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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:12 AM
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Showgirls: A Masterpiece of American Cinema
The dramatic rise and fall of Nomi Malone. Who knew it could be one of the funniest movies EVER. Whether edited for cable or uncut, it is still, truly a cinematic jewel.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:21 AM
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1. There is something about it...
It's truly awful and you can't help but watch it.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 03:49 AM
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8. It's the boobies.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:27 AM
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9. The 'Citizen Kane' of boobie films? n/t
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:23 AM
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2. Love it
Is has that certain Return To The Valley Of Dolls je ne se quois
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:27 AM
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3. Yes, it does
Its not really something one can easily explain, but it really has an allure. Something so crappy that it transcends its crappiness into something else.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:29 AM
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4. crappy transendence maybe?
:shrug:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 01:30 AM
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5. Perhaps
Perhaps. In any case, it is truly movie magic!

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 03:27 AM
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7. It's not even in the same class as Beyond the Valley of the Dolls...
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 03:16 AM
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6. A friend of mine had never seen it and I told him, "You will not believe how bad
this movie is." He said, "Nothing's that bad."

So, we rented it.

He watched about 20 minutes of it and said, "You were right...turn it off."
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 07:10 AM
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10. Decades from now, it will be recognized as a brilliant underrated film
It has certain qualities that will make it transcend time. It seems trashy, but it has something about it that resonates. Paul Verhoeven is a very good director, and this film it has a B movie quality about it, however there is something to it. An epic story. An intriguing protagonist. A unique setting. 30 years from now, film buffs will be talking about it the way something like Mean Streets is talked about now.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:57 AM
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12. That's an...interesting perspective.
One wouldn't imagine referencing "Showgirls" and Scorcese in the same review.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:31 AM
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13. normally I wouldn't
and I am still not a big fan of the film, but it has certain qualities in it's favor. It'll never be considered an overlooked "Lawrence of Arabia" or anything, but I think certain aspects of it will help it resonate over time.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:50 AM
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11. Never has a movie with so much sex and nudity...
been so mind-crushingly boring.

And that includes most porn videos. Showgirls makes any given bukkake video look like Lawrence of Arabia.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:34 AM
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14. dude, I just mentioned Lawrence in another reply
:)

Oh yeah, it is boring. Never been a fan. But it does have some things going for it. The sort of stuff film nerds like. I've been told by a film professor that it's one of those movies that nobody likes and ridicules, but when you step back and watch it years later, it has a certain level of brilliance.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:19 AM
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18. I actually worked on the post-production of Showgirls
And even then while collecting my paycheck, I knew it was a piece of shit. But I can see how some people might find it "so awful, it's good". Hell, XANADU is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Verhoeven's Starship Troopers, for me, kind of fits the framework of what you're talking about. I know a lot of people that hate that movie, but watch it again today and you'll see that it's an amazingly prescient parody of the War on Terra, years before 9/11.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:35 AM
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19. you know, I liked Starship Troopers
I don't know how intentional it was, but having Doogie Howser in a Nazi uniform was effing brilliant! :)

It is a very prescient parody. It's funny how stuff like that has so much truth to it.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:43 AM
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15. The "sex" is PG-13 and fraudulent. Nudity - articifial and airbrushed.
The script reads like the worst magnetic poetry thrown on the side of a Frigidaire.
It has the pacing and movement of a train derailment and recovery put on loop.
I mean, who the hell was THAT casting director? Let's put the worst participant in the "Saved by the Bell" cast (and that counts the various extras that said nothing) as your LEAD?
One critic called it "smut" and "porno", quite a stretch since there weren't any discernable elements of it that I saw.

Showgirls . . . well, you really HAVE to call it a masterpiece of American Cinema. That is, if we're discussing films that take the most shameful excesses of waste, superficiality, vapidity and an assload of DUMB and combined them into a 2-hour plus steaming-hot pile of bison shit in a canister.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:47 AM
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16. I had a huge crush on E. Berkely from Saved by the Bell
so seeing her in this movie was a little taste of heaven.

But yes, the movie sucked, but who actually listens to it?
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:11 AM
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17. My husband and I rented it when we were in college
Although I wouldn't call it great, I wouldn't call it bad. I did not find it particuliarly funny though. I thought that the story and how it painted the industry was interesting.
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