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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:45 PM
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Firefighters complain: forced to ride in gay pride parade, harrassed
Story at:
http://www.10news.com/news/13835506/detail.html

And San Diego is not particularly homophobic: a city councilmember, the district attorney, and the city's fire chief are all openly lesbian.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:49 PM
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1. Yah, but its ok for girls to have sex
as long as we can watch, but firefighters cant be gay, no sir


:sarcasm:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:55 PM
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2. They're not gay, they say they were forced by their superiors to ride in the parade even though
they are heterosexual, and that the parade onlookers verbally harrassed them with sexual remarks.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:57 PM
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4. Poor widdle firefighters.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:59 PM
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5. I have to chuckle
Firefighters who risk their lives running into burning buildings, complaining about taunts from the crowd. Did they fear sexual harrassment? Maybe now then can empathize with gays. And, I wonder just how much tax revenue the gay community pumps into San Diego and I wonder how many Veterans were marching in the parade.

Do they want to pick and choose which parades the participate in, like christians who pick and choose in the bible how to live their lives.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:04 PM
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7. But...but...
someone--anyone--might think they're ACTUALLY GAY!

How can any macho firefighter live with THAT?!?!


:eyes:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:55 PM
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3. They need to deal with it.
This is ridiculous. All fire departments are forced to participate in events they don't "want" to participate in, whether it's putting the trucks in Christmas parades, providing protection at fireworks festivities for organizations they may not "like," Sons of Confederate Veterans events, patriotic events, church events, and so forth...

What did they have to do? Get the trucks to the parade route and then ride in or on the truck, some FFs providing escort along side the truck? Gay people provide tax support to the fire departments, too.

Good to hear that they have a woman chief. In our county, it's VERY hard for women to become firefighters--there is a lot of male resistance--but when they do, they become "one of the boys," and aren't treated any differently.

This may have more to do with the chief being a woman than about having to participate in a parade. I hope that she disciplines the ones who are rebelling against her right now...I know numerous fire chiefs, and they surely wouldn't put up with such shit.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:02 PM
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6. Oh no, not these guys again...
The Thomas More Law Center, a conservative Christian legal organization based in Michigan, is helping represent the plaintiffs.

These are the same zeroes who represented the Dover Pa. School District--the school board that was trying to push "Intelligent Design" onto its biology students. (they lost in a monumental court decision, and the members were kicked off the school board)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:05 PM
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8. They'll lose.
And then I hope they get fired.

What wusses.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:07 PM
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9. And *amazingly enough*, when you go their website
and try to look up their most famous case, Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District:


Search Results
No results were found for the term "Kitzmiller".

:rofl:



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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:07 PM
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10. So what will there strategy be?
employees don't have to do what their supervisors tell them to do? Encourage the firefighters to riot or strike and not fight future fires until they are guaranteed the no obey clause?

Christians are fucking idiots and have no appreciation of our constitution (except when it comes to their RIGHTS!)
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:09 PM
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11. "Fundie Christians", please
Not all Christians are fucking idiots. Some are DUers in good standing.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:11 PM
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12. Okay, I'll grudgingly conceed that point
If some "christians" had their way I would never have the opportunity to make it in the first place.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:13 PM
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13. well it's their own damned fault
for being so sexy.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:17 PM
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14. I could post FF photos that would turn your stomach.
Not all look like that! :rofl: 99% do NOT look like that.

I wish they did! :D
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:18 PM
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15. so do i...
its probably a good thing most dont look like that, otherwise id be in the can for arson..
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:19 PM
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16. LOL!
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:20 PM
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17. So do I Maddy...
So do I...

:9
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 01:23 PM
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18. Most of ours are middle-aged guys...
with pot bellies and love handles.

When they're in their turnouts and helmet, they look good. Turnouts hide the bellies...lol. But once the turnouts are off and the civvies are on, well, you wouldn't give them a second look.

:hi:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:31 PM
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19. Go for it
Firefighters have strict fitness requirements 'cause they have to haul hose.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:47 PM
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21. Yeah, when they are hired they have to pass academy.
But they don't have to keep up those fitness levels after they are hired. Some do. Most don't.

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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:35 PM
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20. Why don't the firemen in my neighborhood look like that?
Oh my goodness, I just love those little cuts next to the hipbones.

***sigh***

Thanks for the short sweet trip down memory lane...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 02:51 PM
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22. sigh -- n/t
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