Here's a stunner: Men tend to choose women based on looks

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/540800,CST-NWS-dating04.article

STUDY | Women's idea of their own beauty affects their choices

September 4, 2007
BY RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

WASHINGTON -- Science is confirming what most women know: When given the choice for a mate, men go for good looks.
''Just because people say they're looking for a particular set of characteristics in a mate, someone like themselves, doesn't mean that is what they'll end up choosing,'' said Peter M. Todd of the cognitive science program at Indiana University.

Researchers led by Todd report today on their study involved 26 men and 20 women in Munich, Germany.

Participants ranged in ages from 26 to their early 40s and took part in ''speed dating,'' short meetings of three to seven minutes in which people chat, then move on to meet another dater.

In the study, participants were asked before the session to fill out a questionnaire about what they were looking for in a mate, listing such categories as wealth and status, family commitment, physical appearance, healthiness and attractiveness.


Slow news day?

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Who funded this study? I have few things...

I'd like to study, too.

(Was it the same ones who funded the Rock Stars Die Early study?)

[MorningGlow]

7. Series!

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a rash of stupid "blow millions of dollars analzying the obvious" studies in the past few weeks? This one, the rock stars one, and another I heard about on Stephanie Miller this morning (well, hosted by Elayne Boosler today :( )--women are more interested in kissing than men are. NooOOoooo...

[Pierre.Suave]

66. pfffttt

not me, I LOVE, LOVE LOVE kissing my GF. Head to toe and everywhere inbetween... :evilgrin: I LOVE kissing her.

[MorningGlow]

70. Good for you, sir!

:applause:

That is as it should be. But apparently the majority of males are more interested in "cutting to the chase", knaamean?

[Pierre.Suave]

72. Meh

there is a reason I am god... :evilgrin:

[MorningGlow]

76. No shit--god? Are we related?

'Cause I'm a goddess! :evilgrin:

[Pierre.Suave]

80. You may be

but I sure treat my GF as one.

[MorningGlow]

81. Once again, and with gusto...

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Pierre.Suave]

83. thats nothing

you should see her response...:evilgrin:

on second thought, maybe you shouldnt.

[liberaldemocrat7]

90. Yes a lot of men go after women who look attractive minmally to high level

however such women, even minimally attractive realize they appear attracive enough and the demands such women make appear inflated. Demands? Money, looks, socialization, status, car, etc.

If women find men judging them on looks annoying, picture men having to deal with the multiple demands of minimally attractive women in this society and believe me "liberal" women do this just as well as the "conservative" women.

My experience tells me that a lot of so called liberal women exercize compassion in their work, but when it comes to their love life, such liberal women might as well appear conservative.

[NewJeffCT]

12. My favorite survey

is the one that comes out every few years that states "binge drinking is popular on college campuses"

[Auggie]

67. Years ago a focus group told my stone fruit client that peaches were

"juicy" and "tasted good."

[supernova]

2. Honestly, it was depressing

for me to read that. I know, in a practical sense it's true. We all joke about it all the time.

But as a middle-aged women who is still hoping to find a rewarding relationship, to have it thrown in my face with the backing of "science" was hard to take.

[redqueen]

5. yup... that's why i just give up!

:bounce:

[supernova]

9. But, But.... you're beautiful!!

:bounce:

[redqueen]

14. you're far too kind

:blush:

thank you :)


that said, i do disagree vehemently. based on how often i get hit on, i'd say i have a point. :hi:

[billyskank]

15. So explain me this then

why do I fancy the arse off you? :P

:loveya:

[redqueen]

20. Ummmmmm...

cause you're a loony?

;)

:loveya:

[billyskank]

21. Undoubtedly, but also irrelevant.

I am not a blind loony. :*

[alarimer]

11. I feel the same way

Even though I know from personal experience that it is true. I can have a good email thing going on but as soon as I send my picture or we meet in person, it's over with. Every single time. I am alone and lonely; I don't know how much more I can take of the constant rejection. Makes me feel pretty worthless- I have almost completed a Masters, I have a good job, etc., etc. Whatever good qualities I have do not matter- I am not a looker. I am short, maybe a little overweight but I work out so I am healthy, I do not dress to the nines and I do not wear makeup. Oh well.

[Thirtieschild]

86. Don't give up, alarimer. There are keepers out there.

My daughter had a four-year snail mail correspondence with a writer in England. When she finally confessed to him that she hadn't sent a photo because she was overweight, he sent her a box of chocolates and a photograph of a Reubens painting. They married when she was 40 and still overweight, live in Yorkshire now, have two young sons.

[alarimer]

88. Oh I know

I just kind of doubt it sometimes.

But that study may not be too accurate either, since it was based on speed-dating. I would never be good at that, since I am kind of shy. I need someone who is willing to take a little more time than that. I suppose THAT is the real issue, not the way I look or don't look.

[pitohui]

106. why not get a make-over?

you say: I am short, maybe a little overweight but I work out so I am healthy, I do not dress to the nines and I do not wear makeup. Oh well.


i am short too, so what, while we may not like it, GUYS DON'T CARE if you are short

"maybe" a little overweight -- or maybe you are not a little overweight -- maybe you are just fine except you have a natural woman's curves you've been taught to hate by nicole ritchie

the problem i see is you dress poorly and you don't wear make-up, this sends a message of "i don't care about myself and i am suffering from depression" = which guys read as "disturbed chick, watch out"

i am not pretty and i'm probably a good deal older than you, and i'm short as hell, and i have a plain face to put it nicely, plus i have severe personality deficits which we won't address here
:-) however, if you dress a certain way and put on make-up, even if you are plain, it sends a message that you care about yourself and that in itself is attractive to plenty of men, to the point where they can become a nuisance


seriously, it may sound silly, but why not get a make-over and see where you stand, you might be surprised?

i know it feels silly, like playing dress-up, but they have to judge you from what they see since they can't get in your head -- and what you're showing them now is "i don't care, i won't dress nicely, i won't make up my face, i'm just depressed"

depressed animals don't groom themselves, but healthy ones do -- and the laws of attraction are deeply rooted in our past as animals, like it or not

[alarimer]

111. Well I have never been into that

I am not about to do something that isn't "me". Because people can tell when you are putting on a "show". It would be false. When I wrote that other message, I was maybe a little down. But mostly I figure that if a guy does not like me the way I am, they can go fuck themselves. I am not going to change myself in any way just to please someone else. I am not everyone's cup of tea, maybe, I can deal with that. For one thing, I am much smarter than most of them. Again, too damn bad. I am not dumbing myself down for anyone. I've lived long enough to know that you cannot change another person and you cannot (or at least should not) change yourself for another person). Call me set in my ways but that's just too bad.

Believe I have had enough dates where I knew I never wanted to see them again either because a) they were too stupid for me or b) a republican, redneck asshole. Far too many in both categories exist in this town. I need to move.

All I really need to do is buy my own boat. Seriously, because I live in a coastal town where water sports are extremely popular, I could really reel them in, so to speak, if I just learned how to fish and bought a boat. Well I know how to fish but I don't do it because I deal with fish all the time in my day job (marine biologist-seriously).

[DarkTirade]

119. I actually prefer women who don't wear makeup.

I like to know what a woman ACTUALLY looks like. :)

[billyskank]

27. But but but

who says you AREN'T beautiful?

(I think you are. And I would).

Also I do try to remember that not all people agree on who is a looker and who isn't. And I thank God for that fact.

[grace0418]

30. That wasn't as depressing as the "scientific" study about obesity being "contagious"

Thank maude I'm well past high school age. But it killed me to think of all the additional abuse chubby teenagers are going have heaped on them from snotty kids who don't want to "catch" fat from them. High school is hard enough without having science giving kids additional excuses to be mean to each other. Why don't they just come out with a study that says "Scientists have discovered that the richest, prettiest girl in school really *is* better than you in every way! Kill yourself now and get it over with!"

[GoddessOfGuinness]

84. But wait a minute...

Who's to say there isn't a man who likes the way you look?

People are attracted to foods which taste good to them, right? So some people like olives and others don't.

Don't assume that because you don't fit the TV image of beautiful, nobody thinks you're beautiful. Not every man buys into that crap.
:hug::hug::hug:

[LSdemocrat]

3. Using "speed dating" seems to be a questionable way of measuring this

What else can you really base a decision on after "three to seven minutes" per person?

[Orsino]

52. Misleading story.

Sampling a speed-dating session is not a way to measure preferences for "a mate."

[raccoon]

120. Betcha Ted Bundy could've created a good impression in 3-7 minutes! nt

[skygazer]

4. It's biological

People equate good looks with good health. Good health indicates good reproductive ability. Which we're hardwired to seek. It amazes me that someone would feel the need to do a study to determine that.

Women are hardwired to seek mates capable of supporting offspring. That doesn't equate to good looks as much as it does financial success.

Biology.

[billyskank]

32. But

how does biology explain witches?

[pokerfan]

98. But

how does biology explain anorexic supermodels? They don't look very healthy to me.

[pitohui]

107. that isn't biology, that's sociology

anorexic supermodels are not supposed to look healthy, they are supposed to look expensive, which believe me, an eating disorder is certainly expensive

sort of like an $19,000 watch

some things aren't about biology, they're about conspicuous consumption

[RandomKoolzip]

110. That's subjective. To some, they look quite healthy.

[pokerfan]

113. The biological argument was that we are hardwired

to prefer a mate who is at minimum healthy enough to bear a child.

We can be conditioned to prefer all sorts of attributes, even the bizarre, but this subthread was about the biological aspect.

[RandomKoolzip]

116. Well, it seems as though your assumption is that skinny women

must appear biologically incapable of bearing children to the universal male mind, and only social conditioning allows for denial of this instinctual knowledge. What I am positing is that the knee-jerk refusal of many to see skinny supermodel types as attractive is based in social conditioning as well, and is mainly a reactionary development against an oppressive culture industry rather than some sort of "return of the repressed." I don't think males are hardwired to seek out overweight women with whom to mate but have found this biological imperative thwarted by culture en masse. I think a male's choice of mate is based more in physical symmetry rather than weight or body shape.

Than again, I HAVE had a lot of cough syrup tonight and may just be talking outta my ass. You be the judge.

[pokerfan]

117. Well

since I lost a family member 23 months ago to anorexia, I'm probably not the most objective person to be having this convo.

So I guess I will just drop it.

[RandomKoolzip]

118. There's a galaxy of difference between skinny and anorexic.

I'm very sorry about your relative. I struggled with bulimia for several years as well and have been stricken with all sorts of health problems because of it. Eating disorders are nothing to scoff at, and having been enslaved to one myself, I know that the pressure to be skinny can be oppressive.

However, I've always found women who are not overweight attractive (as well as many women who are) and it's only recently that I've encountered pressure from people I respect to feel guilty about it. Is it really so strange, though, to think Adriana Lima is more attractive than Camryn Mannheim? I'm married to an overweight woman, too, and I honestly find women all over the weight spectrum attractive. I believe that it really comes down, biologically, to the appearance of symmetry and proportionality rather than a single, universal attraction to a single body type.

[LSK]

6. NO WAY!!!!

WHO KNEW!!!!

[billyskank]

36. I have the proof right here.

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"

[LSK]

42. Goodnight!!!

:hi:

[XemaSab]

100. Both of you crack me up

:loveya:

[idgiehkt]

60. for real

both my brothers did. I think if they'd aimed lower in the looks dept they might have made better choices. It sucks.

[grasswire]

8. this part is interesting

"The scientists said women were aware of the importance of their own attractiveness to men, and adjusted their expectations to select the more desirable guys.

''Women made offers to men who had overall qualities that were on a par with the women's self-rated attractiveness. They didn't greatly overshoot their attractiveness,'' Todd said, ''because part of the goal for women is to choose men who would stay with them.''

[supernova]

10. So, the attractiveness

of the guy we pick is a direct expression of how attractive we think we are?

[NewJeffCT]

16. yes, that is what they are saying

I've heard similar from other surveys in the past. In a social situation, guys will tend to start with the most attractive woman in the room and work their way down until they find a woman who will say "yes"

Women, on the other hand, tend to zero in on men that are around their general level of attractiveness.

Of course, there are exceptions to every rule - like Anna Nicole and that 90 year old guy, or my wife & me!

[billyskank]

37. Yes who could understand what Anna Nicole saw in that 90 year old guy.

It is a very great mystery.

[NewJeffCT]

38. I know

I was being semi-sarcastic there.

[Orrex]

18. Then my wife must think that she's unbelievably stunning!

(And she'd be right IMO!)

[supernova]

23. LOL!

:D

[idgiehkt]

61. I've always known that

not necessarily with regard to what males women choose but I've known more than a few girls/women who think they are 'all that' when speaking in terms of strict attractiveness, they aren't, not at all. It used to be called "throwing a glamour" on someone, when a person's charm/charisma/self-confidence/personality makes others think they are more physically attractive than they really are.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

79. Sure as hell I'm that way with women

For some reason, I can never see myself with a conventionally 'hot' woman. I may think they're smokin, but I just don't see it happening.

I tend to gravitate more toward the 'cute' type.

[wildhorses]

13. ummm --

no.shit :eyes:

[billyskank]

17. So what do women choose men based on?

Somebody please tell me, because I think I really need to know.

[redqueen]

22. not speaking for myself

but rather based on those surveys and studies and all that kind of thing... i think the consensus seems to indicate that women choose two types of guys, depending on what they're interested in.

for having a good time (i.e. sex), they choose the rough tough macho (vomit) guy

for a relationship, they choose a more sensitive, thoughtful, considerate type of guy


i think that lizard brain shit (going for macho assholes) has to STOP. pussy control, ladies, PLEASE!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

24. Amen.

From a non-macho guy. :hi:

[billyskank]

26. Not that I am suggesting I am the sensitive, thoughtful, considerate type*, but

I wanna have lots of sex too. :D Are they really mutually exclusive?

* That is for others to decide.

[redqueen]

33. hehehehehe

dunno! not too clear on the methodology

but i'd think the women not thinking with their lizard brains like sex, too, yes :)

[billyskank]

34. Oh good

'cause I wouldn't want to be the relationship kind of guy with no sex. I want my cake and to eat it too. :7

[SarahB]

53. You know,

I choose the sensitive, thoughtful, considerate type of guy for the sex because I simply loathe the macho cretins. It almost always turns into a long-term relationship though.

Women should just skip over the creeps and seduce the "nice" guys (who are better in bed anyway). "Pussy control." :thumbsup:

[billyskank]

55. I try to understand it like this

When I see a total asshole, no redeeming qualities, but he has a girlfriend or wife. One wants to ask, why would she want to be with him?

But I remind myself that women and men are not so different as they are made out to be. That is to say, women can be assholes too - and many are. In fact I see no reason why there should be fewer women assholes than men assholes.

Therefore, for every asshole guy there is probably an asshole woman who's exactly on his level.

[The Straight Story]

75. Sounds logical - maybe you should get funding for your own study - OR

just tell women you are doing study, good way to meet them and get them to open up to ya ;)

[pokerfan]

102. self confidence is attractive

I think some women, possibly on a subconscious hind brain level, tend to conflate macho-asshole aggressiveness with self confidence.

One of my sisters married one of these types even though she knew it was wrong. The marriage didn't last a year.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

114. And the men who are attracted to psycho shrews

mistake their underlying anger for smoldering passion.

When I was in college, the women in my dorm who were manipulative, heartbreaking sociopaths never lacked for attention from the guys.

Two of them lived on my floor freshman year. They used to sit around and compare notes about the mean things they'd done to guys. And yet they never had to spend the weekend alone.

This went along with my earlier observation that submissive, traditional women bear a lot of resentment toward men. My grandmother and her contemporaries were absolutely deferential to men and boys, but among themselves, whoa! I recall their telling a recently widowed friend how lucky she was.

My later observations in Japan, where submissive, traditional women told me that I was lucky to be single, confirmed that men can be awfully clueless about what they think they want.

[redqueen]

56. Yes.. just skip the macho creeps!

:bounce:

[Cabcere]

71. Personally, I find all the macho bullshit to be a HUGE turn-off.

:shrug: Then again, I'm one of those women who "has a great personality," ( :eyes: ) so the qualities I seek in men aren't exactly of the highest importance, I guess. :eyes:

[redqueen]

73. I have a great personality, too.

And a nice pair of knockers.

Still not diggin the macho BS, though. :P

[billyskank]

74. I like the way you hold a straw.

You're cute.

[Cabcere]

94. ...

:blush:

:hug: Thanks, billy. :hi:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

115. I have NEVER liked the macho bad boys

Not even in high school, when so many of classmates were gaga over guys who, if they didn't have prison records already, soon would.

I always preferred the "junior mad scientists."

[skygazer]

40. The size of their package

Actually, that's what men seem to think which has always cracked me up.

[supernova]

44. We--yulll....

:blush:

[billyskank]

45. Ahhhhh

THAT's the reason. ;)

[supernova]

48. Not solely of course

but it does make my day a lot more interesting. ;-)

I suppose such a pic thread would get locked. :blush:

[kwassa]

69. Money/Success/Power

speaking strictly in old stereotypes, of course. Women are sex objects, men are success objects.

[raccoon]

121. The stereotype is that women choose men based on his earning ability/financial status. nt

[Shine]

19. Yeah, I saw that one, too, and laughed. Duh, thanks for the newsflash!

:eyes:

[supernova]

25. Yo Guys! Here's your chance

to tell us how stunningly beautiful we all are!! :D :bounce:


(Shamelessly asking for ego boost)

[billyskank]

28. Already done.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=6896098&mesg_id=6896677

[supernova]

46. Thank you, billyskank.

:loveya:

I feel especially fragile today.

[NewJeffCT]

43. Not only gorgeous

but, sexy, smart and fun to be around as well...

[supernova]

47. Thank you Jeff,

Your wife has the best taste. :-) :hug:

[NewJeffCT]

50. any time

I'm good with compliments.

[Guava Jelly]

29. Not me

Although looks can spark the initial interest I tend to look at the person behind them.
I can't be with someone beautiful or not that has an ugly heart.
Not all things pretty are good for you..

[billyskank]

31. I do

Although I keep finding women who are both beautiful AND nice.

Now if only I could find one who likes me AND is able to have me. But that is probably trying to shoot the moon...

[Guava Jelly]

35. Sometimes when you stop looking

for it is the very moment you find it.
I wish you luck in your quest.
Hell i wish everyone love and happiness.

[WildEyedLiberal]

39. I really hate "evolutionary psychology"

It's junk science designed to give an "official" imprimatur to humanity's ugliest instincts, and of course the shallow news media eats it up. It is, to be quite frank, garbage to make a mass generalization like this. "Men" want this or "women" want that - please. Not to mention speed dating seems to me to be a shit way of meeting a potential mate. I don't know about anyone else, but the factors that play into whether or not I consider someone a potential mate are a hell of a lot more complicated than "oh, he's rich, he'll be a good provider for my future children." What stone age nonsense. "Evolutionary psychology" ignores the fact that humanity has, oh... EVOLVED in the past few thousand years.

[Ellen Forradalom]

68. Popular evo-psych is just the latest shiny coat of paint

over the same old racist, sexist, homophobic bullshit.

[NNN0LHI]

41. I sure didn't mean to hurt any feelings by posting this

And I will be the first to admit that I am no Errol Flynn. Far from it.

More the John Candy type here.

Don

[XemaSab]

101. Nothing like the smell of a flamewar in the morning...

(but it looks like everyone's on the same side here :hide: )

[NewJeffCT]

49. I don't entirely agree with that conclusion - however

I will say that I think men notice the most attractive women first,

But I've generally tended to be most attracted to women that are not only physically attractive, but are smart, outgoing, left-of-center politically and generally at least fairly nice. And, I think there are plenty of guys that are hoping to find somebody that is compatible with their personality as well. (I will qualify that by saying that I think if a woman was very attractive, some men might also be more flexible on how well their personalities match or other requirements.)

[WildEyedLiberal]

92. But what "evolutionary psychology" totally ignores is that....

...GASP... WOMEN are initially attracted to physically attractive men, too! Imagine that!!!

I don't disagree with or even take issue with your post at all. In fact, I think the corollary is true for women as well. But you'll never hear evolutionary psychologists say that "gee, women are attracted to strong, handsome, strapping physically impeccable men" because it doesn't help support their preconceived "conclusion" which amounts to a reinforcement of the patriarchy.

So we get this same old bullshit canard about how only men care about looks and women just want someone who is rich and will give them lots of money for their kids.

[BlueIris]

51. Wow. Nice "study" they "reported" on there. Not.

[DS1]

54. Of course we do

It's why we're always asking for photos on the Internet. Don't post them and we'll leave you alone

[idgiehkt]

57. Can anyone translate?

''Women made offers to men who had overall qualities that were on a par with the women's self-rated attractiveness. They didn't greatly overshoot their attractiveness,'' Todd said, ''because part of the goal for women is to choose men who would stay with them.''


:wtf:

[billyskank]

59. "Women who think they're ugly only try it with ugly guys".

;)

[idgiehkt]

62. it's rather vague, it says 'overall qualities' for the male

it makes me think that whereas they are talking about strict physicality on the female side, they might mean per annum on the male side. Kinda creepy.

All I know is a friend met a guy doing this speed dating thing and then she went on a road trip with him and he screamed at her and was abusive on the way, a total rageaholic.

[billyskank]

64. Yup I think you nailed it.

It's deeply reactionary. The premise is that men are looking for a woman who looks good while women are looking for a man who can provide them with an expensive lifestyle.

Crushingly, for some people still this might even be true.

[SOteric]

89. Actually, I don't think that's what it's trying to suggest.

I think rather it's saying that

1) women value other aspects. (I will supply what I believe to be the case for many women: power, wealth, fame, ability to provide, athleticism, etc.)

2) in making offers, women who are stunningly good looking and value athleticism will make a play for the captain of the football team in high school and set their caps for professional atheletes in adulthood.

While women who are of average attractiveness but similarly value athleticism might make a play for an less spectacular member of the team in high school maybe from the 2nd string, and someone like a Phys. Ed. instructor in adulthood.

[idgiehkt]

96. yeah, I think that's a good delineation

I wish someone would teach men to look for other qualities as well, as in your example it seems it always comes back to looks for the men. Some women have looks as well as other fine qualities, some are not as stunning but have amazing qualities that override physicality, especially in the long run, and some women are attractive physically but completely rotten on the inside. Both of my brothers got the looks part right with their wives but the women are hugely lacking in other areas and it is really painful, frustrating, and many times infuriating to watch them being mistreated repeatedly by these women they chose. There is no answer, of course, it just hurts to watch someone you love be treated this way. :(

[cobalt1999]

58. What other conclusion could that study come up with?

You only give people 3 to 7 minutes, of course looks are going to be the primary factor EVEN IF other factors are more important to you. You'd never have a chance to evaluate the criteria properly in that short timespan.

The conditions were rigged to only provide one result.

[Nikia]

91. I agree

Evaluating other factors take much more time. Some people are good at acting for 3-7 mintues. Other people take longer than that to even start getting comfortable. Looks really are the only thing that can be determined in such a short amount of time.

[WildEyedLiberal]

93. Bingo.

Evolutionary psychology's rigorous testing methodology at its finest. :eyes:

[supernova]

63. Then how the hell do I explain my SiL?

Who is both quite ummm... matronly looking AND bitchy (and bordering on abusive, but that's just IMO)

My brother by the by is quite handsome, in a good old boy sort of way.

[supernova]

65. OK, after spending some useless time obsessing over this piece

:P

Perhaps what it really means is that, initially it might be true that we revert to type, but it's up to subsequent encounters for us to figure out if our initial impression is legitimate or not.

[NNN0LHI]

77. I have known some drop dead gorgeous women that I couldn't stand being around

And yes from a distance I was attracted, but after I got close it was not the case.

Now on the other hand I have known some women who were just average looking but I couldn't be around them enough.

Your point is valid.

Don

[cobalt1999]

78. You got it.

The more I got to know the girl who became my wife, the more I was interested in her. You can't accurately judge important factors such as personality, intelligence, and sense of humor in 3 minutes.

[Brigid]

82. I'm fainting with shock.

:sarcasm:

[sarge43]

85. Breaking: Whales do it in the oceans. Film at eleven.

Forty six people -- that's certainly representative. :sarcasm:

[SOteric]

87. Duh.

People have known this for untold centuries. Why do we suddenly need a study to tell us, and who funded it?

[BreweryYardRat]

95. Oh, horseshit. I'll take anyone who'll have me, so long as she's smart, and not hideous.

Plain is fine.

Those were my criteria back when I was skinny, still are now that I'm a mix of muscle and fat.

[Xipe Totec]

105. One man's plain,

is another man's warrior princess.


So long as the plumbing is compatible...

[crim son]

97. No shit, Sherlock.

This is not to say that they will get the woman they first choose. But men are visual and as many times as I hear them protest that they don't focus on a woman's physical appearance, I also hear them moan, groan and whistle whenever something lovely and/or buxom passes. Whatever.

[XemaSab]

99. This is pretty much a no brainer, yeah

But the thing it misses is the fact that you can't get to know someone in 7 minutes.

Come on, do you really want to end up with Britney or will you get OFF that train PDQ?

[KamaAina]

103. An in-depth report on this is in this month's issue of DUH! Magazine

At your newsstand now!

[Ellen Forradalom]

112. By Captain Obvious

[Xipe Totec]

104. Best scientific paper since "A Stress Analysis of a Strapless Evening Gown" n/t

[TK421]

108. Not I..............in fact, I like a good sense of humor over anything

since I crack jokes like nobody's business...and it helps to crack the ice in those, ummm..moments

[MiniMandaRuth]

109. I won't deny it.

When in a class, if a guy is cute or says something interesting, I'll prolly talk to him a lot faster than Mr. Silent or Mr. I-Don't-Look-Too-Good




(Although, my version of cute is nerdy so... I talk to a lot of guys)