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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:27 PM
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A major underlying theme of the 7th HP book (maybe minor spoiler!)
I'm rereading it already to catch a few things I missed the first time through, and I have noticed a very strong motif that I missed the first time through. The issue is that much of the book's plot is about men and their constant necessity to compare the sizes of their wands and how powerful their "wands" really are. Jo Rowling must have internalized a lot of, and disdain for, penis envy in her life. :rofl:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:46 PM
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1. I really dug the part where
Voldy takes Lucius's wand and is comparing the lengths.

Interesting that Harry does the same thing with Malfoy's wand later in the book. :D
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:23 PM
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3. Ah, but at least with Harry
it was a critical part of the plot. In fact, vital. :)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:15 AM
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13. You think Voldy ganking Lucius's wand
isn't vital to the plot? :shrug:

It's definitely a symbolic castration.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:27 PM
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17. Here's a very snarky plot summary of Deathly Hallows (mega-spoilers):
includes some of the wand stuff, plus other great snark:

excerpts:
Page 82: Oh good, it's the return of Angry Jackass Harry. I never ever get tired of him.


Page 111: "Chapter Seven: The Will of Albus Dumbledore." Opens up with Harry waking up to discover he is seventeen and can do magic. Ron celebrates by giving Harry a book on how to magically control chicks. No, seriously, that is what Ron does, all the while extolling about how if he'd only had this book last year he totally would have boned Lavender Brown. Ron Weasley: date rapist. (Okay, in fairness, the book is not ENTIRELY about using magic to get laid. But still, Ron giving Harry the wizarding equivalent of "The System" is creepy all on its own.)

Page 115: Ginny didn't know what to get Harry, so she's decided to give it up. Cue "Natural Woman" on the magical CD player. Oh wait Ron interrupts them before they can really get going! Ron Weasley: date rapist and hypocrite.

Page 119: Harry compliments Hermione. Harry figures out that Ron did this because he read the fuck-a-witch book and boy howdy he can't wait to try that shit out! DEAR GOD WHEN DID THIS BOOK TURN INTO A CREEPY EXAMINATION OF J.K. ROWLING'S SEXUAL POLITICS?




Page 415: Ron is horribly enthused about having a super-wand. Hermione points out that it's not how super the wand is, but how well you use it. LOOK, I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP, IT IS ALL THERE ON THE PAGE, PEOPLE!

much more:
http://www.ljseek.com/wherein-it-s-completely-legal-now-so-bite-me_223703652.html

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 04:12 PM
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18. I loved that!
I guess the author of the piece really, really hates Ron! :rofl:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 12:09 PM
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19. awesome...
:rofl:

(ps I thought Ron was saying that if he'd had the book he would have known how to DUMP Lavender.)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:19 PM
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2. I noticed that, too.
:D
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:25 PM
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5. Did you also notice
that the anatomy of a woman was far more important in the lounge today? When are we going to get equal rights to discuss the opposite? Heh, heh.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:29 PM
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6. How'd that happen anyway?
Mods busy playing slots, or what? :D
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:31 PM
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7. I blame Will
He was getting attacked by his cat who wanted one of his cigarettes, and looking for the plural of "clitoris." :rofl:

I don't know where it went after a couple of hours cause I had to leave. :)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:15 PM
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9. I should have known!
And I won't ever go looking for the plural of "clitoris" again. :scared:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:24 PM
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4. The final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort:
comparing wand length, then slapping each other silly with their wands.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:34 PM
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8. Well
I don't think any of us wanted the final confrontation to be in the boys' bathroom at any rate! :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:43 PM
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10. "I can pee farther than you, Potter!'
See how mighty the Dark Lord's urine is!
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:50 PM
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11. Heh - there's a website where people have posted all the double entenres in HP7, many of them
involving wands, of course.

I'll see if I can find it...
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:58 PM
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12. Here it is: (spoiler alert!)
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:35 AM
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14. Those are hilarious!
It's really funny to look at the story as an adult and pick these things out. It also makes extra fun to see the kids of today looking at the book some years down the line and deriving completely new observations from it!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:10 AM
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15. Oy, I'm such a sheltered prude. None of this would ever occur to me.
I browsed the link posted above. It's just hilarious! I still don't think I'd pick up on it on my own if I reread the book though. I'm so horribly oblivious.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:59 AM
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16. It took me awhile
After I'd finished the book the first time through. And then I realised that when they were discussing all the different wands (with Ollivander at Bill and Fleur's) they were mentioning the lengths and then it became fairly obvious--younger fans aren't going to get it, though, because they don't have anything to reference it to--at least I hope they don't! And I always snigger when they say men have the worst dirty minds--I think women have just as dirty minds as the guys, but we tend to think it instead of verbalizing it--unless we're alone with other like-minded women.
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