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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:37 PM
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What the worst episode of Star Trek: Voyager?
My vote goes to Threshold.

What were they thinking?

In the old series if you hit Warp 10 the ship blows up. In TNG warp 10 wasn't too big a deal. In Voyager hitting Warp 10 would cause you to be everywhere in the universe at once and then you would then turn into a horny salamander with an unquenchable urge to replicate.
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:39 PM
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1. Voyager Just sucked.....
It was WAAAAAAY to PC.
Chick Captain,
Native American side kick
Black Vulcan,
Hispanic Klingon
The hot chick was a walking computer,

everyone was good,
except the drunken good for nothing white guy.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:56 PM
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12. good point, nice analysis
Could put it this way:

Female, brass balls, captain
Indian first officer
black vulcan
latino klingon/engineer
asian science officer

the other white female - either compassionate (kes) or super brain (7)
2 white men
one is smart, relatively nice, enlightened - too bad he doesn't exist
the other - renegade, ex-con, drunk,
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:34 PM
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17. damn good insight on the doctor....
The only good white guy was a artificial creation,
nice.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:36 PM
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18. Hey, at least they killed off the Betazoid counselor in the first episode.
That was a good thing! I don't know if I could handle another 7 years of:

Security Officer: The shields are down to 10 percent, Captain. We can't take another hit!

Counselor: I sense hostility from the other ship, Captain.


Duh! You think?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:40 PM
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2. The one where the Enterprise encounters Amelia Earhart
I swear that was an episode. All I know is that I thought it was supremely silly.

I didn't watch too many "ST-V", btw.

Terry
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:50 PM
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10. Same here
Last episode I ever watched.

I was a devoted Deep Space Nine watcher, when the Voyager series came out at the same time slot (on another channel).

I gave Voyager a shot until the Earheart episode came out. I gave up after that.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:41 PM
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3. I agree w/Threshold
"Giant Space Lizards!" indeed.

Others in the running: The '37s (Amelia Earhart?); Elogium (Kes goes into heat); Cold Fire (Bad! Bad CGI!)...
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:10 PM
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34. me also
although the final ep sucked large
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:41 PM
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4. All of them.
The series just plain sucked big time.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:42 PM
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5. The one where ...
Q tried to seduce Janeway. Totally unrealistic ... everyone knows it was Picard he wanted! ;)

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:43 PM
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6. Kate Mulgrew....
I like her, but...

That voice of hers. It sounded like she took a big swallow of helium or something.

Terry
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:44 PM
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7. She sounded like Katherine Hepburn to me.
I kinda liked her.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:47 PM
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9. She is Playing Hepburn in a one woman show called "Tea at Five"
I saw it here in Hartford Stage and she was awesome. She played Kate in both 1938, and 1983, and when it's 1983 after intermission, when she turns around you swear she IS Kathrine Hepburn.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:47 PM
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8. I Loved Them All
Even though I knew it would eventually come to and end, I was sorry to see it leave the air.

-- Allen
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:51 PM
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11. They had their moments, but a lot of time the plots were threadbare...
And every time something dramatic and important would happen, they would always end up hitting the giant reset button at the end.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:58 PM
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13. What happened at the end of the series?
I never made it... did they make it home? Or were they all killed in a ball of flames? Or was the whole thing a dream? :D
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:33 PM
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16. Oh, they made it home, but it was anti-climatic.
I was hoping they would make it home about 5 episodes before the end of the series to see how the crew would cope and see Janeway defend herself against the various violations of the Prime Suggestion.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:04 PM
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14. The Year Of Hell (or something like that)
was a good example of that what you speak.

I like that B'Lana finally found a pair of tweezers and softened her look after the first season. Neelix just cracked me up. I thought Seven-of-Nine was a much more interesting character than Kess was.

And even though Tom Paris was good looking, I always drooled over Harry Kim.

-- Allen



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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:32 PM
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15. I was more of a Chakotay person myself.
And of course my biggest gripe was with the last movie. Janeway came back to Earth with about 15 different new technologies and yet none of it was implemented by the next movie even though they were able to to totally refit Voyager with that nifty Borg resistant armor while in the Delta quandrant in a month or so without access to a drydock or starbase, but they couldn't find time to do the same for the rest of the fleet when Voyager got back?
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:47 PM
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20. I Think The Operative Mantra Is: "Suspend Disbelief"
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 03:48 PM by arwalden
But you're right about that!!

I always like'd Chakotay's tattoo. --- I laugh whenever I recall that episode where Q was competing for Janeway's affections. In it Q commented on Chakotay's tattoo and said "but mine's bigger"... then turned his face for the camera to see and it was tattooed ALL OVER in the same style as Chakotay's.

-- Allen


P.S. I've seen Robert Beltran in other movies and I always feel like something is "missing". He looks odd WITHOUT his tattoo.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:02 PM
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23. Suspend Disbelief was also the Mantra of the episode "Spirit Folk"
The one where they more worried about fixing the holodeck without destroying the fantasy Fair Haven folks they created than making sure the entire ship didn't blow up.

The worst moment ever was when the Fair Haven folk shoot the computer terminal in the holodeck with holographic bullets and the computer happily announces in response "Holodeck Safety Protocols have been disabled".

What? If they were enabled, then the holographic bullets shouldn't have hurt the terminal at all in order to disable them!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 05:19 PM
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28. NO NO NO! The Safety Protocols Were Only To Protect The Crew...
... forget about protecting the ship. No, wait... that means that any projectile would have gone through walls... no... okay... it's like this... if the bullet had reached the physical limits of the holodeck then it would have automatically disappeared... no, that's not right.

Uh... okay... suspend disbelief.

I got a kick out of the WWII episode with the French Resistance and nobody but Janeway realizing that it was a game/simulation for the Hirojen (Herogin?)

-- Allen

P.S. Were Jeri Ryan's boobs real? Or did they pad her costume? I mean... if *I* notice her buxom figure, then it's definitely worth noticing, right?
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:45 PM
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19. Amen, Allen.
I was always a Harry Kim fan. Although give Icheb a few more years and I'd have been drooling over him.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:56 PM
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22. Yup!
I always feel a little weirded-out in spotting hunk-potential in teen actors. But he was definitely one to watch.

-- Allen (Searching for his Shawn Cassidy "Tiger Beat" magazine.)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:49 PM
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21. That stupid-ass one about the race
where Paris wore that white uniform.

I can't tell you much more about it because I turned it off and flushed the memories from my datacore...

:evilgrin:
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:24 PM
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24.  Far and away, "Ashes to Ashes," here is why:
Ensign Lyndsay Ballard turns up three years after her 'death'; turns out she had been found among space debris and put back together by the Kobali. Harry Kim and her hit it off quite nicely, turns out
he had a crush on her in the past. They get cozy and start
porking (thank God because Harry Kim was getting frisky as a biscy).
Well, as luck would have it, the Kobali locate this woman and want her back. The woman wishes to stay with Kim. After a brief impasse
the Kobali fire on Voyager - Big Time.

Now here is the pisser... Janeway allows the Kobali to almost
destroy Voyager without returning fire. At this time Ensign Ballard
has clearly indicated she would prefer to stay with the crew
of Voyager (remember, she was in fact a member of that crew)
and still Janeway allows the Kobali to engage in deadly fire
unabated. WHAAAT!?! In the end the ensign decides she is more Kobali than human and decides to go with the
Kobali, but not until AFTER Voyager is almost destroyed.
In doing so Janeway failed to protect a crew member from what
at the time clearly looked like an attempted abduction!!!!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:40 PM
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25. Not to mention the ick factor of reproduction by grave robbery
How the hell does that evolve?
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:45 PM
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26. The episode where Seska car-jacked Voyager out from under Janeway.
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 04:46 PM by Vitruvius
I'd never want any relative of mine serving under someone as inept as Janeway. (I like Mulligrew -- too bad she was saddled with playing an idiot...)

B/t/w, Seska was a great "bad girl" -- I regretted it when they finally killed her off.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:59 PM
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27. There were a few that I didn't care for but...
...generally speaking I looked forward to each episode.


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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 05:27 PM
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29. any of them when they spend the whole hour in the holodeck...
especially the one where the kazon take over the ship and force the crew to go through WWII simulations, because its just so predicitble...

-LK
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 05:40 PM
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30. Bride of Chaotica
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 05:43 PM by Mobius
Threshold was weird, yes. But was it truly the worst? After a nanosecond of precognition, I am forced to logically conclude that Bride of Chaotica WAS THE ABSLOUTE WORST!
WHICH STARFLEET CAPTAIN ARE YOU?
http://quizilla.com/users/shagadellique/quizzes/Which%20Starfleet%20Captain%20Are%20You%3F

I think you might enjoy that quiz, It gives you a snippet at the end to post your results with pic in here, Nice long answers, very funny! Im gonna go and tell you who I get LOL
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 08:58 PM
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31. I LOVED Voyager far more than de-pressed Nine!
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 09:00 PM by Cannikin
The show really picked up after Seven of Nine came on. The DVD box sets go on sale next month. I plan to waste hard earned money on them.

But the worste episode has to be 'Threshold'. And I didnt care for any 'trapped in the holodeck' episode of any series! Those damn things are dangerous!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:14 PM
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36. DS9's last two seasons were outstanding.
The whole Dominion war was a great idea and it was pretty good for the most part.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:07 PM
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32. All of them!
That was a waste of the Trek name and lots of production money.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:09 PM
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33. personally
I didn't like the episode when the crew suddenly discovers they're all poorly made copies of each other, and they all disintrigrate and perish while trying to make it to some faraway planet
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 PM
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35. Threshold sucked...but the worst had to be the final episode
after 7 seasons of trying to get back to earth...we saw all of four seconds of their return...HORRIBLE! What were they thinking??
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:17 PM
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37. Yeah. And what was with B'Elanna and Tom? How in the heck can those
two be married? Frankly, there was more chemistry between
Tom and Chakotay. :)

Ah, slash. The other channel. ;)
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 10:22 PM
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38. TRUE!
And THEN they decided to pair Chakotay with Seven....ANOTHER bad choice!

They just really sucked at that show...they just couldn't figure out what worked and what didn't.
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