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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:24 PM Original message |
Top Five 'American' Novels? |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. My choices |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Road and Finn were in the running for my choices, as well. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 05:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Self-delete (sorry, replied to wrong post) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's a toughie but I'd go with these. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Scarlet Letter's a good one, especially in it's context as an 18th century response of sorts |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I guess I like rule breakers and this was a subversive work at the time. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. And, the neat thing about Fitzgerald and Morrison both was their ability to portray |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. If we could have six, I'd throw in "Their Eyes Were Watching God" |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. yes, Beloved is a great choice |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Main Street's a good one. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Loved Main Street |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. hmm ... today I'll say |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is subject to change |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Forgot about Updike. |
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Momgonepostal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think A Tree Grows in Brooklyn should be... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. That is a great question. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
64. I almost went with Lonesome Dove, but didn't, because it's mostly about |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I sure won't be arguing against NATIVE SON. On this thread is a list |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Yeah, I think I'll bookmark this one. Judging by the quality of most |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
15. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (Twain), The Red Badge of Courage (Crane)... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I have a suspicion that all the modernist novelists were - |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. I think a lot of the screamingly macho themes and personal behaviors... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I've never thought of it that way but you may be right. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Maybe because poetry had a diminished role by that time... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. It's impossible for me to be objective about the role of poetry |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. On Hemingway, I think many of his short stories were better than all but one of his novels. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Agree. And America is remarkable in its absent presence. n/t |
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yellowdogintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. I would add "Ragtime" by E L Doctorow that is one |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
17. Being a geek, I'm tempted to suggest... |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. GATSBY is the supreme novel about the American experience. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. It's the supreme novel about the contemporary American experience... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Gatsby's frame is male. It's only |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I am most definitely female, and I still enjoy the novel thoroughly and get its point. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. In order for it to "work" you have to be willing to celebrate |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. No, you don't have to be willing to celebrate them at all. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I'm not talking about the content, silly! |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If you're not talking about content, then what are you talking about? |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. *snort* |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The writing. See me edit above. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yes, but it was written in the early part of the 20th century |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Again, Rabrrrrrr, you are the voice of reason. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I was just reading your post, and I thought, "Wish I had said that". |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. LOL. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #47 |
98. pfftttttt!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. There were plenty of writers in that era that wrote as if others |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Yes, but those people were intentionally writing about the poor and underclass. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. No, I'm not dismissing it -- notice I included it on my short list? |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Bull-fucking-shit. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I think we read two different novels. n/t |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No, I don't think so. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You give Fitzgerald a lot more credit than I do -- maybe |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I'm sorry to say I'm not sure I get what you mean when you say |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Oh, that's all right. I just mean I don't think Fitzgerald was as |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. His public life was, indeed. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I've read a number of analyses using different critical theories. |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Yeah, that sort of comparative stuff is always entertaining. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. We've hijacked pinto's thread. What shall our penance be? |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. No books for a week. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I'm not THAT sorry! |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
82. NO! No! nO! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. We'd need a link to do that! |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. I'm not sure I completely agree with your summary, either. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Definitely. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. It's the Bushes versus the Clintons, isn't it? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
102. The word I couldn't find yesterday was "complicity". |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
71. Yes; for me, Fitzgerald was always the shopgirl with her nose pressed against... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. And he did that better than anyone. That was his gift. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. That's a really nice way to put it... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I think it may be true. I don't have American Lit studies under my belt |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
90. F. Scott Golightly?? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. LOL! |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. and at least middle class |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I haven't read Main Street and since so many of you rate it |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Main Street IS the great american novel |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Oh, this imperfect humanity thing. Can't live with it. |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
19. Moby Dick? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Faulkner, definitely. He's a list all by himself. |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. Huckleberry Finn and In Cold Blood n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
21. Good one.... |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. My five... |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. It's hard to narrow it down so I have 7 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Why did you include Little Women? I almost did. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
62. The Color Purple, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, Native Son, and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
63. One more list as my penance, pinto. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Jesus. If you arent a librarian in this life, I hope you return as one in the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Schama: Dead Certainties. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
79. Huckleberry Finn, Catch-22, To Kill A Mockingbird, Grapes of Wrath, Gatsby |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
83. Wow. Great list here... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. What's great about these lists is that I haven't read the fifth choice. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
86. Slaughterhouse-five; Catch-22, Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Painted Bird. |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
88. Here are mine |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Where did Shirley Jackson come from ? Was she an alien |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Another Jackson fan, I presume |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. I don't know much about her but read her collected works |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. have you read Poe's novel |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I read it a long time ago |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. that's one of my favorites too |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-18-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
91. 1. The Breast, Philip Roth |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
97. Obviously..... |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
99. I will start with Thoreau, Walden (1854), then move to |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-19-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
101. Gravity's Rainbow......Pynchon, 1973 |
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