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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 01:41 PM
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Most commercially overused piece of classical music?
My vote is for Grieg's "Morning Mood." It's been in the background of one too many shampoo/coffee commercials for me to be able to even enjoy it anymore. And your vote?
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 01:58 PM
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1. Pachelbel's Canon
I was enthralled the first time I heard it at about 14 yrs of age and then by the time I had turned 16 I had heard it another 24,000 times on commercials. wugh.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:27 PM
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2. I vote Canon.
Morning Mood is never placed through, and the chops and pieces of it are seldom representative of the whole selection.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:27 PM
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3. 2nded.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:02 PM
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13. Hell yes.. so cool!
I'd need a guitar but there is also a chord pattern that goes with 90% of 50s music lolol.

One guy at a party did something similar to what this guy did about it. :P

So true

:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:37 PM
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14. Yeah, a lot of songs have a very simple basic chord progression.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:05 PM
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22. That was excellent!
I'm glad I clicked on it!

:-) :rofl:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 04:01 PM
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45. That is a funny rant!
:applause:

I didn't realize how frequently that has been ripped off.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:05 PM
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49. I found his comment about which parts get the pretty solos especially funny...
since I played 2nd violin the last time I played that song. :)
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:41 PM
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6. I associate that with weddings more than commercials.
Still heard it way too often.

The overture to The Marriage of Figaro turns up all the time.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:47 PM
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7. yep.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:53 PM
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So Commercialized it's now Taco Bell's Canon.............
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:57 PM
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10. Dang! Ya beat me to it! nt
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:14 PM
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54. Another vote
It's the first thing that came to mind.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:36 PM
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4. Ad from years back...
This one ad was on so many times I lost count, showing this dweeb "selling" the "personal realtionship with God" books, and used the final movement of Beethoven's "Pastorale" symphony.

:snarl:
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:59 PM
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11. That's ironic!
The "Pastorale" was a celebration of some pretty darn pagan themes--fertility and all those dreadful things. :rofl:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:34 PM
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32. Or else they use "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring"
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 10:35 PM by bob_weaver
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:07 PM
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60. Bwahaha!!
My sister's school's song (UND) is the same as that. In a packed stadium, it's more than a little creepy.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:39 PM
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5. Whatever it is that Keith Olbermann uses
The Googles were of no help, but I'm tired of that tune (not just from him).
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:52 PM
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8. It's a theme from Beethoven's 9th Symphony
Edward R. Murrow also used it...back at the dawn of television. :)
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 02:53 PM
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9. Beethoven's 9th symphony.
He uses Toccatta and Fugue by Bach for the "Worst Persons" theme.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:53 PM
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12. Beethoven's 9th would have been my second choice.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 09:02 PM
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63. Keith uses Toccata Fugue in D Minor n/t
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:09 PM
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73. It's a nod to Walter Cronkite, I think...
I seem to remember as a kid, that this movement of the 9th was used in its original form on Cronkite's news show. But that was long ago, so I may be confusing it with another show.
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:39 PM
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15. Also Sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igAy4bG8Q6Q

If it's not the most overused, it IS the most annoying when it is used,IMO.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:49 PM
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26. Were they only to use Deodato's arrangement...
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:26 PM
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58. Thanks for posting that Telly! That is an excellent version of this song!
haven't heard it since I lived in DC and listened to WPFW.
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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:52 PM
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16. "The Nutcracker"
Commercials for Christmas Comedies.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:13 PM
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17. Nobody mentioned Orff's O Fortuna?
Anyone? Bueller?
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:28 PM
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18. "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana
I hope Orff's estate still gets residuals from it, judging by how many basketball and hockey games drag this out when the home team appears. That's kind of ironic considering the text. It shows how bulletproof the music is, though, when you still enjoy listening to it in context. Same goes for Zarathustra and many other overused pieces; works like this are deservedly well-known, they're all top-drawer stuff.


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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 07:13 PM
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19. Don't forget about movie trailers...
When a trailer is created before the post-production (including the musical scoring) of a film is complete, "O Fortuna" is one of the most widely used pieces of music to fill the space until the real score is done.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 08:35 PM
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20. If ya ever wondered what the lyrics mean...
http://web.comhem.se/hansdotter/carmina.html


#8 is particularly pevish...:)
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:51 PM
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27. Oh, I know what it's all about
I've sung it on two different occasions. What a hoot!


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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 08:46 PM
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21. You say...
...Carmina and I say Carmana.
You say Burina and I say Burana.
Carmina Carmana,
Burina Burana,
Let's Carl the whole thing Orff.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:13 PM
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24. I'm Carmina Burana and I'm here to say...
...O Fortuna is the music that is here to stay...

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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:00 AM
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42. you beat me to that joke.
I also sang Carmina in concert, and frankly, it's trash, AFAIC.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 04:41 PM
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48. I once attended a very long choral concert...
...made up of the entirety of "Messiah" and "Camina Burana", under the title "The Sacred and the Profane". Even my throat hurt after listening to three or four hours of flat-out, non-stop belting.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:05 AM
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69. well, if they only belt, they ain't doing it right
There are plenty of dynamics in both of those works.

I still love the Messiah, which I have pretty much memorized. At least the bass part.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:13 PM
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23. Wagner, Ride of the Valkyrie
I'm *sooooooo* tired of hearing it underneath the stupidest, least appropriate images. Gah! The other one I can't figure out is why anyone plays the wedding march from Lohengrin at their own wedding. That wedding didn't exactly turn out so well!

On the other hand, one of the best uses of a piece of classical music in a film, I think, was the use of Grieg's "In the Hall of the Mountain King" in the movie of Needful Things.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:53 PM
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28. They never use horses on stage any more
So I always refer to it as "The Walk of the Valkyries."


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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:05 PM
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59. LOL!! At least sometimes you can see real fire...
... instead of "Magic Tinfoil".

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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:36 PM
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25. Vivaldi's The Four Seasons: Spring
seems to be the one I hear all the time.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 09:56 PM
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29. In Edmonton?
I thought it was always winter there!


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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:12 PM
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30. We live in hope...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:20 PM
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66. LOL!
Reminds me of the joke about Winnipeg.

One day, the wind stopped blowing at Portage and Main. Everyone fell down.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:09 PM
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67. And the western exodus to Ontario ceased
:7


:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:07 PM
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50. Yeah, I was listening to the classical station on my way home from work one night
and it was piece after piece of stuff I'd never heard before... then suddenly, Vivaldi. Spring. A piece that I'd heard and played gods only know how many times. I was a little annoyed 'cause I wanted to keep hearing stuff I hadn't heard before. :P
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:30 PM
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31. Barber's Adagio for Strings
Stirring, but after signalling sadness and destruction in Platoon, Elephant Man, Lorenzo's Oil, El Norte, Amelie, etc., it needs to be banned from films for awhile.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:12 AM
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37. fine piece, but not 'commercially' over used...
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:36 PM
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33. "Gymnopedie" played while flying slowly over a devastated disaster area
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:39 PM
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34. "William Tell Overture," "Russian Dance" or "Flight of the Bumble Bee" advertising cleaning products
all of them supposed to make it seem like cleaning house is a quick, jiffy, joyful task (while in actuality it is hours of drudgery)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:03 AM
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35. Handel's "Messiah".
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:09 AM
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36. .
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 12:14 AM by bridgit
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:27 AM
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38. DU Please! Greig? Flight of the Bumble Bee? Pachelbel's Canon? It's Vivaldi's Mandolin Concerti!!!!
They're EVERYWHERE!!! Oozing out of salad dressing bottles!! In Norstrom dressing rooms!! Elevators!! Escalators!! Olive Gardens!! OLIVE FREAKING GARDENS!!!!!! Airline tickets to shreiking TUSCANY!! CHEESE! Fucking Italian CHEESE!! PASTA!! Sweet Holy Mother The Pasta!! Shit, DU!! Get with the program!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StNAG4gCIxY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6mNYAZP1mk
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annonymous Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:16 AM
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39. Fur Elise
This is especially annoying as a ringtone.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:04 PM
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72. Yup. nt
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:48 AM
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40. Hands down, without a doubt: Carmina Burana
Often used for a movie's commercials - can't have a big explosion or serious impact without it!

mikey_the_rat
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 04:13 PM
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46. I agree!
Oh, For tuna!
tuna sandwich!


I don't remember the rest of the words.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:53 AM
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41. Not strictly 'classical' but an American classic: Rhapsody in Blue...
..a magnificent piece, but completely bastardized..mostly by United Airlines. The UA terminal in O'Hare airport has given it the "It's a Small World" Disney over-kill treatment.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:13 AM
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43. Bach's Polka in g-minor for scrap metal, banjo, and vomiting leprechaun.
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 08:14 AM by Rabrrrrrr
I hear that one all the time.

Even when the TV isn't on.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:09 PM
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51. That sounds like something P.D.Q. Bach might do.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 03:55 PM
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44. Wait, I forgot Tchaikovsky's "Waltz of the Flowers."
That even showed up on "CSI" a while ago...playing from a Hallmark-style music box, one venue through it has been perhaps most viciously overused.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 04:34 PM
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47. Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings"
Ever since Stone used it in "Platoon", it crops up all over the place, whenever someone wants to indicate sadness. Moore used it in "Sicko" - even Michael shows lapses of judgment at times.

And Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man". Some nature program used that as its theme for ages. Now it's used to indicate "triumph".
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:13 PM
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53. Although it was used rather brilliantly in an episode of Daria that I just watched...
where they were at a paintball range. :)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:09 PM
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52. The overture to "The Marriage Of Figaro". It pops up EVERYWHERE.
And Copeland's "Rodeo" is musical shorthand for "This commercial has cowboys in it."

Beef...it's what's for dinner...
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 06:38 PM
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57. How true...



:7
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 09:47 PM
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64. I LOVE "What's Opera, Doc?"!
"Oh Bwoonhildaaaa! You're so wuvvwee!"

"Yes, I knoo-oo-oo-w it, I can't help it!"

:rofl:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:34 PM
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55. Ode to Joy
great piece of music.... overused.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 06:17 PM
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56. "WM. Tell Overture?" Naw, actually that's about right...
....i was about 12 when i realized that half the music i heard in my favorite cartooons came from Wm Tell.
but the use of it for the Lone Ranger theme was absolute genious.

i have it on CD now. Whenevre I take my family somewhere, a trip, say, i put it on and blast our way out of town. It cracks the kids up.
kinda dumb, huh?
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:10 PM
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61. Funniest thread in a long time... thanks n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:45 PM
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70. Awww; someone thought a thread of mine was funny!
Thank you, UncleSepp.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:25 PM
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62. There's really no excuse for this kind of thing
All that a commercial/TV/movie/whatever producer has to do is phone the nearest university's music department and put out word that he's looking for classical music to fit a particular mood or situation, and wants something not often heard. I guarantee you the students will send on avalanche of suggestions, and it won't cost a penny. Then people will say, "Wow, what neat music, I wonder what it is." Instead, a consultant or whatever is probably paid to think of "Ode to Joy," and the viewing public yawns once again.


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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 09:59 AM
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68. Here's a really cool website if you're lookin for mood music
http://musicovery.com/index.php?ct=us

Musicovery. Choose your mood and genre(s) and off you go.


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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:46 PM
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71. Niiiiiice.
I was just looking for something like this. Thanks!!!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:16 PM
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65. Bach - Air on the string of G
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