Please set the safety to your flamethrower to "on"; then read this and respond

[sasquatch]

I listen to sports talk radio now because, I like talk radio and it's the only choice I have those rat bastards that run Clear Channel took away all the AAR channels in the state of Ohio because sure as shit don't want a repeat of what happened in Ohio in '06 to happen again in '08. Now some sports talk radio is damned good, Mike and Mike in the morning and the now defunct Dan Patrick show w/the Keith Olbermann + Dan Patrick "Big Show" power hour was just damned good talk radio. So I'm now my only choices are to listen to right hate speech, sports talk radio or come down with a severe case of schizphrenia on my commute to and from work.

The reason I wrote that is to explain a problem I see an a question I have. Why is it that so many African American atheletes, current aqnd former, are rushing to Michael Vick's defense and downplaying his role in dogfighting? Charles Barkley was trying to downplay it by comparing to the Mary Winkler situation in Tennessee and doing so ignoring the details of both cases. Mary Winkler was married to a controlling abusive religious fundamentalist rat bastard that had it coming to him in spades, Michael Vick was the ring leader of an enterprise that tortured and murdered innocent animals as it's MANIFEST FUNCTION. I believe Aaron McGruder has said it better that I ever could so here's a Youtube clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eWkPhxbN28

[sasquatch]

1. kick

:kick:

[XemaSab]

2. I think it says something really horrible about race in this country

that anytime a Black person is involved in a crime, either as the victim or the accused, there are going to be people who take sides based on race.

Witness OJ, the Duke "rape" case, Kobe... shit, even the Susan Smith case where no actual Black people were involved. :eyes:

Black people have gotten a shitty deal in this country, but just as it's wrong to convict innocent people, failue to censure the guilty isn't good either. :shrug:

[Connonym]

3. if one were to compare it to the Mary Winkler thing

wouldn't the analogy have to include the dogs killing Vick in self-defense? I'm astounded that anyone is defending him. I personally don't think I'll ever watch football again if they let him play again.

[flvegan]

4. Knee jerk reaction, I think.

[sasquatch]

8. You might have a point

[DS1]

5. The cynic in me says it's something about being 'hard as nails by association'

Defend someone for this, and yeah, you bad.

[sasquatch]

6. I love your sig line

[Redstone]

7. Fuck if I know. But I do understand why you'd ask. I'll be interested in

seeing the answers to your question.

Redstone

[idgiehkt]

9. it's a very bad road to go down for these guys

Not particularly with regard to Mary Winkler but with regard to other NFL athletes, or pro athletes in general, because it is making the NFL look like a prison-yard sports org. It's a stupid defense to be saying, 'well what about so and so that was arrested for sexual assault, he played ball again, and then their's that other dude that ran over that lady while driving drunk and killed her, he's still playing...' How stupid can you be. Eventually I think the NFL will politely ask people not to rattle off the offenses of every pro athlete in existence in order to garner sympathy for Vick, lol.

here is some of what I'm talking about:

Consider just some of the cases that escaped the former commissioner's wrath. In the 1990s, Christian Peter, then an All-Big Eight defensive tackle, was arrested eight times at Nebraska, where he was twice accused of rape — charges resulting in one out-of-court settlement and another conviction for sexual assault. Though the Patriots relinquished their draft rights to Peter, he would eventually play for three NFL teams.

Then there was Peter's Nebraska teammate, Lawrence Phillips, who pleaded to a brutal domestic abuse case before St. Louis took him with the sixth pick in 1996. Phillips would be arrested three times over the next 19 months. Later, the Dolphins would release him after he was accused of hitting a woman in a bar. Of course, that incident proved an insufficient deterrent for the 49ers who also gave him a shot.

Next, Rams defensive end Leonard Little. In 1998, while driving drunk, he ran a red light and killed Susan Gutweiler, a 47-year-old wife and mother. As per Little's plea deal, he got 90 nights in a work release program and 1,000 hours of community service. In 2004, Little beat another drunk driving case. Last year, he signed a new contract with St. Louis.

Jamal Lewis, a convicted drug trafficker, was suspended for all of two games.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7140818

What kind of moron thinks that this laundry list of felonies is gonna make Vick look like a sympathetic character? It's just gonna make the NFL look like a rehab program for criminals.

[sasquatch]

10. Yeah, listing other peoples crimes to make Vick look good is stupid

There's something though about animal torture and mutilation just seems horrible in comparrison to other crimes.

[poiuytsister]

11. Kind of off subject

but do you ever listen to NPR? I am a total junkie on it.

[sasquatch]

12. I recently moved and don't know what my affiliate is?

How does one find it, NPR's ok but Jesus does it HAVE TO BE A CONSTANT QUIET MONOTONE.