When did Anne Rice become batshit insane?

[XemaSab]

PERSONAL ENDORSEMENT
OF HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT:
August 10, 2007

To my readers:

Some time ago, I made an effort to remove from this website all political statements made by me in the past. Many of these statements were incomplete statements, and many were dated. And a good many of the emails I received about these statements indicated that they were confusing to my newer Christian readers. I felt, when I removed the material, that I was doing what was best for my personal vocation --- which is, to write books for Jesus Christ.

My vocation at this time remains unchanged. I am committed to writing books for the Lord, and those books right now, are books about His life on Earth as God and Man. I hope my books will reach all Christians, regardless of denomination or background. This has become my life.

However, I have come to feel that my Christian conscience requires of me a particular political statement at this time.

I hope you will read this statement in a soft voice. It is meant to be spoken in a soft voice.

Let me say first of all that I am devoutly committed to the separation of church and state in America. I believe that the separation of church and state has been good for all Christians in this country, and particularly good for Catholics who had a difficult time gaining acceptance as Americans before the presidential election of John F. Kennedy. The best book I can recommend right now on the separation of church and state is A SECULAR FAITH, Why Christianity Favors The Separation of Church and State, by Darryl Hart. However there are many other good books on the subject.

Believing as I do that church and state should remain separate, I also believe that when one enters the voting booth, church and state become one for the voter. The voter must vote her conscience. He or she must vote for the party and candidate who best reflect all that the voter deeply believes. Conscience requires the Christian to vote as a Christian. Commitment to Christ is by its very nature absolute.

My commitment and my vote, therefore, must reflect my deepest Christian convictions; and for me these convictions are based on the teachings of Christ in the Four Gospels.

I am keenly aware as a Christian and as an American that the Gospels are subject to a great variety of interpretation. I am keenly aware that Christians disagree violently on what the Gospels say.

I am also keenly aware that we have only two parties in this country. Only two. This point can not be emphasized enough. We do not have a slate of parties, including one which is purely Christian. We have two parties, and our system has worked with two parties for generations. This is what we have.

I feel strongly that one should vote for one of these two parties in an election. I suspect that not voting is in fact a vote. I suspect that voting for a third party, when such parties develop, is in effect voting for one of the major parties whether one wants to believe this or not.

To summarize, I believe in voting, I believe in voting for one of the two major parties, and I believe my vote must reflect my Christian beliefs.

Bearing all this in mind, I want to say quietly that as of this date, I am a Democrat, and that I support Hillary Clinton for President of the United States.

http://www.annerice.com/

[tigereye]

1. I'm not sure that endorsing Hillary means that she is "insane"

as you put it.

Or is it her somewhat confusing rationale for this choice?

[mopinko]

2. i quit reading her books.

they were getting more stupid with each one. lasher was the last one i read. i had no idea she had gone fundie. but losing a kid can do that to you.

[China_cat]

3. Her daughter died before she started writing the vampire

novels. The fundie shit came after Blackwood Farm...which had about 3 1/2 readable pages out of about 300.

I think she just saw the money the badly written Left Behind series was making and didn't want to be 'left behind'.

[dropkickpa]

4. Yep

I wonder how her fundie readers interperet all the homoeroticism in the early vampire novels, or the Beauty books.

Batshit crazy indeed!

[HuffleClaw]

5. i thought it was her husband's death that was the cause of her renewed faith?

but she's always had some spiritual content to her books. i've no problem with this.

[terrya]

8. I think that's exactly the reason.

I have to admit, her latest book was somewhat of a departure. She's hardly a fundie.

But I have no problems with the spiritual component of her books.

And I'm glad she passed her writing talent to her son. Christopher Rice is an accomplished writer in his own right.

[SoCalDem]

29. I've never read her stuff, but I watched an interview once..and that was it.

he died and she got religion:shrug:

[Drunken Irishman]

11. A fundy, huh?

[cmkramer]

38. She isn't a fundie

Catholics are not and have never been fundamentalists.

[hippywife]

7. I didn't see anything

in this that indicated she's a fundie. Just because someone is a Christian doesn't make them a right wing fundie.

[billyoc]

6. She's rich. Who else would she endorse? n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

9. I don't see why this makes her insane at all...

Because she's a Christian? Or because she supports Clinton? Clearly she shares the same view as many DUers, the seperation of church and state. I guess you believe many here are batshit insane, too?

Look, I don't really like Hillary and don't think she'd do too well in the general election. But I would never call any of her supporters batshit insane. Just like I wouldn't call any of the Democratic candidate supporters batshit insane, either.

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. When she became a Super Christian. She had some kind of "transformation"

and became a fundy Christian loonjob.

I have no idea if the experience was legitimate, or if she was sitting around one day looking at her writing and realized that she was getting so shitty that her only hope was to repackage herself as a Christian writer, because the rightwing loon Christian wackjobs will buy anything that's shittily written.

It might have been a religious experience she had; it might have been an economic/talent realization. We'll never really know.

But whatever it was, her output since then has been complete batshit crazy.

[gmoney]

32. LOL

Yes, the writing/plot on "Left Behind" is so bad it was hard to even parody.

[MrScorpio]

12. I don't think that this implies that she's nuts

And frankly, I don't think that its wrong that she's had a religious conversion.

Lots of people have Road to Damascus moments all the time. Some people go all Kirk Cameron on us, others still have a lick of common sense in them. Anne seems to be one of the latter.

I find it refreshing to see a famous person of religious faith who still believes in the separation of church and state. Plus, she has ever right to vote her moral convictions, we all do that in some way, secular or other wise.

She's endorsing a Democrat, no harm in that.

Frankly, we should all admire her stand on both religious and political freedom. One less person calling for a Theocracy to control America is a friend to all of us.

[Drunken Irishman]

15. Bingo.

We need more liberal Christians, true Christians and I think the more Christians that show their support for liberalism, the better. Look, we're not going to win any election without at least some of the religious vote and many Democrats are in fact Christians. I know DUers would love to purge the party of Christians, but that would leave us with nothing.

[yellowdogintexas]

30. I agree: I don't think she's gone fundamentalist at all. For one

thing, most of the fundy groups are against separation of church and state..they want forced Christian prayers in the public schools, for one thing.

Darryl Hart, by the was is one interesting guy.

[ronnykmarshall]

13. So I guess I'm insane?

My parents? My friends?

What a crock of shit.

[terrya]

14. Man, that's going to be a problem if she's the nominee, eh?

I would think that voting for Mitt Romney would be a sign of insanity. But that's just me.

[ronnykmarshall]

16. I know.

We insane Hillary supporters might start seeing things at the voting booth and start smashing things.

[orleans]

28. (well, if you're seeing those DREs i would recommend you start

by smashing them first)

have you seen this?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=47351#top

and how was your day with hillary? if you posted on it i missed it. did you get a chance to talk with her?

[fishwax]

17. what's the batshit insane part?

:shrug:

[pitohui]

18. i think this is terrific

while i do think she is troubled and has a lot of grief in her life, let's be real, i don't see anything "batshit insane" in this blog entry

too many who turn to jesus to save them, turn to hate and to protecting their tax deductions, clearly rice has not allowed grief to twist her like that

a kind lady trying to do the right thing, i don't call that "batshit insane"

[Maine-ah]

19. I'd say when she wrote that kinky little story

of sleeping beauty.

Beauty is awakened from her hundred-year sleep by the Prince, not with a simple kiss, but with an initiation into a Satyricon-like world of sexual adventures. He takes her to his kingdom, ruled by his mother, the Queen, and Beauty is stripped naked and trained as a slave and a plaything. The rest of the naked slaves, dozens of them, in the Queen's palace are princes and princesses sent by their royal parents from the surrounding kingdoms as tributes. In this palace they spend several years learning to become obedient and submissive sexual property, accepting being spanked, being publicly displayed, crawling around on their hands and knees, servicing their masters and mistresses, until they return to their own lands "being enhanced in wisdom".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Claiming_of_Sleeping_Beauty

[uhhuh]

24. Sounds Just Like A Synopsis

Of a lot of biblical stories. It must be all the sex and violence that drew her into religion. The emphasis on submission is also very big in the bible. No shock to me...

[Maine-ah]

36. silly me

when I picked up the book I thought "oh, sleeping beauty".....roflmao...I got it home and started reading, my jaw must'a hit the floor...wow, there's a lot of stuff in there that you really would have to have one hell of a kinky imagination for.....:wow:

[ncabot22]

20. Probably when her husband died

and then she left New Orleans. California just does not agree with her.

[mitchum]

21. I don't know, but it was much later than her fans

[philosophie_en_rose]

22. At the moment she decided she was too good for an editor.

She can endorse whomever she likes, but I hope her ego deflates. Her books were actually good, when she bothered with editors.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

23. How is she insane?

She’s obviously had a religious transformation which has turned her into a devout Christian and she is dedicating out her life to reflecting her beliefs and principles. She’s obviously deeply committed to her faith and I think that is something to be respected

She still seems to be a liberal Christian and seems quite rational in her political beliefs and ideology. She endorses the separation of Church and State in American society and she accepts that the Gospels are subject to different interpretations and beliefs and is tolerant and understanding of that. She’s a Democrat and she supports Hilary Clinton –not the first candidate of choice for many here (including myself) –but still nevertheless a progressive Democrat whose husband delivered eight years of peace and prosperity while in office.

[frogcycle]

25. well, to all you who don't think she sounds nuts

I always though she was nuts back when she was writing the vampire shit. Whatever the rebirth or transformation or whatever she has gone through doesn't change my mind based on this particular writing. What's up with the "quiet voice" ?? Sounds like she's still a weirdo - but a christ-worshipping wierdo instead of a vampire-worshipping wierdo. Being Christian or endorsing Hillary doesn't make her insane, but the writing sure makes her a wierdo. I have this nagging suspicion that this conversion is a convenience to allow her to tap in to a different readership.

[BlueIris]

26. Well, I'm not going to call this sentence one that makes her insane, but:

"I am committed to writing books for the Lord..."

Um, okay Anne.

Last I read, she had openly re-embraced Christianity, but I had NO idea she had started writing stupid shit like this about her new "purpose," and being all "holier than thou" about it.

This endorsement reads like something a televangelist would have penned. Or rather, the ghostwriter for an illiterate wanna-be televangelist. I'm not saying she was ever a brilliant writer, but I used to perceive her as having a halfway functional intellect. Now, not so much. Well, unless this front is just a ploy to cash in on the popularity of "religious" writing, in which case, it's genius!!! I don't have the energy to put the sarcasm smile in this post.

[LeftCoast]

27. Hillary hate

I don't get it with republicans and I REALLY don't get it with Democrats.

:shrug:

[malta blue]

31. I think th OP is referring to the writing for the lord stuff,

not necessarily the Hillary hate - at least I hope so..:hi:

[Drunken Irishman]

33. Oh no, can't invoke the Lord I guess.

Or that automatically makes you batshit crazy. I guess FDR was one batshit crazy sonofabitch, eh?

[Dervill Crow]

34. "Whatever you do, in thought word or deed, do it for the Lord."

What's batshit crazy about that, especially if it leads her to be a Democrat?

I haven't read anything of hers in years or read anything about her, so maybe she is batshit crazy, but the quoted blog entry doesn't particularly evidence that.

[supernova]

35. Yes, she seems quite rational to me

[Drunken Irishman]

37. She's also a very big supporter of gay rights.

Her son, Christopher, is gay, and she's been an advocate for gay rights since he came out.

But I guess that makes her even more batshit crazy?

[Bryn]

39. She doesn't sound insane

Her opinions are mostly in agreement with DUers. As for her religion, it's her own path, her own journey.

[elshiva]

40. I don't read her books, but she is endorsing a Democrat.

If Hillary is nominated, I would vote for her.

Ann Rice is a Democrat who supports gay rights who is also Christian, so am I. Maybe saying writing books "for the Lord" sounds pretentious, but to me it is not. God's everywhere, the meaning of life is to seek union with the loving God.

As to jumping on the Left Behind wagon, maybe, again, I do not read her books, however I know she had a religious experience and felt like going back to being a Catholic.

"Let me say first of all that I am devoutly committed to the separation of church and state in America. I believe that the separation of church and state has been good for all Christians in this country, and particularly good for Catholics who had a difficult time gaining acceptance as Americans before the presidential election of John F. Kennedy."