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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:18 PM
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WHO tries on panties in a clothes store Fitting Room?
PERSONALLY, I'm aware that a lot of sizes are built to stretch. I have an awareness of my own size and realize it can acommodate other sizes as well. I buy them in packs or off the rack but I DO NOT TRY THEM ON first.

Catalyst of thread: Thongs, etc, found hanging on the "Go back" bar in the fitting room where I work.

Am not paid enough for this.:banghead:
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:19 PM
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1. I do nt
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:21 PM
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2. Love your sigline. But
WHY? WHY? WHY?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:25 PM
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3. Well, if the store sells them unwrapped....
Glad that I only buy them in sealed packages.
I supposed it's not that different from the people who try on swimsuits when they're not wearing undies.
I wouldn't want your job however.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:28 PM
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5. I've never done that either, with the swimsuits.
Thanks for that. Plus, your sig made me LOL. :D
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:27 PM
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4. I worked in a woman's clothing store when the Thong Song
came out. It's against state law for women to try on underwear but we'd have a insane amount of women who never had worn a thong try to sneak them in the fitting room and argue with us because they had no awareness of their size.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:33 PM
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9. Wow! You have a state law against it?
I don't mean to congratulate myself too much, but if I had a couple of dollars and was that curious about the thong, I'd just buy it.

Aack. What you must have gone through!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:38 PM
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11. Actually, many states have that same law...
and with good reason
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:29 PM
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6. i think it is against the law to try them on...at least in NY it is
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:38 PM
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10. We need underwear police.
I don't know if we have a law against it here. I don't think it would be qualifications for tasering, but a right and proper punishment should be necessary.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:34 PM
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65. I'll volunteer
point me to my post, ma'am.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:32 PM
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7. Not you, I hope?
Sounds like the new job is treating you well, darling! :loveya:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:46 PM
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13. SHUT UP.
:rofl: Not I. For the most part I like it a lot, but there are some disgusting little details I can live without.

:loveya:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:32 PM
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8. oh my, that can be like STD/contact point shit...
x( make'em provide a current state health certif first :thumbsup:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:43 PM
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12. GOD.
Really. I'm more into humanity than commerce, naturally, but the CUSTOMER is not always "right". Excellent points you always make, m'dear. At the end of the work day, I'll tell you, I have seen pretty gross stuff. (I never thought it would happen to me, seeing gross stuff, *LOL*)

:beer:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:47 PM
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14. humanity is all groovy, but humanity is funky too...
having to just muscle past chicks in a store and i want to push them in a mud puddle :bounce: and & yes, specially at the end of *some* days you KNOW what i mean :toast:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 02:52 PM
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15. *bridgit*
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 02:53 PM by Sugar Smack
LOLOLOL :rofl: :applause: :patriot: :spank: :loveya: :hi: :yourock: :yourock: :pals: First off, you said "funky", second off, I love your sense of truth beauty, and third off, you actually decide to laugh instead of crying.

Jesus. Bravo! :applause:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:47 PM
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54. EWWWWW! 'Keep your cooties off my panties!'
:hide:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 01:52 AM
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73. Cooties.
*LOL* I love you, sweetheart. You know that, right? :hug:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:06 PM
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16. Shaft?
:hi:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:47 PM
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25. Yeah. But he does that with his parachutes on.
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 03:47 PM by Sugar Smack
:patriot:
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:59 PM
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55. Damn right.
:rofl:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:07 PM
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17. Not I, says the little horned toad of green...


:evilgrin:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:02 PM
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26. Frogs are so considerate. They don't mess with equasions.
Or STDs, for that matter. I love 'em. They keep themselves to themselves. :D
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:58 PM
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44. I always do!
:D

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:07 PM
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18. I don't try on panties but
can't help asking - are crotches somehow dirtier than other parts of the body? I mean, people try on all kinds of clothes - they touch their armpits, their feet, their legs, their breasts. But only crotches are nasty?

Oh, and last I knew, it would be very unlikely if not impossible to get an STD from a pair of underwear that someone had on for a few moments.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:20 PM
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21. I think the answer is 'yes' - probably why they invented underwear in the first place.
For both genders, before I get my head taken off.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:14 PM
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29. No head removal here, Richardo.
Only consideration.

:loveya:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:41 PM
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35. I have no axe to grind here so you won't get your head taken off by me
Though I think they probably invented underwear because of chafing rather than because of hygiene. :D
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:09 PM
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28. Honey, have you ever been confronted with butt-crack sweat?
Don't envy me, please. ;-) Don't you be giving me a hard time, hear? I feel about to quit this job anyway. It's not about bodily functions, either. Men are as completely gross as women. I try to be positive, but it's really hard. The other day I was asked, "You do know the difference between one and twenty, right?" and then she walked away. I could have chopped her skinny, ugly bod in half, but I plastered on the Stepford Wife smile.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:33 PM
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33. Well, bless your heart, darlin'
:P

I'm not trying to be an asshole (pun absolutely intended). And I don't envy you the job - I work retail. I know about those jobs and I know all about obnoxious, self-centered, holier-than-thou, talk-down-to-the-help customers.

Just pointing out that in the large scheme of things, the 30 seconds a pair of panties are on someone in a changing room are probably not going to infest them with cooties.

:hug:

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:43 PM
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36. I think the policy is really related to the "ick" factor.
Few customers want to think that the undies have been worn next to other peoples' nekkid nether regions even if the customer has enough sense to launder new undies before wearing them. Having policies against trying them on or returning them out of the package after purchase is probably good for store sales, outside of specialty lingerie stores at least.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:49 PM
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40. Oh, I realize that
And I honestly don't care either way, don't try underwear on at the store and am not aiming to turn this into the new "douchebag" thread. :rofl:

I guess I'm just too darn logical and look at things from that point of view rather than the knee-jerk "ick" reaction. After all, armpits can be pretty darn gross and are probably on average grosser than the average crotch but no one objects to trying on shirts. Though I really have no desire to do a study on the subject. :P
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #40
57. I resisted the urge to write this before, but you deserve it.
Most people would get their panties in a wad over it.:D
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:46 PM
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38. Skygazer, I beg you to understand the "butt crack factor", that's all...
:hug: Thank you for your patience. But it's not the infestation that I fear. It's more the "getting used to the awfulness bringing me within a width of some walleyed industrial sycophant" and her secretions that makes me unsteady. Y'know?
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:53 PM
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42. Oh, Sugar Smack, I love you to bits!
And I do understand - see my reply to Gormy - I'm just too frigging logical for my own good. :rofl:

And the next time some nasty piece of work gets snotty with you, fling some previously tried-on panties in her face. :hug:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:23 PM
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53. I WILL.
Curse those dumbasses. I will introduce her to some tried-on thongs up close.

:hug: I love you to confetti, , sg.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:48 AM
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75. 'Community Underwear' is a prime vector for Chlamydia transmission.
Not so much for the other assorted cooties, but definitely for chlamydia. Hence the various laws against trying on underwear, or trying on swimsuits WITHOUT underwear. Contact time is not so important - chlamydia can live for quite awhile in cloth, and contact need only be momentary for the bugs to take up residence.

</mrunderwearscience>

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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:53 AM
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76. Certainly they are.
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 10:55 AM by janesez
Crotches are where we expel liquid and solid wastes. Not everyone is as diligent as they should be in cleansing these areas after expelling. Urine is sterile, but fecal matter is the most bacteria-laden substance on earth.

It would be highly unlikely, but not IMPOSSIBLE, to contract an STD from underpants. But what you could get is crabs.

Also, blergh. :puke:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:11 AM
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79. .
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 11:14 AM by Richardo


That's a very, um, thorough post, janesez.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:28 AM
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80. Think of it as a public service announcement!
I've never had crabs, but I had head lice in elementary school and I remember it being VERY unpleasant; therefore, I'm gonna assume that having them THERE is Teh Suck!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:29 AM
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82. I would have to agree...
...based on specualtion only, of course.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:15 PM
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19. couldn't they simply have those protection strips that they have on bathing
suits?

I dunno, sugar, I just buy em by the pack or try em on at home....


:shrug:


and no thongs for me, not even when there was less of me than there is now! :rofl:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:20 PM
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31. Tigereye, you're a damned good friend.
*LOL* "not even when there's less of me than there is now."

:rofl:

This corporate stuff is getting out of hand. No, I really don't believe people should try on underwear that wedges up their clean/unclean ass. Sorry if that makes me some kind of fascist, but I'm past caring at this point.

:yourock:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #31
67. how are you?
nice to see you out and about here.

:hi:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:18 PM
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20. matcom.
And if that doesn't scare the living Shiitakes out of you, I don't know what will.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:45 PM
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23. dammit
I was going to say I did

stupid football game
stupid no tv at home

:grr:






:D
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:52 PM
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41. If you came to my store,
I really, really think I'd be on to your game, dude.

You've got to wake up early in the AM to fool this duck.

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:41 PM
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22. EEEWWWWWW
Convince yourself they are trying them on over what they have on. It is your only hope for sanity.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. The freaking onliest.
I think I'd rather work as Goofy at Disneyland sometimes. :o
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Tian Zhuangzhuang Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:45 PM
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24. I have to try them on first
Being a guy I have never quite figured out those woman's sizes. Plus I gotta make sure they boys are comfortable in their silk palace. :evilgrin:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #24
43. You're a mess.
A mess, yahear? }(
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:04 PM
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27. People always argue with me about trying on tights.
EW EW EW GROSS
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:00 PM
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45. THANK YOU.
I have a painting of you in Pirate garb. D'you mind if I post it next week or so? It's nothing like hose and such. :D It's good to be back.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 08:22 PM
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63. Sure
:)
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:17 PM
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30. Not me.
:puke:

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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #30
47. BAH! OF Course! That would be considerate.
We can't have that. :D

PS- I missed you.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #47
56. I'm often accused of being considerate.
:7

Missed you too!

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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:37 PM
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34. Republican men (n/t)
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #34
48. Christ on a pogo stick.
Did I have to see that, babe? GOD. :o
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:45 PM
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37. I would rather go without panties than try them on in a store. ewww. n/t
peace~
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:08 PM
Original message
Dystopian,
I herald your presence, and concur NOBODY SHOULD SEE WHAT I AM SEEING.

Love, Steffi
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 12:10 AM
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72. Thank you.....
:hi:

I really feel terrible for you...as I'm kind of a germ freak...
But the fact that you posted this cracked me up! Lots of crazy stuff in this thread.....
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this...and I'm really glad you can't see me smiling...
Wearing panties in the 60s was just soooooo not cool...
Maybe the trend will come back? :shrug:
Germ gel and rubber gloves get me through the day!

peace~
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:48 PM
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39. Never.
I have an awareness of my own size, and if I shop at a store where I don't usually shop and end up with something that doesn't fit, I just take the loss. If I knew that a pair of underwear I'd purchased had been tried on before... I think I'd just stop wearing underwear.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:13 PM
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50. mutley_r_us_r_ meeeeee.
Take the friggin loss, allaya. Mutley, what do I say to these critters if I catch them, eh?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:25 PM
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59. Tell they are nasty and cheap.
And that their mommas obviously didn't do a very good job on 'em. :P
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:00 PM
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46. Gah!
Icky.

I don't envy you.

:hug:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:16 PM
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51. Thanks. I'm having flashbacks to yesterday.
It's not all fun & games. It's thongs now. Geeze.

:hug: Hold me.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:08 PM
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49. Not me!
I'll bet they did
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 05:18 PM
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52. No, honey!
It's my guess they're wearing nothing at all under their jeans! Bet you fifty dollars! :o :D
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:52 PM
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60. You would win that bet!
BTW ~
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:06 PM
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58. Gross! and you know what else is just as bad--people that buy underwear and do not wash them
before wearing them.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:53 PM
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61. they could have been 'examined' by George Castanza...
:wow: they have to be washed :thumbsup:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 06:53 PM
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62. ewww....gross
:puke:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 08:58 PM
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64. They did a story on the news about panty returns to stores.
They bought panties in various stores, tried to return them and were successful. And in many cases, the same panties were put right back on the shelves in the store. This is in a state where it's illegal to try on underwear, and I think also to return it. IIRC, one of the stores was Victoria's Secret. Eeeuuuw!
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:44 PM
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66. I do not like fitting rooms for ANYTHING.
Not to freak anybody out or anything, but I worked retail for years, and I will tell you that fitting rooms are not as private as you might think. One Department Store I worked at had security peepholes into ALL the fitting rooms. The stock boys would get busted fairly routinely when they'd camp out by the spy holes into the lingerie fitting rooms...

I will NEVER try anything on unless it is an absolute necessity.



Laura

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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:11 PM
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68. Just as bad as women peeing on toilet seat in public restrooms.
Nasty!!

:rant:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:12 PM
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69. Yeah, what the heck is up with that?
You would think we were guys or something. :puke:

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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:36 PM
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70. Gross.
I would never wear my own unwashed underwear. I'm not going to wear someone else's. And I'm not going to hang them up for other people to try on.

I understand trying on bras or something, but I don't think it's necessary to try on underwear. Hold it up to your ass to check! Or - for god's sake - try it on over your underwear.

I'm so sorry, Sugar Smack. Some people should not be allowed into retail locations.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:52 PM
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71. do stores check/clean those panties people tried on before putting it back out
to sell to others ?

whenever i think of this i kind of wish all underwear was sold in pack and maybe just put out one of each type for display.

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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 06:08 PM
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85. We mark it "DAMAGED" and send it away
to....somewhere else!!:o
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 06:08 PM
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86. We mark it "DAMAGED" and send it away
to....somewhere else!!:o
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:32 AM
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74. I was not aware that this happened. And...
I am not happy that I am now aware of it.

Ignorance can indeed be bliss.





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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:58 AM
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77. Eeeeewww!! No, I just trust they will fit!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:07 AM
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78. even when i buy new underwear, i don't put it on until it's been washed.
actually- that's my policy with ALL new clothes.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:29 AM
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81. Ewwww...makes me glad I wear boxers
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 12:40 PM
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83. I do
My neighbors complain when I do it in the front yard
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 12:58 PM
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84. You'd think that the World Health Organization would know better
Ick!
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