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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:06 PM
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Spaghetti westerns
Why do I remember them as being kind of fun and silly? I picked up the 3-disc set of A Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly recently. Thought it might be entertaining.

My god, what a bore. Even the music isn't as entertaining as I remembered it. :boring:
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:08 PM
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1. What, really?
I loved those movies...just caught them all on TV earlier in the spring... not critical masterpieces of course but sort of mindlessly entertaining :)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:12 PM
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2. What a bore?!?! Those are some of the greatest westerns ever filmed,
and some of the best movies ever done in general!

Choke. Spit.

But if you mean by "bore" it has a story that takes its own pacing and doesn't have an edit every second to keep the sugar addicted kiddies' attention; or the kind of idiotic story that an American Idol fan's brain can actually understand and follow, then, yeah, they're boring.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:16 PM
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3. No, that's not what I mean
What I mean is poor acting, ridiculously long takes to set "mood" followed by overwrought and silly dialogue, absurd plot, jangling and instrusive music and tons of meaningless violence.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:54 AM
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19. Evidence for my theory that...
CSI Miami owes its soul to spaghetti westerns and that David Caruso should have developed a tick instead of the sunglasses thing.

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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:17 PM
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4. I wondered if Clint Eastwood ever talked.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:29 PM
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5. I liked the theme music so much that I bought a CD with them on it.
I didn't like the other music in the movies that I got along with the themes, but I thought those themes were tops.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 09:35 PM
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6. They were breakthrough then, they are breakthrough now.
Don't you even THINK of dissing ol' Rowdy Yates- er, I mean Dirty Harry- um, I mean the Nameless Horseman who is Clint.

I don't wanna come up outta here, but I will if I have to.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:09 PM
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7. I love Spaghetti Westerns.
The mood,the music,the action,the acting. All of it. Ennio Morricone soundtracks are awesome.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:14 PM
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8. I fucking LOVE Sergio Leone's work.
Diss it and risk my unstoppable fury.
Or something.
I think 'Once Upon a Time in the West' is his masterpiece, overall.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:19 PM
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10. Once Upon a Time in the West final showdown
I could watch this a hundred times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErtRKdpncyk
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:23 PM
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11. Frank's theme...perhaps my favorite movie theme ever. However my favorite scene from this one is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVdMDnTNmg
Frank establishing himself as an evil SOB
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:30 PM
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13. I can remember Frank's cold snake killer eyes when he shoots the boy.
Fonda nailed it.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:14 PM
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9. Boring? Boring?!?! Boring?!?!?!?!
First they attack George Lucas, and now it's open season on Sergio Leone! Bloody Sergio "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"/"Once Upon A Time In The West"/"A Fistful of Dynamite" Leone!

What, were Lucifer, Raphael and Sophia bored when Yahweh lifted the continents from the sea?

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:27 PM
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12. I think the Spaghetti western were the best made
Which I think is ironic that are biggest contribution to art is mastered by foreign nationals.
:shrug:
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:42 PM
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14. That's crazy talk.
There actually were a whole ton of truly cheap and awful spaghetti westerns made. But those three are pretty much the justification for the entire genre. I like them much more than the old Hollywood westerns.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:47 PM
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15. try "My name is Trinity" with Terrence Hill
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:02 AM
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16. One scene makes the whole movie worthwhile
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 12:03 AM by bob_weaver
In "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly," the scene where Tuco has a conversation with his brother (the priest) justifies the designation of this movie as a "classic." Without that scene, it would be just another Western, for me anyway, although a mostly entertaining one - it's almost a comedy at some points. One friend of mine has watched "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" more than 70 times.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:08 AM
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17. Well, if you don't want'em, just PM them over to me
There's a slot on the computer that will suck it through the Series of Tubes right to my computer! Just ask Ted Stevens!!!

:-)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:17 AM
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18. I find them fascinating.
The completely break the mold of what came before. The opening scene of Fist Full od Dollars sets the tone for the whole film. The "hero" comes to town wearing a brown hat (moral ambiguity), on a mule instead of a horse, wearing a poncho instead of a shirt and vest and doing nothing after seeing the kid harassed. It's a role John Wayne never would have taken.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:39 AM
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20. Just about the only westerns worth watching, IMHO.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:44 AM
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21. Sergio Leone
I recently saw Once Upon a Time in the West again. As a kid, spaghetti westerns were cool. But this one though having some good bits seemed ponderous. Now 40 years later, it wasn't slow at all. A work of art.

After sampling his others on YouTube, I've decided to rewatch those. I like the style and artistry.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:02 PM
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24. That was his masterpiece.
With that soundtrack by Morricone.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:11 PM
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22. blondeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 12:21 PM
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23. There's too many spaghetti westerns and not enough
lasagna westerns.
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