NightTrain
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Sun Jan-25-04 12:54 PM
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Hey, blues fans: want a good laugh? |
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Just found this message posted to rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s. The writer is all of 40 years old:
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I like the blues as background music when there's nothing else on the radio. I even like it more than r&b.
But Howlin' Wolf's version of the blues represents the genre at its worst. The man's voice is abrasive as all hell, and his music is too twangy (in a tasteless fashion) to properly capture the blues atmosphere. It reminds me of any of a dozen blues bands I've seen live at various bars in Hoboken and the Village -- all of whom I much prefer over Mr. Wolf.
Now, granted, I prefer the big band blues of Woody Herman over this homegrown washboard & harmonica stuff, so the purists here (cough) can claim I don't get it -- but my favorite blues album is BALLAD OF THE BLUES, by Jo Stafford. Backed by Paul Weston, it's actually a 1/2 hour nonstop medley of blues songs strung together with short choral bridges by The Starlighters. It's a high-gloss, polished version of the blues to be sure -- but blues doesn't have to be low-tech to affect me as "real." Jo Stafford's perfect voice is not only far more beautiful than Mr. Wolf's, it's more expressive as well -- and the album, presenting an all-encompassing story of the blues, is an experience not to be missed.
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"Howlin' Wolf represents the blues at its worst."
That's like saying Wilson Pickett represents soul music at its worst. Or that the Johnny Burnette Trio represents rockabilly at its worst. Or that the "5" Royales represent R&B vocal groups at their worst.
Incredible....
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:07 PM
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1. The whole idea of the blues is that it is an honest expression of |
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emotion instead of some polished performance.
I don't know that I've ever heard "The Starlighters," but judging from their name, they don't sound like a blues band.
I wonder what the post-er thinks of Muddy Waters (best voice) and BB King (best lead guitar)?
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:11 PM
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2. Well everybody has an opinion |
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Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:12 PM by Bluzmann57
Of course, it's not always a correct opinion. Mr. Burnett(Howlin' Wolf) may have had a gruff voice, but he was a genuine article. And Wolfman Jack was, imo, a direct ripoff of The Wolf. Only Wolfman Jack made a ton of money with a little talent, whereas Chester Burnett made little money with more musical talent. Hopefully Burnett's estate is getting royalty payments from all of his tunes that are still being performed to this day.
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:18 PM
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3. Ah the bliss of the ignorant... |
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well this clown doesn't want the blues - he wants faux blues aural wall paper that desn't make any demands on him - but allows him to be smug and superior while sipping a mixed drink. (Washbords and Harmonicas Indeed)
Wolf's muisc is a primal force - Sam Philips said when he heard Wolf sing "THis is it - this is where the soul of Man never dies". Wolf is as real as it gets - if you can't handle that go listen to Kenny G.
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:29 PM
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4. Yeah, I prefer blues singers who sound less...well, black. |
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Sarcasm suit on and sealed!
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:30 PM
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5. Actually ......I agree with 90% of what he says. |
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If you really want to "get down to it" everybody who came after the Black Folks singing in the cotton fields are just copy-cats and should be graded on an equal basis. As for BB King, There's a thousand Guitarists that would smoke him off the stage nowadays.... just as they're tons of singers that are better than hollin' Wolf.
Just because you are lucky enough to start a trend does not mean that you own it or are the best at doing it.....
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:33 PM
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6. We lived in a housing project for several years, I got an African-American |
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acculteration from living in Westlawn in Milwaukee. I remember hearing Howlin' Wolf's voice for the first time at a friend's house-it scared me in a good way!
I was about ten then. I'm 54 now, a boomer. Howlin' Wolf was truly a bluesman of extraordinary talent, plus he had Willie Dixon songs for the most part.
I love his work. The Wolf.
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:34 PM
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7. Whitebread cluelessness |
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at its worst. Scary to think that such dinosaurs still walk among us.
:scared:
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:51 PM
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If it's not "sanitised for your protection" then it must be dangerous - best stay away from it, eh?
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Sun Jan-25-04 03:01 PM
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9. I heard some good Howlin' Wolf this morning on the radio. |
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"Sunday Morning Blues" is the show on a classic rock station here in Boston (WZLX). Man, I have a real hard time getting myself up out of bed when I'm listening to all that great music.
It sounds like that guy likes blues lite, and perhaps faux blues too. LOL
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Sun Jan-25-04 03:12 PM
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10. he ought to learn some history |
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Sun Jan-25-04 03:34 PM
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11. Could it be one of those trolls that are going around? |
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I mean, come on:
"I like the blues as background music when there's nothing else on the radio."
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Sun Jan-25-04 04:04 PM
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Sun Jan-25-04 11:16 PM
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It is to laugh
(two Bugs Bunny lines)
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Sun Jan-25-04 05:30 PM
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13. I bet he likes BLUESHAMMER! |
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I wonder what he'd think were he exposed to Mississippi John Hurt. Or Blind Willie McTell. Or Skip James, or Brownie McGhee, or "the Masked Marvel" Mr. Charley Patton hisself?
Some people.
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NightTrain
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Sun Jan-25-04 05:57 PM
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14. Know who that guy reminded me of? |
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Fans of today's so-called "country music" who claim to love the genre, "but I can't the old stuff." Well, excuse the fuck out of me, but "the old stuff" was REAL country!
Any "country music fan" who can't stand Hank Williams ain't really a country music fan, IMHO!
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Sun Jan-25-04 05:59 PM
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Sun Jan-25-04 06:39 PM
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16. Or the Bearwallow Mountain Boys.... |
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Sun Jan-25-04 08:33 PM
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I just hopped over to my music file and put Muddy Waters & Howlin Wolf on to remind me of why I listen to the blues. Currently playing:
Red Rooster.
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Sun Jan-25-04 10:51 PM
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