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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:07 PM
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Poll question: No-pets clauses in apartment/condo buildings
I need a cat fix!!! :grr:
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:14 PM
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1. Goes without saying.....
Love me, love my furbabies!!!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:18 PM
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2. then don't buy/rent there.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:21 PM
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3. In many places it's nearly impossible to find anyplace that takes pets
Let alone affordable places that do.

A friend of mine has been looking for 6 months for a single family home to rent that will accept her two well-behaved large dogs. She has no problem paying a higher security/damage deposit. Still there are few options and the few that do come up are rented before the newspaper hits her porch in the morning.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:31 PM
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6. It's so bad out here, there was actually a move at the Legislature a couple of years ago
to ban the evil clauses outright. Obviously, it went nowhere, or else I'd be participating in the occasional cat pix threads hereabouts. :(
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:08 PM
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7. A lot of people find themselves in an untenable situation
from living in a unit that DID allow pets and then changed administration and decided to unallow them.

Have you tried getting a new place to live lately? Unless you can afford to put down almost the whole price and buy, you're going to run into credit checks, prohibitions on pets (some places on kids), what you can drive and park where it can be seen, how you can decorate, whether you can smoke or not, play music at certain hours, or have guests that stay more than one night.

Frankly, unless you are an animal hoarder, I'd much rather have your pet as a neighbor than a lot of kids I've run into.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:24 PM
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12. ...prohibitions on pets (some places on kids)...
Are restrictions on children legal? That seems pretty unfair.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:18 PM
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17. In some places, yes.
Unfair? totally.

Not as bad as some years ago, though. I remember looking through the ads for a place when my youngest was small and seeing ads for 3 and 4 BR places that were marked 'no children or pets'...some just 'no children'. Always seemed totally stupid to me to have that big a place for rent and rule out families.

Now they don't advertise it except when it's an adults only apartment building.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:21 AM
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25. That's the worst possible situation...
...and it's happened to me several times. Thankfully, in each case, the landlord has decided to "grandfather in" those who already had pets, but there's no requirement for them to do so.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:25 PM
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4. I've actually found Maryland open to having pets in apartments.
It was much harder in Connecticut. We have three cats. I can, though, understand why Landlords would be averse to accepting pets, as they can cause quite a bit of a mess. Though humans can also. My friend and his wife rented their one bedroom condo out to a girl whose boyfriend used the living room to rebuild engines. Needless to say all the carpeting in the apt had to be replaced after the evicted them for non-payment of rent.

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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:28 PM
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5. My lease has a no-pet clause. It's a boilerplate lease.
But they also have a standard rider they'll allow any tenant to sign giving an exemption in exchange for a higher security deposit.

Finding a place that allows pets can be a total pain in the ass. I got lucky to find a place that will allow pets.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:17 PM
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8. There are a lot of people allergic to animals
Why do pet owners think they have the right to encroach on the lives of people with allergies? I say BAN ALL PETS!












:P
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:19 PM
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9. lounging



superman style
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:24 PM
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11. I've seen a tail hanging off, but this is a new one
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:23 PM
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10. Honestly, I wouldn't take a chance on that if I was the landlord.
Maybe your kitty is nice and clean and never scratches and only relieves itself in a box. Not all of them are that good. The best case I could hope for is no damage. On the other hand there is a real risk of finding damage from claws or finding that the carpeting smells like cat piss. When I moved into my present house it had a carpeted basement. The first time it rained, the whole house smelled like cat piss. We ripped up the carpeting.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:56 PM
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22. That's part of wear and tear
If a landlord wants the apartment to look pristine upon move out, they'd be better not renting it at all.

I think most no-pet clauses are aimed at dogs which can be much noisier than cats and need to go outdoors to relieve themselves.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:17 AM
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24. Cat piss and claw marks are not wear and tear.
That's damage. Wear and tear is a worn patch on the hall carpet. Anyway the least can define what is normal wear and what is damage.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:28 PM
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13. Many places in Delaware will allow cats if they are declawed
Cats can be very rough on carpeting. I should know - I'm probably going to have to pay for the damage my furballs have done to the carpeting in my old apartment
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:36 PM
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15. Another Delaware dilemma...
Declawed?! :grr: The only declawed cats Mom ever had had been declawed (i.e. had their toes amputated) by their previous human.

So, basically, the Toll State would be telling me, "Go ahead and have cats, as long as you mutilate them first"?! Ye gods!

I would much rather exercise my newfound tax-free shopping privileges to purchase a nice scratching post... on the other hand, cats (even if needlessly operated on) and a fabulous neighbor...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:42 PM
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16. New Jersey has the same rule too?
I mean you can't back out of your driveway without paying a damn toll.

We Delawareans don't pay tolls - we know better
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AggieGal Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:30 PM
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14. They should just let me have my pet and I pay a higher fee
Instead of banning pets, some places will allow cats only or pets up to 25lbs. Why? My 60 lb dog is much better behaved than my previous 9 lb dog. She is awesome and never has accidents in the apartment.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:29 PM
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18. Update: No-pet clause leads to tragedy in Puerto Rico!
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 07:29 PM by KamaAina
Seriously. This just in:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/puerto_rico_pet_massacre

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Animal control workers seized dozens of dogs and cats from housing projects in the town of Barceloneta and hurled them from a bridge to their deaths, authorities and witnesses said Friday. Mayor Sol Luis Fontanez blamed a contractor hired to take the animals to a shelter....

Fontanez said the city hired Animal Control Solution to clear three housing projects of pets after warning residents about a no-pet policy. He said the city paid $60 for every animal recovered and another $100 for each trip to a shelter in the San Juan suburb of Carolina....

But instead of being taken to a shelter, the pets and strays were thrown 50 feet from a bridge in the neighboring town of Vega Baja, according to Fontanez, witnesses and activists, apparently before dawn Tuesday.

"Many were already dead when they threw them, but others were alive," said Jose Manuel Rivera, who lives next to the bridge. "Some of the animals managed to climb to the highway even though they were all battered, but about 50 animals remained there, dead."


There you have it, folks. Today's no-pet clause is tomorrow's furball-tossing spree. Stop the madness!

edit: italics
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:50 PM
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19. What if you had your pet declaused?
Then your apartment would have no pet clauses in it at all!

:wink:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:56 PM
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20. With apartments here
(as madinmaryland said) its pretty easy to find pet accepting apartments. You pay a little extra rent. AND you put down a larger security deposit. If you have a good kitty and can repair the "damage" yourself you can get that back. I am my roommate had several cats in a apartment with this set up. We lived there with kitties for I think about 3 years and we got all our deposit back....
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:19 PM
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21. I don't mind so much as long as they allow small pets that live in aquariums/terrariums.
I have yet to own any furry pets. (not counting my current roommate, that is.)
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:53 PM
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26. Very few places consider tropical fish
or terrarium animals as pets.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:52 PM
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27. Yeah, my current place has a big pet fee but they don't charge for little terrarium animals.
So far I've had two cuban tree frogs, a leopard gecko, and a small aquarium with a snail, a crawfish, and some feeder fish, and a roommate (who is the only fuzzy animal in the house, and I think I've got him mostly housebroken).
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:32 PM
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23. That's illegal here
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 10:40 PM by achtung_circus
under Ontario's Residential Tenancies Act. Landlords may not stipulate pet or non-pet conditions. I am too lazy tonight to find the specific citation.

Condos, on the other hand, set their own rules, whatever the Board of Directors wants, basically.

On edit: Okay I looked. But now I'm going to sleep.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_06r17_e.htm

"No pet" provisions void

14. A provision in a tenancy agreement prohibiting the presence of animals in or about the residential complex is void. 2006, c. 17, s. 14.
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