Vincent Gallo's website....is he serious?

[idgiehkt]

I have heard rumor of this site but never seen it with my own eyes until now. I'm talking about the part where he offers his services for $50,000 a night and his sperm for a million.

I don't detect a hint of irony....

:scared:

http://www.vgmerchandise.com/store/pages.php?pageid=4
I, Vincent Gallo, star of such classics as Buffalo 66 and The Brown Bunny have decided to make myself available to all women. All women who can afford me, that is. For the modest fee of $50,000 plus expenses, I can fulfill the wish, dream, or fantasy of any naturally born female. The fee covers one evening with Vincent Gallo. For those who wish to enjoy my company for a weekend, the fee is increased to a mere $100,000. Heavy set, older, red heads and even black chicks can have me if they can pay the bill. No real female will be refused. However, I highly frown upon any male having even the slightest momentary thought or wish that they could ever become my client. No way Jose. However, female couples of the lesbian persuasion can enjoy a Vincent Gallo evening together for $100,000. $200,000 buys the lesbos a weekend. A weekend that will have them second-guessing.

Potential clients are advised to screen the controversial scene from The Brown Bunny to be sure for themselves that they can fully accommodate all of me. Clients who have doubt may want to test themselves with an unusually thick and large prosthetic prior to meeting me. You may be surprised just how much you can handle and how good it feels.

but wait, there's more:


Vincent Gallo's Sperm

$1,000,000.00

Mr. Gallo is 5'11" and has blue eyes. There are no known genetic deformities in his ancestry (no cripples) and no history of congenital diseases. If you have seen The Brown Bunny, you know the potential size of the genitals if it's a boy. (8 inches if he's like his father.) I don't know exactly how a well hung father can enhance the physical makeup of a female baby, but it can't hurt. Mr. Gallo also presently maintains a distinctively full head of hair and at the age of 43 has surprisingly few gray hairs. Though his features are sharp and extreme, they would probably blend well with a softer, more subtly featured female. Mr. Gallo maintains the right to refuse sale of his sperm to those of extremely dark complexions. Though a fan of Franco Harris, Derek Jeter, Lenny Kravitz and Lena Horne, Mr. Gallo does not want to be part of that type of integration. In fact, for the next 30 days, he is offering a $50,000 discount to any potential female purchaser who can prove she has naturally blonde hair and blue eyes. Anyone who can prove a direct family link to any of the German soldiers of the mid-century will also receive this discount. Under the laws of the Jewish faith, a Jewish mother would qualify a baby to be deemed a member of the Jewish religion. This would be added incentive for Mr. Gallo to sell his sperm to a Jew mother, his reasoning being with the slim chance that his child moved into the profession of motion picture acting or became a musical performer, this connection to the Jewish faith would guarantee his offspring a better chance at good reviews and maybe even a prize at the Sundance Film Festival or an Oscar.

that is one of the scariest things I've read in a long time. I really wanted to believe it was a joke, but the racism...christ.

[Reverend_Smitty]

1. Wonder where he stole this idea from...

[idgiehkt]

3. No, I think Gallow did this long before Colbert even had a show.

I always thought it was a rumor or an exaggeration, but I was reading someone's blog today and they had it linked. it's even worse than I thought. I really liked Gallow in "Truth or Consequences, New Mexico". Keifer Sutherland gives a great performance in that film too, one of his best. But that stuff at the link is worse than I could have imagined.

hmmm...apparently Sutherland directed that film. He did a good job.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120383/

[Reverend_Smitty]

4. well then...he is absolutely insane!

[VenusRising]

2. Ummmm.....

:scared:

I apparently lack all semblence of taste, because I would make him pay me! :puke:


ETA: Hi idgie!!!! :hi::hug::hug::hug::hug:

[idgiehkt]

5. hey!

good to see you. :hi:

Yeah, I always believed that was just a rumor about him offering those 'services'. Apparently not. I knew he was a repuke, but I didn't know how racist and sick he is. It's really sad, and it makes me wonder what could have happened to him to make him so twisted.

[VenusRising]

7. Good to see you, too!!

I hadn't heard anything about him until you posted this.

There was a blank spot in my head that could have been filled with something more useful. :P :rofl:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

6. I have never

heard of this crazy bastard until you posted this.

I decided to look at his website http://www.vincentgallo.com/home.html --- He is beyond egocentric - He is INSANE.

Apparently he is a actor of sorts - Looking at info on the www, I see he has been in a bunch of movies that I, being me, have not seen and for the most part never even heard of. He was in Goodfellas - which was back in '90 -

He is one sick MONKEY

[idgiehkt]

10. He is famous for having been fellated on camera by Chloe Sevingy in "Brown Bunny"

I thought that was a rumor as well but I went to google images to find a photo of him and one of the first images that popped up was that scene, and it doesn't look like a photoshop. If anyone knows that scene was faked for sure please post as I am a great fan of Chloe Sevingy and hate to think she'd do this guy.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

14. Thank you....

I do appreciate being enlightened... Even if it is about this guy....

I saw the same "image" and need to poke my eyes out now.

[AllegroRondo]

25. according to Wiki, its the real thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo%C3%AB_Sevigny

[idgiehkt]

29. wow.

bummer. He had to be her boyfriend. She tries to justify it...I'm not judging her on a morality basis I just think it was culturally naive of her to do. He denies a relationship but I tell you she had to be mightily in love with that man to do such a thing. He has his charms; his performance in "Truth or Consequences" is quite tender.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

113. I hope yo' are kidding....

she had to be "in love" to blow the idiot?

I think not....

The only thing he had to do was hold still for about 3 minutes.

[swag]

38. They really do come in all shapes and sizes, don't they?

[idgiehkt]

43. and hues.

:rofl: :hi:

[swag]

52. I thought his looked like a lopsided russet potato with glans protruding.

[Heddi]

110. The scene is real

they were boyfriend/girlfriend at the time when the movie was shot

[MrCoffee]

116. it's the real deal

[ThomCat]

8. Oh Dear Me! He won't consider me as a client because i'm a guy.

I feel SO horribly deprived. How will I ever survive my disappointment? :eyes:

[idgiehkt]

17. it occurred to me as I was reading it

that it sounds like he's protesting a bit too much. :hi:

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

9. Wait...

Read the follwing lines:

"Potential clients are advised to screen the controversial scene from The Brown Bunny to be sure for themselves that they can fully accommodate all of me."

"There are no known genetic deformities in his ancestry (no cripples)."

"However, female couples of the lesbian persuasion can enjoy a Vincent Gallo evening together for $100,000. $200,000 buys the lesbos a weekend. A weekend that will have them second-guessing."


You don't detect a hint of irony? Are you feeling alright? That shit's hilarious.


Edit: Let me clarify that the "cripples" comment wasn't hilarious. I just thought it was an obvious sign that this was meant to be ironic.

[idgiehkt]

12. read further

where he expresses his anti-semitism and says that people who can prove lineage to mid-century 'german soldiers' (read Nazi's) will get a discount. He's a repuke and has Bush/Reagan artwork on that site.

[ThomCat]

19. Wow. So he's offering his sacred sperm to revive the master race?

I didn't think I could get any more disgusted. I guess I was wrong. :puke:

[idgiehkt]

34. I've only seen him in one movie

and you would never guess something like this could come out of him based on that performance, which is really tender. In that movie, Keifer Sutherland plays a psychopathic coked-up killer and Gallo is the 'conscience' among the villans, the thinker, the 'voice of reason'. :rofl:

That movie is worth watching just for Sutherland's performance. It has a 'normal' couple who gets kidnapped by the thugs and the male in the group starts emulating his kidnappers. I've seen it twice and might watch it again (Truth or Consequences). But I'd have to hold my nose knowing this stuff about Gallo.

[skypilot]

20. I think it's a joke.

The part where he talks about fathering a child with a Jewish woman thus improving the child's chances of winning an Oscar and getting good reviews should he/she go into show business doesn't sound the least bit serious to me. I know that this guy is a bit of a whack job but I don't think any of this is meant to be taken seriously.

[idgiehkt]

28. that is a right wing talking point

"The Jews run Hollywood". Probably bitterness about how the Brown Bunny was ripped to shreds by critics (it was his 'masterpiece' and it was soundly thrashed, were it not for the blowjob scene it wouldn't even be noteworthy).

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

23. I think he's having you on....

[idgiehkt]

27. could be, but I doubt it.

People who are being sarcastic or writing in satire would never leave something that ambiguous an open to interpretation, unless they are performance artists. And I think a conservative who was not racist would make doubly sure to not be misunderstood as an anti-semite; one of their talking points is that 'Hollywood is controlled by Jews', which he says every so subtly in his little spiel about sperm.

I'm really curious as to whether he's gotten many offers.
Apparently he has a cult following.

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

30. ...

"People who are being sarcastic or writing in satire would never leave something that ambiguous an open to interpretation, unless they are performance artists. "

Unless, he's not a gifted satirist.

Unless, he doesn't give a shit if he's misinterpreted as sincere.

Unless, he enjoys the controversy.

Unless, he enjoys having you on.

[idgiehkt]

32. I'm flattered

I had no idea it was directed at me. :rofl:

People who tend not to 'give a shit' whether their racist slurs are 'misinterpreted' or not tend to be racist.

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

35. He also says he wants to look more like George Will

Here's George Will:



Here's Vincent Gallo:

[idgiehkt]

40. I wondered about that

he talked about that in the imdb profile, about having a "different face" as a child and being "more attractive" at one time.

When I read one quote after the other of his, there is no coherent strain of thought or philosophy at all, just contradictory ramblings. Probably a manic-depressive, at best.


Almost the images I've seen so far of Gallo online are not flattering; on camera his appearance is much softer, he doesn't have the hard, semi-deranged look shown in the photo you posted.

[EstimatedProphet]

39. Case in point: A Modest Proposal

[idgiehkt]

41. bite your tongue

that is one of the best pieces of satire ever produced.

Swift is turning over in his grave right about now.

[EstimatedProphet]

46. I'm not comparing the WORKS, I'm comparing the EFFORTS.

Satire is often lost on people. A Modest Proposal is famous for making people who have no sense of humor scream in outrage.

[idgiehkt]

48. Calling Gallow a 'bad satirist' is probably one of the nicest things anyone has

said about him in a while. Swift is one of my heroes, I cringe a the though of them being mentioned in the same breath. I don't think it's a valid comparison, though, even if it is generous to Gallo.

[EstimatedProphet]

64. Again, I'm not trying to campare the two.

I never heard of Gallo before today. I am trying to compare the effect of satire. Sometimes people use it to fool people. A Modest Proposal, whether it was intended to fool people or not, often tends to do so.

[idgiehkt]

72. "A Modest Proposal" is brilliant

But there is no evidence that Gallo is being satirical. The hustling/whoring ad I don't care about, the anti-semitism and racism I believe from everything I've read online since I posted this, is genuine. He's apparently like a actor version of Ted Nugent.

[EstimatedProphet]

81. OK. Yeah. Fine.

I'd say the satire might constitute evidence he's being satirical, but if you want to be convinced he's a freeper, it really doesn't matter to me. Like I said, I never even heard of the guy before today. I don't have a dog in this fight. Feel free to make whatever judgements you want.

[idgiehkt]

86. 'convinced he's a freeper'?

Have you not read the quotes? He openly supports Bush. Why do you want so badly to believe otherwise...there is something I'm missing here. We don't have these kinds of battles about Ted Nugent; people don't insist his inane ramblings are 'satire'.

[EstimatedProphet]

94. I quit

You win. Sarcasm doesn't exist.

[idgiehkt]

97. Oh it does

But that doesn't mean that it's always there just because one thinks it is. I'd like to know one way or the other; when it comes to racism, homophobia and anti-semitism, I'm not kind enough to give people unearned 'benefit of the doubt'.

If I found out Gallo was 'just joking', I would hope he'd get educated that he can make his point perfectly well without using some of the terminology he does. That turns people off and alienates him from what would be his audience if he were being satirical.

[ThomCat]

115. Sarcasm exists, but I agree that that site is not sarcasm

or satire.

I think far too often people make up defenses for bigotry, and just assume it must be satire when it clearly isn't.

[skypilot]

33. "...unless they are performance artists."

I'm pretty sure that that is what this guy is trying to be. He's some weird combination of Andy Kauffman, Crispin Glover, and God knows what. I remember reading an interview with him years ago where he talked about how well he was received and treated by the gay community when he moved to New York, but somewhere along the way he's decided that the "persona" of his should be a bit homophobic. I don't know what this "performance" is all about but I don't think you can take anything this guy says seriously. You certainly shouldn't bother to get too offended by it.

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

36. Thanks for posting.

:thumbsup:

[idgiehkt]

37. this is a dated posting

I was hoping someone here would be able to produce a quote or have some knowledge that Gallo is not being serious. Not conjecture or wishful thinking, or pooh-poohing his racist and anti-semitic remarks, but real evidence Gallo has disowned this stuff. I'm almost starting to wonder why some people seem almost afraid to consider someone might actually think this way. By rights, this is probably how our president and most of his administration feel (the likes of whom Gallo is a great fan of).

No offence, but I find this:
"You certainly shouldn't bother to get too offended by it."

a bit of a strange thing to say.

on edit:

what you've read of Gallo re: his attitude toward the gay community doesn't even make any sense.

[EstimatedProphet]

44. That's kind of like expecting Paul Rubens to disown Pee-Wee Herman

If this guy has put an effort into developing a character, it would make no sense to disown it.

[idgiehkt]

47. PeeWee Herman

was a fictional character. There is a line between the character in and the actor. Ruebens doesn't have a hint of PeeWeee in "Blow" or try to incorporate some "Playhouse" into that film. When he got busted wanking at the movies, he didn't invoke PeeWee as an excuse. Ruebens doen't claim to 'be' PeeWee, conversely I've seen nothing to indicate claiming Gallo not to be Gallo.

I think people are being intentionally obtuse. My question about the 'is he serious' part was more concerned with the offering of the sperm and sexual services for those huge sums of money. It's my experience that people who are not bigoted don't like to leave ambiguous quotes like that unexplained, especially if they have a career in the public arena where statements like that could be self-destructive, and the resentful anti-semitic comments kind of underscore that he's a typical winger, though maybe far to the right of many.

Probably just mentally ill if the truth be told

[EstimatedProphet]

71. If he is trying, for some reason, to project a fictional image

then he is not likely to simply drop it somewhere. Another example already mentioned: Crispin Glover. He tries to project an image of a complete weirdo. Is he one? I don't know.

If Gallo is trying to project an image of weirdness for some reason, then he is unlikely to simply put up a sarcasm smilie at the end of it. If it is your experience that people who are not bigoted go out of their way to explain an ambiguous quote, then maybe your experience is wrong - that sounds a lot more like someone who is defensive and is afraid to be seen as a bigot.

[idgiehkt]

74. Sigh...

What I'm saying is I haven't seen any evidence anywhere that this is 'projecting an image', 'satire' etc...all I see is article after article underscoring that these are his genuine beliefs and this is his attitude.

I think your last sentence is naive. Are you saying that someone who works in the public arena would make racist and anti-semitic remarks repeatedly over the years and leave them unattested...that seems incredibly self-destructive and counterproductive for someone who is capable of inspiring this article:

We just love Vincent Gallo. We love that he's an actor/artist/musician, and can pull off that triptych without looking like Ethan Hawke. We love that in addition to selling his art on his Web site, he also sells his spunk for an icy $1 million. And we love that he offers to serve as a male escort to any gal willing to pay his "modest" $50,000 fee: "Heavy set, older, red heads and even black chicks can have me if they can pay the bill," he says on VincentGallo.com. "No real female will be refused."

Subject(s): Keeling on Vincent Gallo So, since we're such big Gallo fans, we looked forward to interviewing the star of Buffalo 66 and The Brown Bunny (the one where he gets a blowjob from Chloe Sevigny) about his upcoming gig at the Mission Creek Music & Arts Festival later this month. Imagine our heartbreak when we got this tragic news from the festival's warlords: Gallo won't grant media interviews unless the publication guarantees to put him on its cover. Shit, we thought.

Chock-full of tenacity, we tried tracking down his PR people or an assistant. Surprisingly, he has neither. In desperation, we sent him a groveling e-mail, figuring the great Gallo would never get back to us. But this Sunday morning, as we were coiled on the couch, repeatedly watching the MacArthur Maze melt on KRON 4, we get a phone call from the man himself. Holy shit, we thought.

Unexpectedly friendly and forthcoming, we spoke for a glorious 30 minutes. Well, he did most of the speaking. What with Gallo on the phone and the MacArthur Maze collapsing on TV, we were busy waiting for a unicorn to gallop through the door at any second. And we'd love to tell you what we talked about, but he requested that our conversation be off the record. Shit, again.

Well, Vincent, our chat will have to remain a private thing between us because we won't put you on the cover of our paper. Our journalistic standards are too high to let a celeb — even one we love as much as you — tell us what to do. Who do you think we are? Chloe Sevigny?
http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-05-02/news/sunday-surprise/



To me, comic schtick is someone like Lisa Lampanelli. She may even have a point. She may even think she's getting a message across. She grates on me, I think she's reactionary, but in her mind, she may have some kind of idea her tack is valid.

[EstimatedProphet]

89. Whatever

Feel free to believe that he absolutely has to be a persona that he projects, just because he doesn't scream that he isn't, and that believing that he has to be makes other people intentionally obtuse and naive. Feel free to not get the fact that every single thing you have said is your opinion, you even say so, yet somehow you think that everyone else should have it or else they're wrong.

It's very simple. He just might be pulling an elaborate stunt, he wouldn't necessarily reveal it, and you simply may not get it. That's sometimes the way the world works.

[idgiehkt]

92. I understand that perfectly well

That is why I went looking for evidence in support of that. Have you? Has anyone who has argued that he is a satirist? No one is bringing anything to the table except their hunches and assumptions, and telling me I 'don't get it'. I'm perfectly willing to accept that if it's proven, but not at face value just because 'somebody said so'. The way I understand debate is you take a position and you defend it. No one is defending their position that Gallo is a satirist with anything other than the pronouncement 'because I said so'. That just doesn't cut it.

[EstimatedProphet]

99. LALALALALALALALALA I'm not listening

[idgiehkt]

101. that

I already knew.

[skypilot]

45. I don't know what else to tell you.

The whole tone of Gallo's piece comes off as satirical to me. I don't get the sense that this is anything he has to "disown" because I don't think it is serious. You apparently take it VERY seriously and maybe that is part of Gallo's intention: to fool some people into thinking that this is what he's really like.

And I don't know what this means:

what you've read of Gallo re: his attitude toward the gay community doesn't even make any sense.

He said in the interview that he met and hung out with a lot of gay men when he moved to New York and that they were all very nice to him. What doesn't make sense about that?

[idgiehkt]

54. a few points

I'm taking the debate about this seriously. The website posting, which may or may not have been authored by Gallo, but which he certainly approves or it would have been pulled by now I don't know what to think about. That's why I asked if anyone knew of any evidence to point to whether this was a serious posting. Not conjecture, or guesswork, but a link with a quote from him saying something like "naw, I was just taking the piss out of y'all talking about the lesbos and black chicks and stay away from me darkies but if you got nazi blood look me up".

It is not a 'piece'. It's an ad on a website that sells other things such as clothing and artwork (including a parka that has the images of Reagan and Bush calling the former a "legend" and the latter a "hero").
Because other people on this thread don't believe it is serious in tone, does not mean I take it VERY seriously. This whole post was supposed to be light in tone.
I've met many bigots who think that gay people are 'nice'. I'm not sure what that statement has to do with anything. It might help people to understand to know a little about the film Brown Bunny and what Gallo's intent in the making of it was and what the reviews were like, I have read some of them and part of why it was panned so badly was because of what reviewers said was Gallo's obvious fascination with himself and clear lack of a sense of humor or perspective about himself. He seems to be rather a one-dimensional person in real life, and satire is something that takes a bit of intellect and depth to produce.

[skypilot]

62. "It's not a 'piece'. It's an ad on a website..."

This is where we'll just have to agree to disagree. To me it IS just a piece masquerading as an ad--an ad that no one in their right mind would respond to seriously. In my opinion the piece speaks for itself as to whether or not it is a "serious posting".

[idgiehkt]

66. lol, nope, he actually put his 'ad' on E-bay.

The man is a complete loon.

Some stories to SFGate seem to attest to that.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/category?blogid=7&cat=298

"I really didn't understand what was going on most of the time working with a crazy lunatic man. I'd never encountered such insanity. (Gallo said) horrible things"
Christina Ricci. (more at links)

another gem:

'He tells Page Six, "With the psychotic, middle-aged Madonna out there on the loose buying up all the stolen Negro babies in Africa, I felt it my social and humanitarian duty to take in any young, beautiful and sexy orphaned Jew teens running wild in Beverly Hills." (about sleeping with an underaged girl) (that is from the second link)

aack, I'm wasting my life googling about his. I keep thinking surely somewhere on the web there will be evidence this is 'art', 'performance art', 'satire', etc.

[skypilot]

73. I'm sure he's a complete loon.

And he's enjoying being a loon. That's his schtick and apparently he'll go all the way to Ebay with it. I still don't take him seriously.

[idgiehkt]

75. really, you think he's enjoying it?

Based on his quotes, I'd say he's pretty miserable. I don't know whether to take him seriously or not, but I'd like to read something somewhere saying it's not his real philosophy. I can't understand people not caring whether someone who makes racist, homophobic and anti-semitic remarks is 'serious' or not. I can understand wanting to rationalize and deny, but apathy about stuff like this is foreign to me coming from progressives.

[skypilot]

78. I'm a black, gay man...

...so I'm not apathetic about stuff like this. To me this guy is doing the same kind of thing that Stephen Colbert does. People can argue endlessly about whether he's as good or clever as Colbert but the point is that I don't get upset with him and the things that he says for the same reason that I don't get upset with Colbert: it's a character he's playing. There are bigots out there who are NOT playing at being bigots and I'm hardly apathetic towards them.

[idgiehkt]

83. What I was curious about

is whether anyone had ever heard that Gallo posted these things on his site in satire. No one has come up with *any* evidence that he is not dead serious. All the links I've pulled and posted from google seem to support his being absolutely serious, racist, right-wing, and just about completely insane. Steven Colbert is defintely someone that could be compared to Johnathan Swift, Colbert is a genius. But I know Colbert would be bothered if someone believed he was serious if he made bigoted remarks of any kind, because his public persona actively opposes that line of thinking. He's a comedian but he is an activist comedian whose existence is devoted to fighting the kind of philosophy that Gallo appears to have. Oranges and Apples.

[skypilot]

93. As I've already said...

...the piece is so over the top and obvious in its racial "attitude" that it is clear to me that it is an attempt at satire. I don't need any other assurances. If Gallo is in fact a raving, racist loon I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. He's not exactly a big name and I doubt I'll be running into him any time soon. But, again, I think it's all an big performance piece.

[idgiehkt]

98. that's interesting

if anything I would say it was more subtle than someone like Ted Nugent, were I to god forbid (in his view) accuse him of satire, the words "over the top and obvious" are what I would use, but that's because we get more of him in the media, I suppose. I see alot of willing suspension of disbelief here in this thread...I can't understand it except that it's just an easier path intellectually.

[skypilot]

104. an easier path intellectually.

Gee, thanks.

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

91. The difference between Colbert and Gallo is that

Colbert ends each show by saying, "By the way, folks, this isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's satire."

Err...doesn't he?

[idgiehkt]

95. No, the difference is that Colbert is an avowed liberal

Who worked on the Daily Show for many years, is a political activist and who openly takes the future of this country very seriously. There is no gray area about his where his beliefs lie.

I understand believing or wanting to believe that Gallo is being satirical. But I don't understand denying evidence to the contrary, or still believing this is satire despite all evidence to the contrary. It seems a curious attachment and those are dangerous to have.

[skypilot]

96. He might want to start...

...just to be on the safe side.

[ThomCat]

117. Wow. You're comparing that site to Colbert?

:wow:

That site doesn't strike me as satire at all. I don't think he's trying to be funny. I think he's trying to be serious, but he's too much of a bufoon to do it well.

I think he's a bigot. I think he's an arrogant bigot who's very full of himself.

[skypilot]

120. No, I'm NOT comparing the site to Colbert.

I'm comparing him to Colbert based on the fact that they both play characters who are right-wing nut jobs. Everyone knows that Colbert is not serious but there seems to be some debate on whether or not Gallo is. As far as I see it he is not. Everything I see there strikes me as a joke including that ugly gray parka with images of Reagan and Bush that he's trying to sell for $650.00. As I said in another post on this thread, the joke would be on the person who bought that thing and I think that's the point. I really don't understand why people are taking this stuff seriously.

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

85. "apathy about stuff like this is foreign to me coming from progressives."

As is your willful naivete.

[idgiehkt]

88. my willful naivete is foreign to me coming from progressives?

come again?

Listen, I'm the one who is sitting here punching Vincent Gallo into google over and over again trying to find some evidence to support the arguments of people who to me seem to be willfully naive and overly attached to someone for no reason. And I haven't found any evidence to support the claim that Gallo is not serious. All I wanted was a link, or two, a couple little linkys to suggest that Gallo is joking. And there is nothing out there but evidence that he is a loon, and a racist one at that. But if anyone finds anything, please post it.

[EstimatedProphet]

11. I wonder if he's a relative of Jerry Gallo

[DS1]

13. We should set up a fund drive, then put in an order for his mother

[Fran Kubelik]

15. You are a diabolical genius

:thumbsup:
I'm in for $100.

[idgiehkt]

16. lol

I bet mom doesn't claim him.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

18. From his IMDB profile:

"I feel very happy that Bush is our president. One way that you can tell we have a good president, is by how much the French dislike him. The more the French hate him, the better he must be. And they hate this one."

:puke:

[idgiehkt]

24. strange

is IMDB kind of open like wikipedia is? I read this there too:

"A man who hates many, Vincent Gallo has an underground cult. Of late he has been working on his second directorial feature, The Brown Bunny (2003). He recently released "Recordings of Music for a Film", which is some of his older music work remastered. A lover of the finer things in life, he adores women, but can't seem to find the one he's looking for, and he will ever be known as the man of many talents."

:wtf:

I just assumed that they wouldn't allow people to fawn over themselves but I guess not.

wow, reading his quotes I'm thinking severe child abuse or mental illness or a combo of both

"I don't trust or love anyone. Because people are so creepy. Creepy creepy creeps. Creeping around. Creeping here and creeping there. Creeping everywhere. Crippity crappity creepies."

"I'm the happiest the saddest guy in the world can be."

"I came to New York to be a legend, and within five minutes of realizing I was an interesting kid and other people thought so, I had given myself a nervous breakdown. I was 26 years old before I knew what it was like to have an ordinary day."

can you translate this:
I sold The Brown Bunny camera package because I had organized it so methodically, so precisely, that I couldn't let anyone touch it, scratch it, or break it up. I just had to get it out of my life. The package was sold to Sage Stallone who's one of my favorite people in this whole world, one of the smartest, young, goofy kids I've ever known in my whole life. So it went to like my hero."

what is a 'camera package'?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

26. I'm assuming it refers to the blocking/visual set-up he had for the movie.

[gmoney]

21. Isn't this illegal?

Not that I care, but soliciting money for sex is still illegal, no?

Of course, if someone just turns on a video camera during the act, it can magically become a motion picture performance. Wonder if you get the rights to that for the $50K?

[mainegreen]

22. Sadly, IQ is not part of the package.

So your kid may look like an attractive heroin junkie, but will probably be too stupid to survive in the wild.

[triguy46]

31. There's so much to dislike here, its hard to focus!

but here is a start: "right to refuse sale of his sperm to those of extremely dark complexions" but no, I think I'll start with "this connection to the Jewish faith would guarantee his offspring a better chance at good reviews and maybe even a prize at the Sundance Film Festival or an Oscar."

This guy absolutely must be the worst person in the world.

[Fran Kubelik]

42. Is he pals with Crispin Glover?

They share a similar shtick.

It's almost funny, but not really very clever.

[skypilot]

53. I compared him to Crispin Glover...

...and Andy Kauffman in an earlier post on this thread. I do think that that is the kind of thing he's going for.

[Fran Kubelik]

57. I should read before I post

:blush:

He wants to be talked about. Looks like he has succeeded. :shrug:

[idgiehkt]

58. Is Glover a bigot?

I'm curious, the only thing I've ever seen him do was almost kick David Letterman in the face...I saw that live, right before Letterman threw him off the show. I think Glover is definietly a 'tortured genius' type, but I hadn't heard if he has any history of bigotry or controversial statements.

[skypilot]

69. Oh, God Lord.

You really seem to be intent on enjoying your outrage. I don't know that Crispin Glover is a bigot and I don't really think that Gallo is one either. As far as I can tell he's playing a character. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I don't think I am. The things in that post were SO over the top and obvious that in my mind there is no way he meant them seriously or expected anyone to fork over thousand of dollars to spend time with him and have his baby.

Fork over thousands of dollars to spend time with him and have his baby. It felt silly just typing that.

[idgiehkt]

76. Please read this thread again.

There is no "outrage" anywhere on this thread. I don't understand why people who engage in debate and are asked to defend their assumptions assign invalid emotional reactions to people who disagree with them.

My question about Glover was serious. I have always considered myself a fan of his but that would change if I found out he's been running around talking about having sex with "orphaned Jew babies".

[LynneSin]

49. This is a man who is selling THIS for $650 (warning - potential dangerous gag reflex - warning)

[skypilot]

51. And the joke...

...would be on the person who actually paid him $650.00 for that. I'd love to make a few hundred bucks from some dumb freeper who'd pay me for that ugly thing.

[Burma Jones]

50. Lame Performance Art

that's what it looks like to me.....

[Felix Mala]

55. I actually like Brown Bunny only because I felt so sorry for him...

Now I don't think I can ever watch him again. This is gross, whether a joke or not...

[idgiehkt]

59. felt sorry for him or the character?

Was his performance bad, or was it because the character's life was so messed up. He's a good actor, I think. The critics said the film was way too long and way too obsessed with minutiae.

[Felix Mala]

80. the Character... Ebert gave it no stars after seeing it at Toronto, I believe,

then he gave the re-cut four stars after 45 minutes was lopped off. I saw the tighter cut and enjoyed it very much - and I'm not just talking about the ending...

[idgiehkt]

90. wow, 45 minutes

It is hard for people to understand sometimes that they are not good critics of their own work. Gallo wasn't just panned, he was basically tarred and feathered. And I think it really shocked him. I believe he actually put out a public apology for the first version of the film, it seems to me that I read that somewhere.

[LaraMN]

56. Omg! Lol!

As if, on my worst day, even if WERE single, I would ever PAY to get with *that*



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[idgiehkt]

61. I was pretty surprised when I found out he is a repuke

He is actually very attractive on camera, has some big beautiful blue eyes and kind of reminds me of Viggo Mortenson's character in "The Perfect Murder".

[LaraMN]

63. That'll kill it real quick!

Pretty eyes or not, he's a fah-reak (and not the good kind!)
Yikes.

[idgiehkt]

68. yep

I feel almost like I sinned for lusting after him in "Truth or Consequences". I would still watch it again. Keifer Sutherland is mind-numblingly psycho in that film. :hi:

[devilgrrl]

60. Oh! Vincent Gallo - he's so EDGY!!!!

[idgiehkt]

67. Word cannot express how in awe of you I am right now.

Seriously. Emoticons: when words just won't do.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[XemaSab]

102. Must have this emoticon.

:D

[ghostsofgiants]

65. Dude is batshit insane...

But Buffalo '66 is a great film.

[SteppingRazor]

70. Seriously? You don't detect any irony there?

In the picture that goes with the escort ad, he's wearing a sailor suit, for God's sake. :eyes:

[idgiehkt]

77. not there,

and not anywhere else online, and I have looked.

I can see him bragging about his sexual prowess in a satirical way, but the bigoted remarks are crossing the line. Let's see, he doesn't care if he offends, lesbians, Jews, Blacks, and admits sleeping with underage "Jew babies".
I guess I've stumbled into the wrong demographic if those things don't raise some red flags for people. (In fairness they do for most of the people that posted).

[SteppingRazor]

84. It's Vincent Gallo. Saying ridiculously offensive things is what he does.

And he does it to get reactions just like yours. Hell, The Brown Bunny only included it's most famous scene (the Chloe Sevigny blowjob) for controversy's sake, as far as I'm concerned.

He said all the things you mentioned for the same reasons he said he wants to be as Republican as possible, or that he stopped painting out of spite, to deny everyone his artwork.

And, really? the photo isn't there? It's there when I click on your link. :shrug:

[idgiehkt]

100. no, I can see the photo

I meant I didn't know how to take the posting and I went looking for evidene that he is not an insane wingnut and there is none to be found.

I haven't heard he stopped 'painting out of spite'. Spite? lolol.

I'm curious about the 'reactions like yours' part of your post...is it wrong to wonder if someone is a racist homophobe and want evidence to the contrary? I'd love to believe he's taking the piss out but no one's produced any evidence. I'm not sure what 'reaction' that qualifies me as having. :shrug:

[SteppingRazor]

108. No, it is certainly not wrong to wonder.

And, were we in a less cynical, jaded society, your reaction would be getting the approbation of DUers, rather than being on the receiving end of somewhat snide posts like my previous one. Actually, it says a lot of positive things about you as a person that you recoil so much from someone who says all these things.

All that said, we do live in a cynical, jaded society, and particularly if you follow pop culture a lot and are aware of Gallo's previous statements and acts (like the artwork statement, which I think was one of his more humorous lines), you know the dude's just an enfant terrible type and he uses these statements to garner press and attention. It worked for The Brown Bunny, a pretty awful movie that, due to one shocking scene, gained way more attention than it should have.

It also helps to know of some of the guy's previous work with provocateurs, folks like Rockets Redglare, and that whole deliberately offensive, somewhat punky NYC scene.

In any case, all I'm saying is, I'd take this with a grain of salt.

[SouthoftheBorderPaul]

79. Shut up, we're reveling in outrage

and you're fucking it up!

[SteppingRazor]

87. Sorry, you're right.

I was better off just leaving this thread to the easily outraged and irony deficient. :P


Actually, how about if I just turn up the volume of my complaints? What if I become INCREDIBLY OUTRAGED that everyone is so easily outraged by these outrageous remarks? Would I be better off then?

[idgiehkt]

106. someone needs to get outraged

since it's yet another claim of something on this thread, like satire, that hasn't been proven, but people still insist is in evidence. And look, here comes the Easter Bunny. :eyes:

[idgiehkt]

103. find it

find outrage on this thread, my friend.

Oh sorry, forgot about the typical "don't get hysterical" schtick which takes the focus off the fact that someone is losing a debate because they can't back their statements up. Next?

[MilesColtrane]

82. He's just trying to be shocking.

He was a friend of Johnny Ramone and obviously digs the punk ethos.

The problem is shock inflation. You can't get a rise out of people very easily these days so he resorts to the most extreme things he can think of.

(He's selling a Charles Manson drawing on his site in which he has signed "Charles + Vincent" on the back. In the description, he states that Manson was "unfairly imprisoned" and that he's selling the picture because it's "not as uplifting as it once was".)

The outlandish racist and sexist statements that Gallo makes are just tired schtick coming from a marginally talented egomaniac.

I've found that I have a very low tolerance for being around people like him.

[idgiehkt]

105. but he gets so bent when he gets criticized

he seemed pretty destroyed when the critics panned "The Brown Bunny" and someone above mentioned that he 'stopped painting out of spite'. It must suck to be so offensive yet get so offended when your work is rejected by the people you offend, and not even because they are offended, but because they suck.

But thanks for offering the first post that even comes close to offering some real insight into his mindset. It's helpful, and worth waiting for. We seek to understand.

(as an afterthought I have to say the Manson stuff is so junior high. I wonder if he's really delayed developmentally or something).

[Sock Puppet]

107. Satire is not your strong point, is it?

[TK421]

109. This has to be a joke...nobody could possibly be this obnoxious

.....oh, wait..maybe I'm wrong

[Westegg]

111. I've spent some time with Vincent...

...and I can tell ya two things:

1) He's what some would call crazy

and

2) Yeah. He's serious.

[Sequoia]

112. Oh really, and what if the "Jew child" wanted to be in the merchant business?

Moive star material...good lord!

This guy is gross.

[Mojambo]

114. That's fucking hilarious. n/t

[renie408]

118. Hey, no cripples. That IS pretty darned attractive...n/t

[ruiner4u]

119. Damn... Thats some high priced sperm...

Then again, if ya have to look at the pricetag, ya probably can't afford it....


just sayin..... :dunce:

[zanne]

121. I'll pay him $25 if...

He also mows my lawn.

[RandomKoolzip]

122. Andy Kaufman died for your sins

[Fire Walk With Me]

123. In comparison, I'd like to offer myself as a relative bargain.

The main benefit being, I had absolutely nothing to do with "The Brown Bunny."

Although IIRC, he has a killer collection of vintage tube recording gear.

[Mad_Dem_X]

124. Holy crap!

He's really full of himself, isn't he??? :crazy: