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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:05 AM
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The Freeper argument goes on. Will this guy ever give up?
Check this out:


Yes, the rich benefitted from the tax cuts. Who the hell do you think creates the jobs? The answer is the Rich. Besides, the wealthiest one percent of Americans pay 34% of all income taxes to the federal government. President Bush now discusses weapons programs, because the possibility exists that the actual weapons were shipped out after the conflict began. Canada's universal healthcare systemis suffering the same kind of problems that Britain's is. As for the drugs, the high price here is because of research expenditure. Fixing the prices of the drugs would mean that research would be slowed substantially. As for North Korea, we saw what Bill Clinton's brilliant idea was. That's probably why North Korea has an arsenal. The difference in response, as far as the Bush administration goes, its use of different approaches to Iraq and North Korea rest upon their respective neighborhoods. North Korea has neighbors which can jointly push for North Korea's disarmament because it is in the interest of that neighborhood. As for Iraq, as long as tyrrany persisted in Iraq, the neighbors did not have to budge, and give their populations more rights, but a prosperous, democratic Iraq will only cause positive change in that region of the world.
What would you propose that the U.S. do after september eleventh? Sit around and make friends with people who HATE us? That makes alot of sense. Then again, you probably think that the Massad was responsible for September eleventh.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:11 AM
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1. He's bought all of the lies. Not much you can do.


His arguement about "research expenditures" ignores the fact that tax payers are shouldering the burden of the research in the first place.

And his WMD BS is ignoring Powell and Rice in 2001 saying that Saddam was effectively disarmed. That isn't even debateable. They just flat out lied.

And a prosperous, democratic Iraq? LOL!

This guy sounds like an entrenched nutcase, no point in arguing with him.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:15 AM
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2. You are probably right, but I will drive my point one last time.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:27 AM
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3. My analysis
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 12:31 AM by NightTrain
<<Yes, the rich benefited from the tax cuts.>>

Thank you for admitting to that.

<<Who the hell do you think creates the jobs?>>

Err...employers?

<<The answer is the Rich.>>

Who then ship those jobs off to Mexico, China, India, or wherever else they can find cheap labor and a complicit government.

Besides, if you look at the statistics compiled by Bush's own labor Department, you will find that the lion's share of jobs are created not by the obscenely wealthy, but by small business owners. They're the ones who both need and deserve tax breaks, along with the people they employ.

<<Besides, the wealthiest one percent of Americans pay 34% of all income taxes to the federal government.>>

But at one time, they paid a hell of a lot more than that because at one time, we had a government that figured the filthy rich could ante up 70% or so of their annual income to Uncle Sam and still live comfortably. Then along came Reagan and.... Well, you know the rest.

<<President Bush now discusses weapons programs, because the possibility exists that the actual weapons were shipped out after the conflict began.>>

:wtf: is he talking about? Was a sentence or two inadvertently deleted from that paragraph?

<<Canada's universal health care system is suffering the same kind of problems that Britain's is.>>

You wouldn't care to run those problems down for me, would you?

And besides, even if Canada's national health care system isn't perfect: SO FUCKING WHAT? At least Canada *has* national health care, which is more than its neighbor to the south can say.

If we wait until we find an absolutely perfect alternative to what we have now, then America will never have national health care! Of course, that may just be what the drug companies and the politicians they own are counting on....

<<As for the drugs, the high price here is because of research expenditure. Fixing the prices of the drugs would mean that research would be slowed substantially.>>

Pure, uncut bullshit! The vast majority of research and development of new drugs is paid for by Uncle Sam, who then sells the patent to the prescription drug cartels at ridiculously low prices. The reason America's prescription drugs cost so goddamned much is that the drug companies can be as selfish and greedy as they like, and the politicians they own won't lift a finger to stop them.

<<As for North Korea, we saw what Bill Clinton's brilliant idea was.>>

Care to refresh my memory? I can't seem to recall what Clinton's brilliant idea was. Help me out here, will you please?

<<That's probably why North Korea has an arsenal. The difference in response, as far as the Bush administration goes, its use of different approaches to Iraq and North Korea rest upon their respective neighborhoods.>>

Well, that and the fact that North Korea isn't sitting on shitloads of oil. Oh, and that if North Korea really does have nuclear weapons, well, it can use them to nuke the fuck out of us.

<<North Korea has neighbors which can jointly push for North Korea's disarmament because it is in the interest of that neighborhood.>>

And are those "neighbors" doing so? Because I haven't heard a bloody thing in that regard!

<<As for Iraq, as long as tyranny persisted in Iraq, the neighbors did not have to budge, and give their populations more rights, but a prosperous, democratic Iraq will only cause positive change in that region of the world.>>

Ah, yes! A prosperous, democratic Iraq whose people take up arms and kill their liberators. They must really love us over there, huh?

<<What would you propose that the U.S. do after september eleventh?>>

Oh, I don't know. Perhaps rethink its place in the world and try to be less belligerent and arrogant? Perhaps take full advantage of the goodwill that almost every country of the world extended to us following 9/11, and use that goodwill as a springboard to building a just and peaceful world for all six billion of its people?

Nah, fuck that! Let's just bomb us some towelheads.

<<Sit around and make friends with people who HATE us? That makes alot of sense.>>

It only makes sense if you follow the teachings of Jesus.

<<Then again, you probably think that the Massad was responsible for September eleventh.>>

First of all, Einstein, the Israeli intelligence agency's name is spelled "Mossad." And why would Israel ever perpetuate such an atrocity against its most loyal and powerful ally? Such a move on Israel's part would have been pure stupidity.

Think, man, think! Or is that too much to ask of a conservative?
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:41 AM
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5. Not bad
Best line: "It makes sense if you follow the teachings of Jesus"

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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:37 AM
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4. Free Republic obviously has no spell check
and the guy does no research
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