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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:37 PM
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A Child Called "It": One Child's Courage to Survive {have you read it?}
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:43 PM
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1. Yes I have.
And it's funny because my life is rather the opposite: Caring parents, a hostile society.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:49 PM
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3. I'm curious how you came to read that book. Did someone recommend it?
:hi:

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:58 PM
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6. A friend recommended it to me...
It's also an inspiration for one of the three books I am writing.

Though my autobiography will be a bit more in-depth... As much a learning guide as it is a sob story. Things to do and not to do so they don't end up emotionally crippled or worse; because it's NOT easy to overcome some things and end up acting as if nothing ever happened. (And I'd even show incidents where I was at fault. See, I don't want my book to have people accusing me I made everything up... (some of the negative comments on amazon were rather interesting; some of which would hold some weight too.))
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 06:07 PM
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22. hey you
I still want autographed copies.....


:hi: :hug: :hug:

lost
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:45 PM
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2. It's a devastating read.
Pelzer is an amazingly resilient human being.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:52 PM
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4. Daughter's Graymay gave it to her.
Her reaction is as close to an epiphany as I've ever seen.

Pelzer's life as an adult is remarkable.

:hi:

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 04:55 PM
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5. Yeah, I'm glad I read it.
Certainly gave me a new appreciation for my parents and how lucky I've been.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:00 PM
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7. wait...didn't we just have this discussion a couple weeks back...
and the conclusion was that the work was a hoax?

maybe i've got it confused w. another book?

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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:02 PM
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8. I don't know if it has been discussed here before.
:shrug:

I took it at face value.

Perhaps I have more to learn.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:05 PM
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9. nah maybe i've got it confused with another
i'll try to do a search in a minute but i'm terrible at search so appreciate corrections from the viewing audience as well :-)
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:12 PM
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10. the slate article is interesting in view of usa libel law
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 05:14 PM by pitohui
under usa law you cannot libel the dead

Everyone who could question (his stories)—his mother, father, and grandmother—has died.


and i'm uncomfortable with this:

Pelzer is magnificently free of the New Age spirituality that clogs so much self-help literature. He's Ayn Randian. He survived because of his own strength, not divine intervention. The only god he worships is the god of the self. Unfortunately, he worships it all too much. Pelzer is unspeakably self-congratulatory: "I'm the real deal." He reminds readers of every award: "Here I was, an Outstanding Young Person of the World." His other characters constantly tongue-bathe him: "You're the most inspirational person I know." His book "is one in a million." Everyone else speaks in "ain'ts" and dialect, but Dave always sounds like a Rhodes scholar. He exaggerates his accomplishments. He refueled planes during the Panama invasion and the Gulf War: This he describes as "play a major role in operations Just Cause, Desert Shield, and Desert Storm." He calls himself a "Pulitzer nominee," though he wasn't a Pulitzer winner or "nominated finalist." Someone may have submitted his book for the award, but by that standard, if you mailed this article to the Pulitzer judges, I would be a "Pulitzer nominee" too.


above cites from slate article printed here:

http://www.slate.com/id/90532

wiki sez that his brother doesn't agree that his story is true either, but wiki changes day to day so who knows

i think i'm going to reserve judgment on this guy, he has obviously found a multi million dollar cash cow in being "the child called it" and that squicks me a little so maybe i can't be fair



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S n o w b a l l Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:16 PM
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14. Are you thinking....
A Million Little Pieces by James Frey? That one did turn out to be fictional.

I'm pretty certain Dave Pelzer is not a hoax.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:19 PM
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15. yes i know frey has admitted that "a million little pieces" was a hoax
however there was a rash of hoaxes reported on at about the same time, hard to keep them all straight these days!

memoires, we're told, are not under oath and are not under any obligation to be true apparently!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:14 PM
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11. It appears that a few people have said it's a hoax
Supposedly referencing the NY Times Review of books as a source of the hoax claim.

But in my limited searches I can't see where the NYT Review has said that.

I think people might be confusing two different books with similar subject matter.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:45 PM
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16. Fact or fiction, it moved me.
:thumbsup:

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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:50 PM
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20. I wasn't part of the discussion, but I suspect the book is a hoax.
I remember when I first saw an interview of the author, and I was very moved by his story. I wanted to read the book so I did some research. Now I'm not really sure. I'm definitely not the only one.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:15 PM
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12. Haven't read it, but I've heard Pelzer speak
Incredible story. Absolutely incredible.

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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:46 PM
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17. My daughter's recommendation and enthusiastic praise sure brightened me.
:hi:

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:15 PM
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13. I've read the whole series. Incredible books.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:47 PM
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18. Nice post H . .
I agree.

:hi:

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LydiaJ Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 05:47 PM
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19. I've read it but it's curious how lukewarm the author is
to his brother who also writes a similiar account of abuse.

According to the younger brother, he was treated like any other boy until his brother (the one in "It") was taken away by Social Services. That, according to the boy (now grown) was when the mother started abusing him.

Perhaps the older boy couldn't or wouldn't picture his younger brother being abused as well. He gives a nice reveiw of his bother's book on the cover but that seems to be about it. The younger boy's work does seem a bit unpolished and it makes you wonder if he got the book published because of his brother.

Nonetheless, I think some awful abuse occurred and "It" was a moving account of that abuse.

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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 06:06 PM
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21. I will be honest
I couldn't get through the description of the book......
:cry: :cry: :cry:
so I doubt I will be able to read the book

thank you for telling us about it though......

another "there but for the grace of god go I" moment......


:pals:

lost
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 07:21 PM
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23. My daughter recommended it to me too.
I didn't find it uplifting. :cry:
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