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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:52 PM
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BMI Index illustrated - slideshow. "Morbidly obese"? Really?
http://kateharding.net/bmi-illustrated/

This is very interesting.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:55 PM
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1. What are they trying to sell?
What I mean is, when great swathes of people whom you'd think are okay or normal are categorised as having some or other condition or disorder, it usually seems to be because somebody is hawking some pill for it.

And I apologise for the length of that sentence. :D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:00 PM
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6. Who do you mean by "they"?
The website linked is pointing out how ridiculous the BMI standards are.

The BMI standards are used to fuel sales for the multi-billion dollar weight-loss industry.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:01 PM
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7. The pharma companies.
:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:03 PM
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11. Aw but you're leaving out all the fad diet people!
Atkins, South Beach, etc. etc. etc.

:crazy:

:hi:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:02 PM
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8. I think Billyskank is referring to the BMI standard-setting people as "they".
:)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:55 PM
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2. By the BMI numbers...
this guy was morbidly obese at the time this pic was taken:

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:56 PM
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4. I think they meant 'morbidly obtuse'
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:38 PM
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20. !!!!!ROTFLMAO!!!!
I LOVE IT!!
BEST description of stupidity I've ever heard!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:59 PM
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5. yeah, but you're a fattie too so what would you know?
:sarcasm:
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Silver Swan Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:56 PM
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3. This gives more information on the subjects

http://flickr.com/photos/77367764@N00/sets/72157602199008819/detail/
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:02 PM
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9. Is it just me
or, have these classifications become a bit tougher over the past 10 years or so? Meaning, somebody that was merely "overweight" 10 years ago could now be "morbidly obese"

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Silver Swan Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:06 PM
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13. Yes, they changed in 1998
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:03 PM
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10. according to them i am slightly overweight. its hard to be correct weigh
if you are five feet nothing.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:05 PM
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12. Crickey, no wonder we have such fucked up notions of what "normal" is.
:eyes:

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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:06 PM
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14. I say go with where you feel comfortable
I've lost 25 pounds recently and I did that because I wasn't feeling good. Now I'm at 262 and I feel much better. I'd still like to lose some more weight, but if I had to spend the rest of my life at 262 pounds I don't think I would feel too horrible about that. BTW, I'm a damned sexy 262. :)
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:10 PM
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15. Without similar clothing and pose, it's really hard to learn anything from photos
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 02:31 PM by LeftyMom
Also, we live in a country where fat is the new normal (presumably why many of the "normal" bodies looked a bit pudgy.) Especially if you're not in a city or on the coasts, but even there anything with a seat has had to be designed for the wider American Ass version 2.0.

That said, the BMI is a crock of shit, and you can tell more about somebody's health status by eye and watching them move a bit than you can by plotting them on a height/weight chart.

edit: Example: I'm 5'3 and 125 lbs. Apparently I'm "normal" anywhere between 105 lbs (which would be unhealthily thin with my build, I'd look like I was dying and likely wouldn't feel much better than if I were) and 140 lbs (at this weight I was suffering health problems and had a hard time being active.) I'd have to be 170 lbs to be considered "obese," which is almost half again my healthy natural size, and even more than I weighed at the tail end of my pregnancy. The BMI is much less useful than observation and common sense.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:22 PM
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16. Oh hell, I seem to be "morbidly obese".
Now I'm not the fattest person on earth but it's true that I wish I were slimmer. But the people they call "obese" there seem absolutely normal to me... what kind of crap ist that?!


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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:15 PM
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17. How dreary the world would be
if everyone were 'normal.'
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:32 PM
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18. Labels fit my observations in France
Although I think the real purpose should be as a tool. To approximately identify range of health risks by BMI groupings.

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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:35 PM
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19. BMI ratings are messed up
at 6'6" one has to be 160-215 lbs to be considered a normal weight

for most body frames, I'd think 160 lbs is way underweight at that height
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:49 PM
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21. BMI, perhaps, gets you in the ballpark of where you should be...
but it certainly isn't hard science or a complete picture.

At 5'10" I typically like to be in the 170 to 175 range (I'm 185 right now, but working on that). During a particularly stressful period in my life, I stopped eating and dropped to just under 160. According to the BMI calculations, that puts me about in the middle of "normal." Folks, I looked emaciated. Friends were telling me to go see a doctor because "something is just NOT right with you..."

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