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Captain Absolut Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 11:48 PM
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1828 to 2004...We're in a time machine folks!!!



I swear it's the same man!!!

I'm not getting mean I'm getting funny.



tee hee...:smoke:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 11:49 PM
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1. Well shit, he's got my vote now.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 11:57 PM
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2. Thats a digrace!
To Andrew Jackson.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:00 AM
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3. Actually that's a disgrace to John Kerry
I know it was a different time, but that doesn't excuse Andrew Jackson from being a horrible human being to Native Americans.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:58 AM
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7. well kerry has been horrible to native people allover
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 01:58 AM by corporatewhore
he voted for freetrade and permanent trade relations with the andean nations like Bolivia
Bolivia's Poor Proclaim Abiding Distrust of Globalization By LARRY ROHTER

Published: October 17, 2003 (NY TIMES)

A PAZ, Bolivia, Oct. 15 — The many Indian protesters who choked the streets and highways of this Andean nation again on Thursday may be poor and speak broken or accented Spanish, but they have a powerful message.

It is this: no to the export of gas and other natural resources; no to free trade with the United States; no to globalization in any form other than solidarity among the downtrodden peoples of the developing world.

The force of that message may yet topple President Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, who tried to quell the unrest by offering a package of concessions late Wednesday night that the protesters rejected.

Instead they vowed to continue with demonstrations meant to force his government to abandon a plan to export natural gas to the United States through a port in Chile. The protests have already left more than 80 people dead over the past month.
Sensing that public support for the president, weak to begin with, has all but vanished, opponents of the gas export plan have now moved to press their advantage.
"The blood that has been spilled is something sacred," Felipe Quispe, leader of the indigenous group that initiated the protests, said in response to Mr. Sánchez de Lozada's offer, made in a televised speech. "So we can't negotiate and we're not even going to talk."




ahref=http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/17/international/americas/17GLOB.html?8br


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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:06 AM
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4. Kerry didn't massacre any Native Americans, though.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 12:08 AM by theorist
I think all of this stuff is right. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

The funny thing is that Andrew Jackson replaced John Q. Adams, a much despised and unpopular single term president. I don't think he went by JQ, though.

There are some interesting parallels between J. Q. Adams and G. W. Bush: neither won the popular vote (Adams was third in the electoral college, though); Adams never used his veto power, and Bush hasn't used his, yet.

Any others?

addition on edit: Kerry and Jackson look an awful lot alike in those pictures! Scary...
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:48 AM
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5. thanks for the historical perspective, theorist
I was thinking that was the case but wasn't sure. Had intended to look it up.

This is really kind of creepy! History does repeat itself and it seems to do so in ways one would never expect.


Cher

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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:12 AM
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11. If history doesn't repeat itself, it must at least rhyme. n/t
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:53 AM
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6. Well kerry encouraged massacre of native peoples in latin america
via "raw deals" like plan colombia
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:12 AM
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12. I wasn't familiar with that. Thanks. n/t
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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:00 AM
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9. and, of course
they're both sons of presidents.

though i assume everyone knew that.

better safe than sorry...
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:10 AM
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10. The obvious connection, right? n/t
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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:00 AM
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8. WOW! Botox existed in 1828!!! nt
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