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Sun Sep-09-07 05:56 PM
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what is your view of women who have many male friends but few or no female friends? |
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or conversely, what about men who hang out with old rich ladies?
or cats that think they are dogs?
or deities that need to represent themselves as human to communicate with us?
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Sun Sep-09-07 06:17 PM
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1. or the way free speech can be offending? |
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Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 06:18 PM by wildhorses
and how people think it is okay to offend but take offense at being offended ;)
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Sun Sep-09-07 06:30 PM
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3. "...and why the sea is boiling hot and whether pigs have wings? |
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Sun Sep-09-07 06:19 PM
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2. My view is that of a slightly myopic middle-aged woman |
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In other words, blurry. :hi:
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:13 PM
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as the only girl in a large family, I simply don't connect with women very much
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:19 PM
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5. I have male friends but i normally feel closer to female friends |
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Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 07:19 PM by GoPsUx
Maybe having 5 sisters and 0 brothers is part of the reason. second question..I have no answer third My cat thinks he is a dog http://youtube.com/watch?v=nGJwXM6iqOMFourth there are no gods. :D
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:23 PM
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being stuck at the women's table at large social gatherings. The men are talking about useful things like painting houses and fixing lawnmowers and all the women want to talk about is the new fall pant colors or whether so and so's daughter is preggers again.
Now that I'm stuck in the wheelchair all the time I have to hire men for a lot of this stuff now but back in the days where I did it all I really wish I could have hung out with all the husbands.
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:24 PM
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7. You speak of my daughter. How do I feel? I love her. |
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She had a very formal (and very expensive :-() wedding in La Jolla 10 years ago. There were seven attendants. All guys. And all her (and her husband's) closest friends. Not a bridesmaid in the bunch.
Now, she has a few close woman friends. But back then she didn't. And I was OK with it.
And I guess this was a somewhat serious answer to a not-too-serious question. ;-)
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:30 PM
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13. It can go the other way too. |
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A couple of years ago I went to a very dear (male) friend's bachelor party. He was the only man attending. :)
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:42 PM
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8. As someone who spent much of his adolescence |
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trying not to get stabbed, beaten up, or shot by bullies and gang members, I don't feel very comfortable with other men. I much prefer the company of women. That's not to say I've never had close male friends, but when I'm with men, there's always a felling of competition and dominance issues going on. I'm pretty masculine, so I don't think it makes me any less of a man for wanting to hang out with women. I just get tired of always wondering if any given situation is going to turn into a fistfight. Even if the other men I'm hanging out with are not dangerous in any way, it's just the way I was raised. It's hard conditioning to break.
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:44 PM
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9. I am Gozer the Gozerian. |
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Mon Sep-10-07 12:13 AM
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Mon Sep-10-07 06:33 AM
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19. i am vigo the carpathian |
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Mon Sep-10-07 11:05 AM
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24. Nope... Oktoberain is the "scourge of Carpathia... the sorrow of Moldavia" |
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and until a couple of weeks ago, did indeed suffer from Carpathian kitten-loss...
well, until i painted one in over by the castle, that is. *L*
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:51 PM
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10. oh nutz! didn't realize |
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I needed to have a view on that subject. I'll have to come up with one...maybe there's a shop somewhere where I can pick one up.
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:29 PM
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But now that I know plenty of women who are into SF, role-playing games, fanfiction, politics, and geeking out on indie rock and heavy metal, my friends circle is more mixed. :)
I think women like that are ones who choose their interests first, and that determines who their friends are--lots of women do it the other way around. Ain't nothin' wrong with it.
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:46 PM
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14. Are these questions all related? |
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I don't think that men or women who hang out with the other gender are comparable to cats thinking that they are dogs or deities representing themselves as human. And are you saying that it is odd that women hang out with any men while it is only odd if men hang out with old rich ladies? Where are you going with this?
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Mon Sep-10-07 06:21 AM
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too busy to have an axe to grind.
they're all sharp anyway.
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Mon Sep-10-07 12:13 AM
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15. My senior year in high school I hung out with my geek friends most of the time |
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and there was only one girl in that group.
Of course, half the reason she hung out with us was because she had a crush on me... and I was oblivious for the first half of the year. :)
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Mon Sep-10-07 12:16 AM
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17. You're pretty much describing me. |
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Virtually all of my real friends are men. I have a few vague acquaintances who are female, and of course ThinkBlue1966 is my best friend always, but...I just get along better with guys. *shrug* Women don't seem to like me very much, and I don't seem to like them much either.
:hi:
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Mon Sep-10-07 07:19 AM
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Had a few close female friends in my life, but for the most part I've been much more comfortable with guys. At best, other women often seem uninterested in me. Some of them (usually the snotty "mean girl" type) find me instantly unlikeable and do their level best to drive me away from any situation.
I don't have many stereotypically female interests, either, and find it difficult to find conversational topics to talk to women about. I am also fairly uninterested in participating in "female" type social dynamics (relational aggression, analyzing various relationship issues to death, etc). I find guys more interesting, and easier to get along with - much less pointless drama in a group of guys. The female friends I have had have tend to be quite intelligent, have strong personalities, and also have traditionally male interests. Interestingly, the guys I like to be friends with tend to be the kind of guys who really enjoy the company of women, and who tend to be the non-macho type of guy. I definitely think there's a connection there. I often joke that I am really into androgyny - I like PEOPLE who are not gender stereotypical. Stereotypical "guys" bug the shit out of me just as much as stereotypical "girls".
When this topic comes up on the Internets, invariably some people post that they think women like me are horrible and have some kind of personality disorder for wanting to hang around with guys. I used to be hurt by stuff like that, but now I just shrug. Who cares? I didn't cultivate being this way. I've been this way since I was a toddler. In the sandbox, I was the girl who was out there having fun wrestling and playing sports with the boys while the other girls played house. I'm happy with myself, and I'm happy with the friends I have. Why should I participate in a social dynamic I'm not interested in, and in some cases find vastly irritating? It won't make me happier, and it won't make them happier either. I think everyone should pick the friends they are comfortable with and not worry so much about whether that makes them or anyone else "normal".
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Mon Sep-10-07 07:22 AM
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21. Don't blame the deities. |
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We'll anthropomorphize anything, and will insist on seeing a face in a piece of freakin' toast.
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Mon Sep-10-07 08:18 AM
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welcome our new rich old lady overlords...
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Mon Sep-10-07 08:36 AM
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23. I think you find companionship where you can and don't |
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judge anyone else for doing the same.
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Mon Sep-10-07 11:27 AM
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25. We're likely to be what used to be called "tom boys" |
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Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 11:31 AM by supernova
I guess we still are. I am that way too. I have had very few female friends throughout the years, a handful at most. Most of the women friends that I have had successful friendships with tend to be more unconventional too.
I am not interested in a lot of the the day to day chit chat that makes up a lot of typically female conversation: who's dating whom, who likes whom or doesn't anymore, how are so and so's kids doing, backstabbing and gossip. On my worst days, I'm likely to refer to such gatherings as "hen parties," and sincerely wish to run screaming from the room when it happens. I'm much more interested in literature, fiction, politics (obviously ;-) ), the "wider world" issues if you like. That tends to separate me from most women I know, who are more concerned with hearth and home, even if they do work.
I have found the men Friends that I've had over the years to be much more accommodating of my erm... uniqueness, unconventionality? I don't feel so out of place then. God bless 'em. And some of them are pretty damn macho. I have never been athletic, but I do enjoy individual pastimes like hiking and walking and swimming. And gadgets. I love gadgets. If there's a tech toy out there, I'm interested. :-)
In some ways I'm still trying to find out where I belong. And I'm 45! One of the constant features of my life is a sense of being a round peg trying to fit in a square hole. I used to feel bad about being different, but I no longer do. I am what my nature and experiences have made me. But I still don't know what it's all good for.
Sorry, I kinda got off track. The answer is it can be quite complicated.
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