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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:23 PM
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Worst "Best Actress" winner at the Oscars.
I like these threads. Someone can start more if you like.

My choices. Well, it's more like "who was ROBBED", because both of these women are wonderful actresses ... BUT should have not won that year.

1. Glenda Jackson "A Touch of Class" - Barbra Streisand was not only robbed for "The Way We Were", she was throw in the back of a car and taken hostage!

2. Grace Kelly "Country Girl" - Judy Garland in "A Star is Born" is one of the best performances EVER! Love Princess Grace ... but .... Oh no you di'nt OSCAR!

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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:31 PM
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1. Meryl Streep for Out of Africa over Whoopi for the Color Purple or Jessica Lang for Sweet Dreams
I love you Meryl Streep, but lord, you don't have to win EVERYTIME you are nominated.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:38 PM
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2. Meryl didn't win that year.
From the Oscar website ....

The lovely Miss Geraldine Page won for "The Trip to Bountiful".

Jessica & Meryl were nominated that same year.


Anne Bancroft -- Agnes of God {"Sister Miriam Ruth"}
Whoopi Goldberg -- The Color Purple {"Celie"}
Jessica Lange -- Sweet Dreams {"Patsy Cline"}
* Geraldine Page -- The Trip to Bountiful {"Mrs. Watts"}
Meryl Streep -- Out of Africa {"Karen"}
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:44 PM
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3. Oh that's right, I was bitter about Color Purple losing to Out of Africa for Best Picture
I knew it was something
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:13 PM
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13. Same here,
Color Purple was by far the best picture of the year. I fell asleep watching "Out of Africa".
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:46 PM
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4. Marisa Tomei....
...for "My Cousin Vinny".
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:52 PM
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6. That's best supporting .. we should include that group as well.
I LOVED her in that. I think she should have won. Comedy doesn't get awarded enough.

There was such a fuss over Marisa winning that year. But she proved the critics wrong when she was nominated again in 2001.

2001 (74th)
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

* Jennifer Connelly -- A Beautiful Mind {"Alicia Nash"}
Helen Mirren -- Gosford Park {"Mrs. Wilson"}
Maggie Smith -- Gosford Park {"Constance, Countess of Trentham"}
Marisa Tomei -- In the Bedroom {"Natalie Strout"}
Kate Winslet -- Iris {"Young Iris Murdoch"}
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:25 PM
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30. My bad, you're right, it was for supporting....
...I had forgotten. That's what age does to one...;-)
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:54 PM
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7. That was Best Supporting Actress, wasn't it? Whoopi Goldberg, "Ghost"
There are so many bad ones in that category that I can hardly consider which one was "the worst." Some great ones, too - but "Ghost" should have been banned from any awards for overall sappiness, and being one of the top 10 most stupid movies any guy should ever have to suffer through.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:07 PM
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9. I don't agree.
However, Whoops won the "You should have won for ......" award and she was great in "Ghost". I'm glad she won.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:13 PM
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14. Tough for me to separate the movie from any of the performances.
I found "Ghost" insipid and manipulative, but then, it was never advertised as a "guy flick," so I should have known better. Still, there are plenty of sensitive love stories that I have been touched by that were good quality movies with quality performances. "Ghost" was not one of them (and you can throw "Pretty Woman" on that trash heap, as well).
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:15 PM
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19. Nah, that got that one right, for a change. nt
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:34 PM
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35. Yeah, but if I remember correctly, you liked Gladiator....
....so, we probably have different taste....:P ;-)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:40 PM
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36. They got Gladiator right, too.
Very subtle, understated performance by Crowe, and a script that actually had a plot rather than just a bunch of pretty scenes that approximated a story. Watch it again, you'll be surprised what you missed the first time.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:43 PM
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38. As I said, ....
...we have different taste. And that's OK! ....;-)
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:50 PM
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5. Katherine Hepburn, "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner"
Love the woman, not that it's a bad performance - but she beat out Faye Dunaway in "Bonnie and Clyde," Anne Bancroft in "The Graduate" and Audrey Hepburn in "Wait Until Dark." C'mon.

Special pie in the face to Helen Hunt for "As Good As It Gets." Wassup with that? What was so special about that performance, that any actress could have turned in? Her subsequent career validates the error of that award.

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:08 PM
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10. that's true about Hunt
all she did was play the straigh man to Nicholson. :shrug:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:11 PM
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11. Look at the nominees that year ...
I liked "As Good As It Gets" ..... but come on!


ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Helena Bonham Carter -- The Wings of the Dove {"Kate Croy"}
Julie Christie -- Afterglow {"Phyllis Mann"}
Judi Dench -- Mrs. Brown {"Queen Victoria"}
* Helen Hunt -- As Good As It Gets {"Carol Connelly"}
Kate Winslet -- Titanic {"Rose DeWitt Bukater"}
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:13 PM
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15. I think Kate would have been a fairer winner
I haven't seen the other movies so I don't know.

Things like this are why I just about fell out of my chair when Hilary Swank actually WON for "Boys Don't Cry". I shed some tears that night...anyone else winning that would have been a crime, but they are unpredictable.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:14 PM
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16. Helen Hunt over Dame Judi????
To say that was a travesty is a massive understatement.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:06 PM
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8. Let me add .... who should have been nominated ...
Madonna for "Evita". Granted Frances McDormand deserved her Oscar for "Fargo", but Madonna should have been nominated.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:18 PM
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22. I thought Annette Bening should have been nominated for Bugsy.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:22 PM
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27. Cary Grant for "North by Northwest" the same year Heston won for "Ben-Hur"
Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Cary Grant never winning an Oscar was a travesty. For the women, Myrna Loy never winning was also ridiculous.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:11 PM
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12. Is there a link
where you can find out who was nominated for what years?

I think I remember Jessica Lang winning for "Tootsie" and she just simpered through that movie. There has to have been someone else nominated who was better...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:14 PM
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17. Here ya go.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:15 PM
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18. here's wiki's list
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:21 PM
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25. ooooh...it was "supporting actress, and she beat Terri Garr
that's why it sticks in my head. I still remember some of Garr's lines from that movie word for word... Terri wuzrobbed, seriously. Criminal.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:24 PM
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28. and Jessica only won that year ..
because look at this. She was up for BOTH Best Lead and Best Supporting Actress ...

Meryl was a lock for Best Actress and I think Glenn Glose should have won for Best Supporting.

It was one of those academy ... "oh you're not gonna win for Best Actress, so here ya go" awards. Which is shit, because Glenn or Teri should have won.


ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Julie Andrews -- Victor/Victoria {"Victor/Victoria"}
Jessica Lange -- Frances {"Frances Farmer"}
Sissy Spacek -- Missing {"Beth Horman"}
* Meryl Streep -- Sophie's Choice {"Sophie"}
Debra Winger -- An Officer and a Gentleman {"Paula Pokrifki"}

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Glenn Close -- The World According to Garp {"Jenny Fields"}
Teri Garr -- Tootsie {"Sandy Lester"}
* Jessica Lange -- Tootsie {"Julie Nichols"}
Kim Stanley -- Frances {"Lillian Farmer"}
Lesley Ann Warren -- Victor/Victoria {"Norma"}
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:31 PM
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32. oh, I get it
I still remember what she was wearing when she walked up there to get it and now I understand why she didn't seem too thrilled.

Terri Garr's character in Tootsie:

"We are NOT friends, because I don't take this shit from my friends...only from lovers."

:rofl:
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:16 PM
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20. julia roberts (erin brockovich) over ellen burstyn (requiem for a dream)
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:18 PM
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21. Julia Roberts in anything
sooooooooo overrated. :eyes:
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:19 PM
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24. you're right, but 2000 was a particularly egregious example
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:59 PM
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42. Don't agree ...
I loved her in "Erin" and it's still is a stand out role for me. It was a great film and she was wonderful in that film.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:03 PM
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44. I wish they'd used an actress with more grit
Roberts is downright prissy compared to the real Erin, who comes across as very stoic, and tough, not flighty like Roberts. I think Helen Hunt might have been closer to the kind of woman Brockovich is...her character in "As good as it gets" is somewhat similar.

Julia is a mystery to me, just like Meg Ryan and Diane Keaton. They are the same in every role.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:41 PM
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37. I like Roberts, but that was a bad choice. nt
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:19 PM
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23. You could make the case for Elizabeth Taylor in 1960
For "Butterfield 8".

Look who she was competing against that year:

Elizabeth Taylor - BUtterfield 8 as "Gloria Wandrous"
Greer Garson - Sunrise at Campobello as "Eleanor Roosevelt"
Deborah Kerr - The Sundowners as "Ida Karmody"
Shirley MacLaine - The Apartment as "Fran Kubelik"
Melina Mercouri - Never on Sunday as "Ilya"

Shirley MacLaine was fabulous in "The Apartment"
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:22 PM
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26. i've never seen Butterfield 8, but MacLaine WAS dynomite in the Apartment
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:25 PM
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29. Yes, and Jack Lemmon and Fred MacMurray could have won for actor, supporting actor
Great, great performances in an all-time favorite classic. 13th floor, Miss Kubelik.
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:31 PM
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31. "Shut up and deal." n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:34 PM
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34. No SHIT!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:00 PM
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43. Um ...you were nomintated motherfukah!
Shut up!

:silly:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:45 PM
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39. One more...Reese Witherspoon last year....
in "Walk the Line"

Over Felicity Huffman in "Transamerica"???

I'm still shaking my head over that one.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:53 PM
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41. Thank YOU!
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:49 PM
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40. Well, I don't know if it was Best Actress or Best Supporting Actress,
but whenever Renee Zellweger won. She is horrid in everything. And at awards shows she's got this plastic smile pastedon and looks like she has slathered her face with Crisco.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:05 PM
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45. she is a strangely featured, strange looking person
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 10:28 PM by idgiehkt
For me she is very hard to watch.

lol, I read that as 'pas-teh-don' like a new kind of dinosaur, lol.

:rofl:
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