

[judaspriestess]

37. sorry but sanders was always a complete idiot to me

and this just further validates it.

I HATE American Pro Football.