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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:49 PM
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question for those who have used a TENS unit for pain management
Am I doing something wrong?

If I have it turned up high enough even to touch the pain, I can't stand the shocks to my skin!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:54 PM
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1. Careful with a TENS
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 04:55 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
You can overstimulate sensory nerves.
Where are you using it? Back? Neck? Extremity?

On edit: If TNS isn't doing the trick, talk to your doc about an interferential unit...same concept but works on muscle stimulation rather than nerves with different waves of current.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:55 PM
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2. back
Lower left, just above my ass. The L5-S1 joint is fubar with arthritis.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:57 PM
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3. Try having Mrs. Venation move the electrodes
to areas less sensitive..experiment with moving them and try the mildest tolerable current for the longest time.

Sorry for your pain.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:06 PM
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4. thanks
Today one fell off, and when I tried to reposition it it shocked the hell out of my fingers. I'd forgotten to turn the damned thing off.

It's so much fun being me!
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:29 PM
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11. I use the TENS
I've 6 ruptured discs, and the pain for each disc is constant and horrible. I started to use TENS earlier this month. I primarily apply the TENS for the L5-S1 disc because it seems as if the meds refuse to work there, though I know I'm in pass out stage if I don't take them. Like NSMA said find a place that is less sensitive and you won't have the shocks. Press the pads on well to keep them from falling off. I don't take mine off until they're ready to fall off. Try not to turn it up so high either.

I tell you what, the TENS is like a miracle. One day, not long ago, all my meds (Ibuprofen, Vicoden and Time-released Morphine) just would not take the edge off (big weather change, and the barometric was off the wall, ever-changing). I put that TENS on, and voila, I was able to have some semblance of life quality around the house. With the TENS, I am able to sit, stand and lay down for longer lengths of time before having to change position - that in itself is a dream.

How long did your doctor tell you you can keep it turned on? My pain specialist said I can run it constantly, if needed, though I don't.

Good luck to you, we can comiserate together. < sigh >
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:33 PM
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12. I Use Mine 12 Hours a Day
I put it on before I leave home in the morning, and usually take it off as soon as I get home. Usually by then, the electrodes are starting to itch.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:07 PM
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5. My son used one for his football injury.. It "saved" his arm muscles
He had a Brachial Plexus injury and his right arm was paralyzed from the back of his neck, across the shoulder and his whole arm.. He had mobility of the mid-hand and fingers.. It took months, but the damaged nerve regenerated, and the muscle stimulation from the shock-thingie kept the arm "alive".. He made a 95% recovery, but it took about 16 months..

We rented one from the pharmacy. (not covered by insurance) for $108.00 a month.. Bastards.. after we were done renting it, they had the nerve to ask if we wanted to buy one for $299.00.. Of course they did not offer us the option of buying it when we first went there..

It was a passive galvanic neuro stimulator... different from a tens.. but it was very effective
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:12 PM
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6. LOOK INTO Neuromodulation
Both Medtronic and Advanced Neuromodulation Systems make

implatable drug pumps for chronic pain and SPINAL-CORD STIMULATION devices for chronic pain

especially for back pain
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:14 PM
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7. Is it any good for back pain?
Ank has a back problem

http://www.inlandneuro.org/spondylosis_spondylolisthesis_full.htm

that leaves him in constant pain.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:21 PM
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8. Yes, it does work, but I have to turn it up
pretty high for it to be effective.

If Ank is thinner than I, he might have better results. Because I wonder if the stim doesn't get through the fat. :eyes:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:24 PM
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9. Meaningless? Useless?
http://clinical.uthscsa.edu/handouts/ortho/backpain.pdf

In don't understand what he's trying to say when he says spondylosis is "meaningless" in adults.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:28 PM
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10. I Had to Experiment With Mine
After a week or two, i discovered the best places to stick the electrodes so they do the most good. Basically, they wind up just under the waistband for by briefs.

I also had to start using larger electrodes. When I first got my unit, they provided 2-inch round electrodes that slid off in hot weather. When I complained, they substituted 2x4-inch electrodes, which work much better.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:36 PM
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13. guess it depends on your threshold for pain..
I used to beg my PT to crank it up all the way while rehabbing my knee.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:39 PM
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14. TENS and I don't get along
I never could remember to be still when I was lying on it, and would always end up fidgeting and coming up off the pads and getting the living bejesus shocked out of me. I did not find that therapeutic (I HATE electric shock, hate it hate it hate it). I had much better response to a combination of ultrasound and heat.

You may not be doing it long enough at a time, though - turn it down but leave it on for much longer and see if that helps at all.
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