Best punk band ever not named "The Clash"

[Merrick]

No "Other" category included to accomodate the maximum 10 slots. Fans of The Exploited, Reagan Youth, AFI, Pennywise, The Minutemen, The Damned, Circle Jerks, The Germs, X, etc. commence bitching below. (note: Ian MacKaye projects Minor Threat and Fugazi combined to save one more slot in the hope that doing so will reduce more bitching than it will cause)

[KamaAina]

1. Dead Kennedys: More relevant now than ever

"Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor,
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor,
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor toni-hi-hi-hi-hi-hi-hi-hi-ight!"

[Jamastiene]

46. What big business wants, big business gets, it wants a war...

...
Call the army. Call the navy. Stocked with kids from slums.
...
We're prepared for when ya get drafted.
When Ya Get Drafted.

Uhm...
More relevant than ever before. Right on. :yourock:

[ET Awful]

52. Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department

of the United States

We have a problem.

The companies want something done about this sluggish world economic situation. Profits have been running a little thin lately and we need to stimulate some growth.

Now we know there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble for the police and damage private property.

It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job.

It's about time we did something constructive with these people. We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over.

The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together-And start another war.

The President?

He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro, napalm, people running down the road, skin on fire

The Soviets seem up for it:

The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.

Hell, Afghanistan's no fun So whadya say?

We don't even have to win this war.

We just want to cut down on some of this excess population

Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can. We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,
hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way

Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland? Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?

We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story in the Middle East-we need that oil.

We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad didn't even show up. I tell ya that man is unreliable.

The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one. Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG!

The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper. We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right.

Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls. Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.
So many people have hooked themselves on heroin and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam. We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong. Kept the war functioning just fine

It's easy.

We've got our college kids so interested in beer they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.

Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard, they wouldn't even know what it looked like.

So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.

The arms manufacturers tell me unless we get our bomb factories up to full production the whole economy is going to collapse

The Soviets are in the same boat.

We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?

That's excellent. We knew you'd agree

The companies will be very pleased.

[MrCoffee]

2. anybody who doesn't vote for black flag is a war enabler.

rise above

[stimbox]

55. My War enabler!

My war you're one of them You say that you're my
friend But you're one of them You don't want to
see me live You don't want me to give cause you're
one of them My war you're one of them You say that
you're my friend But you're one of them I might
not know what a friend is All I know is what
you're not cause you're one of them My war you're
one of them You say that you're my friend But
you're one of them I have a prediction, it lives
in my brain It's with me every day, it drives me
insane I feel it in my heart, that if I has a gun
I feel it in my heart, I'd wanna kill some I feel
it in my heart, the end will come Come on! My war
you're one of them You say that you're my friend
But you're one of them Tell me that I'm wrong Try
to sing me your ego song You're one of them My war
you're one of them You say that you're my friend
But you're one of them My War.

[MrScorpio]

3. Bad Brains

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYddx4nyhA

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1048979

[devilgrrl]

21. Ding ding ding ding

We have our winner!!!!!

[mtnester]

4. Sheena is a punk rocker

nuff said

[abq e streeter]

39. definitely best ramones album

[Omphaloskepsis]

5. Propagandhi

Canada can have white trash too.

[Throd]

6. NOFX! Jesus H. Crotch they suck donkey dick!!!

Call it what you may, but don't call it punk. That sing-songy shit is responsible for a tsunami of Blink-182 style fecal matter and all their sorry imitators.

If I had the power of time travel I would strangle them in their cribs.

[Cursive]

66. ROFL

If I had the power of time travel I would strangle them in their cribs.

Whoa...you are punk.

I still like "Please Play This Song on the Radio" even if it's the only song I know by them.

[flvegan]

7. Of those, The Ramones. Would have been Minor Threat, but

you added Fugazi to it. Fugazi is Lieberman to Minor Threat's Gore.

[ghostsofgiants]

19. Dude, Fugazi rules.

Guy Picciotto is the fucking man.

[stimbox]

32. Rites Of Spring

Guy Picciotto's band before Fugazi ruled!

[ghostsofgiants]

35. Fuck yes.

[Merrick]

43. Seriously.

Not that Minor Threat wasn't a great band, but God forbid Ian MacKaye should aspire for something more than screaming his lungs out to 3 chord progressions his whole life.

[HuskerDU]

8. Heartbreakers

Like a Motherfucker

Of those on the list, I agree with exactly what flvegan said.

edit to get flvegan's name right.

[BlooInBloo]

9. I'll slap the fool who says nofx.

[LeftyMom]

10. I predict that by the time I get home this thread will need this

:popcorn:

If it doesn't, I'm horribly disappointed in all of you.

[HuskerDU]

15. Hmmm Well I do hate Johnny Rotten with a passion and find

the Clash to be boring. Otherwise it's all good.

[ghostsofgiants]

38. Public Image Ltd. owned the shit out of the Pistols.

The Pistols were alright, but they owed any musical quality to Glen Matlock's writing. Otherwise, they were basically average shock rockers with bondage pants.

[HuskerDU]

73. I'd always lumped PIL in with the Depeche Modes and New

Orders n such. I actually like the Pistols except for Rotten, that guy just gets on my nerves. He does live up to the name they gave him.

[Jamastiene]

50. GASP!!!!!!!!

You hate Johnny Rotten AND the Clash? You must be a masochist. That's gotta be it. Oh, how could you? For shame. For shame. :thumbsdown:

[HuskerDU]

69. Hey it wouldn't be punk rock without a little bit of slammin' into

other! Somebody had to start it or we'd be standing around tappin' our feet and bobbin' our heads like the hippies.

I don't hate the Clash, just like about 50 other punk bands better. I got turned on to punk in the mid 80s and had heard at least a dozen other punk bands before I heard them. Hearing them for the first time, I was expecting the 'only band that mattered' etc and found that I liked plenty of other bands much more instead.

I hate Johnny Rotten for 'New York (Dolls)'. Dolls are ma boys (er girls?) Thunders got 'em back pretty good with 'London Boys'.

[mitchum]

61. That's part of his genius...he wanted you to

[HuskerDU]

70. The genius was all Malcolm Mclaren IMO.

[mitchum]

74. Only according to McLaren (everyone else involved begs to differ)

[Jamastiene]

47. ...

:popcorn:
:rofl:

Yeah, I'm here now. I'm so tempted to say Nirvana just to keep this thread kicked and hopping, but I'll be good for now. Can't say I'll still be able to refrain as the night wears on though. :evilgrin:

[ghostsofgiants]

49. If by Nirvana you mean Wipers, then you might have a point.

:P

[BlooInBloo]

11. I'm torn between Crass and Ramones.

[redqueen]

12. I'm torn between The Ramones and Propagandhi.

But my first answer was really the Dead Kennedys.

Mmmmm... Ramones...

[judaspriestess]

13. FLIPPER

Totally kicks ath

[mitchum]

84. They did indeed

a great band

[ok_cpu]

14. Rancid

:hide:

[abq e streeter]

25. Glad someone else said it first

due to their having copied the Clash to a debatable extent, but they're great in their own right; and Out Come the Wolves is the best album ( album?? oops, my age is showing) of the 90's. To me it sounded like since the Clash stopped making great Clash albums, Rancid made one instead but about their own lives and times. God bless em for that. Hope I'm not pissing off any Rancid fans by talking about "copying", I really love them AND respect them; have seen em twice and if they ever come back to Albuquerque, I'll sure as hell be there again. And I'm FIFTY SIX years old. I saw only one other person my age at the show last year---my friends' and contemporaries' loss... If you love great , intelligent and committed rock and roll, it don't get no better (although I hope I get to see the E street band on this tour---don't get no better than that either).

[ghostsofgiants]

31. The First half of "And Out Come The Wolves" is great, but the second half I thought was lame.

Weird how it was half and half like that for me.

[Omphaloskepsis]

71. Look into Operation Ivy..

Most of the same people without the labels dictating their sound.

[Merrick]

40. Please, this is a serious discussion

you should duck.

[Jamastiene]

51. I can see it now. Filmed at 11...

YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME?????!!!!???? I'm gonna get in Trouble tonight.

Rancid is one kick ass band. You must be shitting me. Right? Do whaaaa?

[Phillycat]

76. Exactly right.

:thumbsup:

And Op Ivy.

[Throd]

89. "Punk" for jocks

[Rising Phoenix]

16. I listen to minor threat every time I get tattoed

we sing along and I get inked

[ellisonz]

17. KKKALIFORNIA UBER ALLES

[jpgray]

18. The Fall.

[SoxFan]

22. Punk?

I'd call them post-punk

[jpgray]

86. Genres are always tricky. But if Fugazi etc. are on the list...?

[ghostsofgiants]

20. Bad Brains

Though Refused is my all time favourite.

[SoxFan]

23. Social Distortion

X
Undertones

[BlooInBloo]

24. Lords of the New Church was pretty fucking hot too - on the goth side of punk.

[Tektonik]

26. easy choice

the Sex Pistols

[Dr. Strange]

27. I'd have to vote for Air Supply.

That should have been a choice.

[ghostsofgiants]

29. PUNX!!1

:headbang:

[mitchum]

28. The Pistols (for both their purity and their con)

[HuskerDU]

85. You like the con part Mitch but don't think Mac was a genius?

What was the con if not that leaching weasel McLaren?

[mitchum]

90. The con was also Lydon, a longtime krautrock fan, willing to play...

rockandroll (which he deplored) as a vehicle for his brilliantly nihilistic viewpoint. And , of course, the end result was one of the greatest rockandroll bands ever. All the time declaring how much he despised rockandroll.
McLaren may have suffered under the delusion that they were his "creation", but they quickly slipped out of his grasp and became far more the product of Lydon and Steve Jones (the artist and the thug)
Also, another brilliant con was reforming the band in the 90s. This was not only a crass attempt to cash in , but also a deliberate ploy to destroy that "special moment in time" legend of the Pistols. And it was pretty successful. No sentimentality.

If find the "Monkees" accusations leveled at them to be unfair. The sainted Clash were even more of a calculated prefab enterprise. It's as if Bernie Rhodes sat down and said; "What will appeal to rock critics and those who share their sensibilities? Hmmm? How about a band that traffics in Leftist sloganeering, reggae, American R&B, rockabilly, and a homoerotic appreciation of Marlon Brando, James Dean, and Monty Clift? That will hit our target audience!" Yes, indeed.

[HuskerDU]

92. Yes you got it as usual Mitch.

You know I'm just a bitter old Dolls fan weary of their place as a Sex Pistol's footnote in the RnR history book. Every Pistol makes clear his love for the Dolls, except Rotten who kicked 'em when they were down and out. In a perverse way, I think that is pretty cool- what else could you expect? Maybe Rotten IS a genius.

I follow you about the reunion and such... a seemless transition from the 'ever feel like you've been ripped-off' goodbye in San Fran back in the 70s. They laughed all the way to the bank, twice!

Clash a calculated prefab enterprise? So it ain't so Joe Bummer! Good to see you Mitchum.

[mitchum]

102. Lydon is touched by genius, but he is a miserable prick...

and, of course, there would have been no Pistols without the Dolls. Hell, Steve Jones wouldn't have even had a guitar without the Dolls!
take care,
mitchum

[HuskerDU]

103. Yes that is what gets my goat. Everybody else admits that

except Rotten. I've seen him in a couple of docs and miserable prick is spot on IMO.

That guitar got a lot of millage. I heard that the Britpunks just kept putting the same stickers on new guitars and selling 'em over and over again as the real deal.

[ghostsofgiants]

30. Wait, why is NOFX on that list?

Not that I don't like them, but man, they're nowhere near the best.

[Merrick]

44. I agree , but a lot of people like them

... or so I thought. Maybe not so much.

[martymar64]

33. MDC aka Millions of Dead Cops

John Wayne was a Nazi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RdeM0PYRs

[ghostsofgiants]

36. Aka...

More Dead Cops, Millions of Deformed Children, Multi Death Corporations, Millions of Damn Christians, Magnus Dominus Corpus, Male Dominated Culture, Metal Devil Cokes, and Missile Destroyed Civilization.

[martymar64]

41. Glad to see I'm not the only fan!

[ghostsofgiants]

42. They kick ass.

The multitude of names just adds to the fun, haha.

[stimbox]

34. Discharge, Crass, Subhumans, Crucifix...

Flux of Pink Indians, Rudimentary Peni, Rebel Truth

The good old days.

[Throd]

80. Now you're talkin'

I agree with you on all those bands except for Flux of Pink Indians.

I'm gonna go put Maximum Rock-n-Roll's "Not So Quiet on the Western Front" compilation on the turntable and pretend it's 1982.

[stimbox]

81. My friend's band is on that! I wore that comp out.

Rebel Truth

[Throd]

82. My favorite was GDMFSOB by Bad Posture

"The Oven Is My Friend" was a twisted little ditty I loved as well.

I think I saw Rebel Truth at the Crest Theater way back in the day.

[stimbox]

96. I'm envious.

I never got to see Rebel Truth.
I became friends with the singer/guitarist after the fact.
The Crest, huh? I remember seeing X and the Flesheaters there.
Did you ever go to shows at Club Minimal?
All this talk of Not So Quiet On The Western Front reminded me to download it.

[Throd]

98. Never made it to Club Minimal

I saw a whole lotta shows at The Crest. I saw some shows at the Vortex. Saw Oingo Boingo at Galactica 2000. Saw a crazy show at a barn somewhere outside of Roseville. Ahh, the old days. Do you remember the Schmidt "sport packs" for $2.99? As much a mainstay of the Sacto punk scene as any band.

I'm looking for the Code of Honor album, but so far no luck.

[stimbox]

100. Oh yeah, the Vortograph.

Propholactica 2000!

I drank my share of Schmidt and Schaefer. :beer: :puke:

Is that the split LP with Sick Pleasure?

There are some Tartget Videos with Code of Honor and Sick Pleasure.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C6firTwZB28

Code Of Honor on myspace

http://www.myspace.com/codeofhonorbitches

[Throd]

105. Thanks for the links...

Didn't the singer for Sick Pleasure sound like Froggy from "Our Gang Comedy"?

[ghostsofgiants]

37. Husker Du deserves a mention as well.

[enigmatic]

45. The Dead Boys

And Siv Bators was punk's best frontman, bar none:

http://recluseshow.blogspot.com/2007/09/aint-it-fun-dead-boys.html

[mitchum]

62. He was certainly punk's best singer...he really did have some pipes

[Jamastiene]

48. Gabba Gabba Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need I say more?

[ET Awful]

53. T.S.O.L. is conspicuously absent as are the Vandals

:P

That said, I'd still vote for DK :)

[Merrick]

57. Agreed as far as

the Vandals are concerned. Probably should have put them on over NOFX. As for TSOL, maybe if there were 20 slots instead of just 10. Neither would've come close to winning though IMO.

[masshole]

54. The Buzzcocks weren't really punk

more power-pop IMO. Too many love-songs to be a punk band.

[kwassa]

56. Iggy Pop and the Stooges

no one more punk than Iggy.

except the original punks, the prior generation: the Stones, the Animals, the Yardbirds, the Who ...

[Jamastiene]

60. Iggy IS God.

That is all.

[abq e streeter]

83. And the punks before them too---Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Gene Vincent...

Ever seen a film or picture of Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps? If I was a parent back then , they would've scared the crap outta me.

[HuskerDU]

88. Amen abq!

And Eddie Cochran too. Those original rock-n-rollers were CRAZY! Gene Vincent's voice along scares the crap outta me. 'Something ain't right with that boy!'

[Tikki]

58. Bitchin'.....

X fan....

Tikki

[helderheid]

59. other - the Minutemen

[NoodleBoy]

63. you forgot Green Day!

just kidding man. please don't headbutt me and spit on my bleeding face for saying that.

[Jamastiene]

72. MUahahahahahaa

Green Day is great too. :P

[jmowreader]

64. Thank you for NOT putting Blink-182 on the list

Decent band...but...

* lead singer is too pretty to be punk--and the band is fronted by a guy.

* drummer Travis Barker is WAY overrated...he's good, mind you, but Josh Freese and Smelly from NOFX are both better punk drummers and Josh and Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater are better drummers overall.

* and any band that makes the freepers' Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs can't be a punk band anyway.

[Merrick]

67. Corporate formulations don't qualify

Lots of bad tats and affected whiny vocals don't a punk band make.

[JVS]

65. MURDER JUNKIES!

[stuntcat]

68. I pick Fugazi

:headbang: I'm jealous of my husband because he saw their live shows a lot of times. He saw the Damned too, which I was always feel some hate/envy over x(

[auburngrad82]

75. The Wipers

Big influence on Nirvana, Dinosaur Jr, etc.

http://www.zenorecords.com

But I do like the Sex Pistols, Ramones and the Clash.



Liberal bumper stickers

[sniffa]

77. misfits

i Listen to them everyday (the danzig era, of course).

[dembotoz]

78. boomtown rats

they were great in concert

[vi5]

79. I love all the choices but Black Flag is the one...

Everything about them was the embodiment of punk. Even their shambolic, drug fueled, metal tinged end was done on their own terms and to piss as many people off as possible. And that's punk.

[semillama]

87. Well, I picked Dead Kennedys

but really the greatest punk band of all time is Nomeansno. Deal with it.

[pnutbutr]

91. Pogues

I'm a huge fan of the Pogues and wanted to give them a mention even though they may not be the best.

Also have to give a shout to Crass.

[Greyskye]

99. All hail The Pogues

And welcome to DU!

[regnaD kciN]

106. Yes!!!

Let's hear it for Celtic Punk!!!

[NightWatcher]

93. this is not a FUGAZI post

[judaspriestess]

94. What no love for the Cro-Mags?

Circle Jerks? Bad Brains? Suicidal Tendencies?

[stimbox]

97. The Cro-Mags were INTENSE live.

Saw them open for GBH back in the day.

[Felix Mala]

95. The best punk bands had their lead singers and guitarists asphyxiate

before they got record contracts.

[atomic-fly]

101. the stranglers

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9jGqx3sqq-4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RyAGWyX7yYg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALPrZ3w7-1U
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bBcKVECSPkc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W4pkNcE8nsM

sure they mellowed out (even the clash went pop), but even their pop stuff had an edge to it.

[GirlinContempt]

104. Of the listed choices, Buzzcocks

Cause I feel like it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fiTWdZhqoc0

[Lethe]

107. Descendents

another great punk band.

I got high to Two Things At Once many, many times in my youth.

[stimbox]

108. Milo Goes To College

I listened to that tape so much in high school.
20 some year later I still have all of the lyrics memorized.