Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Favorite Opera (and we're not talking the Browser)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:38 PM
Original message
Favorite Opera (and we're not talking the Browser)
I love Opera and lately I've been digging the "Tales of Hoffman" by Offenbach.

What's your favorite Opera?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. Menotti's
The Unicorn, the Gorgon, and the Manticore.
Which is more of an oratorio/mimodrama than an opera, but nonetheless it is an ignored masterpeice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. I'll have to check on
that one. I like Menotti.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
2. Salome!
I saw it as it is traditionally done and I saw a modern version. Both were amazing. Strauss happens to be my favorite composer anyway. We have no Opera here so that is one thing my brother and I used to do when I would visit him in Houston. He worked for the Opera company so I saw a few of them but that is my very favorite of the few I have seen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. Figaro! Mozart's, that is. Followed by Die Zauberflote.
I can whistle the Queen of the Night's aria. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. I'll take those in the reverse order.
Boito's Mephisotphele is really, um interesting. Good, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
54. I love Zauberflote
My voice teacher in college was Wendy Miller, a coloratura soprano who could belt out both Queen arias.

Hard to pick a favorite, but I guess that is it, front to back, also anything by Puccini.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. Der Rosenkavelier
followed closely by La Boheme and Turondot
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. YES!
Der Rosenkavelier has some of the most beautiful music, ahhh, I just love it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Isn't the trio near the end as close to sublime as it gets?
Heard it live with Kathlene Battle, Tatiana Troyanos and Elisabeth Suderstrom. Wow!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Live? You are so lucky.
I cry real tears every time I hear it. I LOVE when we occasionally get to play parts of it for the orchestra. I need to go out and get some Dvd's, my tape of it is shot I have watched it so often.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. I saw it with the Met when they used to go on the road
It was their last performance in Detroit after coming here for something like 40 years. Very emotional. At the end of the opera, people spontaineously broke into "Aud Lang Sine." I remember hearing the 100th anniversary broadcast live at the Met on the radio. They did the trio with Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, Fredricka Von Stade and Kathleen Battle. It was the best version I ever heard. Taped it but alas, the cassette wore out and it now sounds like crap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #8
24. I heard it at the Met with Gwyneth Jones, Troyanos and Blegen.
Even better!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
7. Lohengrin
by Wagner. That's my fave today anyway.

I also love The Pearl Fishers (Bizet), Turandot (Puccini's last opera), Lakme (Delibes), and Die Zauberflote (Mozart)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #7
26. Did you happen to catch Robert Wilson's staging of Lohengrin
at the Met?

Jaw-dropping WOW!

Too bad some of the hold fuddy-duddy audience couldn't deal with it and felt the need to boo. I thought it was quite powerful in its minimalism, and if one was paying attention (which the old fuddy-duddy's clearly weren't), the light boxes and everything else have signifianct symbolic meaning. But even beyond that, it was just plain BEAUTIFUL.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
9. Aida
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. I carried a spear in Aida once
Radames was a real practical joker, I don't think he missed anybody in the cast.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
11. Peter Grimes - Benjamin Britten
It isn't performed much any more because it's about child abuse and the protagonist comes off as a heroic character in the end (even though he does commit suicide).

I've met Peter Pears, who debuted the role.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. That is truly amazing music
isn't it? It is so sad but so wonderful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #11
29. I met Jon Vickers who OWNED the role
despite what Britten thought of his interpretation!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
61. I've seen him sing it
Did a good job, but too dramatic. I preferred Pear's more understated approach.

Vickers would have made a good Balfour.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
12. Tosca
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 04:55 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
and everything else Puccini wrote... :o
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
14. Handel's "Julius Ceasar"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:58 PM
Response to Original message
15. Tristan Und Isolde. Einstein on the Beach
and the Ring Cycle and Turandot.

I tend to shun Italian opera (except for the genius Puccini), and go for the more serious stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. The Ring Cycle is a serious
committment! It was the first Opera I ever really listened to and it peaked my interest. I really know next to nothing about Opera but since my brother worked for the Opera I learned some. He and I listened to Turandot as he died so I doubt I will ever be able to hear it again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. I just received the entire Boulez version of the Ring on DVD
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 05:06 PM by stopbush
today. A friend of mine at Universal Music sent it to me.

Can't wait to watch it again (I owned it on laserdisc), only this time, in Surround Sound.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. And I'm looking forward to standing through it again this Spring!
The Met does the Ring Cycle every four years, so this year will be my THIRD time to stand through it! (standing tickets are WAY cheaper, plus, I'd rather stand and have room to pace and move around for six hours than to sit in an enclosed chair for six hours)

YEE HAH!!

Turandot has such lovely music. I'd never heard it, and then a friend gave me a ticket to see it at City Opera, so I went. I'd known Puccini, of course, but never Turandot. Blew me away - so beautiful, even more so than Puccini's other stuff.

I can understand wanting to listen to it while dying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. I find Puccini's Manon Lescaut to be his most beautiful music.
But I admit that I still get choked up at the end of La boheme, even after seeing it many times and singing in the chorus for numerous productions (at least when you're in the chorus, you leave after the start of Act 3, saving yourself the embarrassment of sobbing in front of your colleagues at the end of Act 4).

BTW - I've also sung in Puccini's Tosca, Turandot, Butterfly and...Le Villi!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. My choices EXACTLY. Honey, you got EARS!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Woo hoo! Thanks!
Those are your four faves as well?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #15
41. I love Tristan too
Notice how the literal translation of "Vorspiel" is particularly appropriate here.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. heh heh heh
:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
17. Slap me
I'm one of those. I love ooompa Verdi. Rigoletto and Traviatta.

Also, Otello, Mefistofele, and the Barber of Seville.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
20. Tough question!
Cav/Pag for the pure joy of it, La Boheme for the tragedy, Carmen for the hum-ability factor, Turandot for the costumes & scenery, Rigoletto for the catharsis when you've been screwed over.

You wouldn't have to twist my arm to see Tosca and Traviata again, either.

P.S. I hear Volpe's retiring as G.M. from the Met... in 2006.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:09 PM
Response to Original message
23. Too many to denote a fav, but
Pelleas et Melisande, Don Carlo, Werther, Trovatore, Boris Godonov (in the Rimsky-Korsakov vers), and many others.

BTW - Joe Volpe announced that he's retiring as head of the Met in 2006.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
30. TURANDOT!
Not only is the music lucious and gorgeous, but there's a relatively upbeat ending (for an opera), and a real story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #30
55. Turandot has my vote too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU GrovelBot  Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
31. ## Support Democratic Underground! ##
RUN C:\GROVELBOT.EXE

This week is our first quarter 2004 fund drive.
Please take a moment to donate to DU. Thank you
for your support.

- An automated message from the DU GrovelBot


Click here to donate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. ACK!!!! MY POST HAS BEEN GROVELBOTTED
:crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:50 PM
Response to Original message
32. toss up: Don Giovanni or Madame Butterfly
however, the most emotional to me is Isolde's Love-Death (Isoldens Liebestod) from "Tristan and Isolde."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
33. Marriage of Figaro
Really, anything by Mozart is just fine with me.

First opera seen, at age 11: La Traviata.

Second opera seen, age 11: Madama Butterfly.

Favorite opera film: Ingmar Bergman (yes, THAT Ingmar Bergman) version of The Magic Flute. In Swedish.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
35. Days of Our Lives!
I even guest starred on there for a while when I posessed Marlena :evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
36. And I totally forgot to add "Writing to Vermeer"
It was so stunning, so mind-blowing, so moving, that after the performance I forced my partner to walk around outside with me for a half an hour before I was ready to speak again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
37. La Boheme
Puccini
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aQuArius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
38. Not a huge Opera fan, but
I really like Porgy & Bess. I am more of a Broadway musical lover, even though my grandma insists I should've gone into opera singing as a profession. I really should look into Opera more, but I can't get enough Broadway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
39. I'm partial to the Ring
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:02 PM by ironflange
Pretty time-consuming though.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
43. Wow, That's A Tough Question
I had season tickets to the Washington Opera for several years,and saw many excellent productions. Among the more memorable were:

Salome
La Boheme
Rigoletto
The Merry Wives of Windsor
Lucia de Lammermoor
Don Giovanni
Aida
Don Juan
The Magic Flute (saw that one twice)

Those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head. There were many more fabulous performances. Opera is wonderful!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
44. The Russians: Boris Godunov, Khovanshchina, Eugene Onegin
I also like Tannhauser and Don Giovanni.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:31 AM
Response to Original message
45. Madam Butterfly
Gotta love those romantic tragedies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:38 AM
Response to Original message
46. Rossini's "The Barber of Seville".
It's fun and light and the music is good. Yes, I will always think of Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd when I see it, but that's not a bad thing.

I also like "Tosca" because it has a good story. I'm not a Wagner nor a Gilbert and Sullivan fan, however.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:01 AM
Response to Original message
47. All My Children... or Passions
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
48. Love "Tales of Hoffman" too...
.. Offenbach is an amazing composer. Which recorded version do you like?

The Skin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:49 AM
Response to Original message
49. Tough question.
Favorite? Can't say I have one. Some have great arias and duets, but it's tough to sit through the whole thing. And, a lot depends on the singers and staging. The acting better be good-- just getting the notes right doesn't cut it with me, not does spending too much time on sets and costumes.

Others, like much of Wagner, I'd prefer to listen to the music without the singing.

Carmen and Traviata are easy to sit through the whole thing. Carmen has more earworms than ABBA. Butterfly, Turandot, Aida, and a bunch of the light ones, too-- Rossini and Mozart were the greatest of hacks. Earworms abound, and you just feel good after watching their stuff.

I shall ultimately defer to my cat, who while "Un bel di" was playing, sat through the whole thing staring at the speakers with his ears perked and his eyes wide. Art that crosses species is a rare and marvelous thing.

Or, maybe he just thought he heard a bird in there.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 11:06 AM
Response to Original message
50. Bellini's "Norma"
the first live performance I saw (which was actually a dress rehearsal), the duet between Norma and Adalgesia was so perfectly sung I got goosebumps.

I also saw the Minnesota Opera production (1989/90 season)of "Carmen" which featured Denyce Graves in the title role (THAT was one amazing production).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 11:09 AM
Response to Original message
51. Am I the only person who DOESN'T like Carmen?
Sat through it a few years ago - and that was outside, with wine and cheese and on a blanket, so I was relaxed and comfy, and didn't enjoy it much at all. It has that famous aria, which I am sick of hearing since it seems to get played everywhere and sung constantly at the italian opera restaurant I like to go to, but otherwise, it's kinda yucko.

IMO.

Tell me I'm not the only one?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. Yes, you are.
Next time you see it, pretend you're watching "Don Jose" rather than "Carmen." Jose's fall from honorable soldier to murdering nut job is really what the opera is all about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #52
53. it's not the story, it's the music
that drives me to not care any more after a while...

I think you are right, though - the interesting part of the story is the guy.

I just wish the music were better.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #53
56. I think Bizet is better indoors...
There are subtleties that are simply lost outside...regardless of how good the sound system is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. Nah, I've heard on recordings as well
Just couldn't get into it.

I think it's just one of those things that are the way they are. It's never struck me as very interesting, and probably never will.

Though I appreciate your passion for it. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. I don't find any of the recordings to be absolutely satisfying.
Most of them feature a soprano as Carmen, and a soprano who has never even sung the role onstage, for that matter.

I'm waiting for some director to update the story to bush's Iraq adventure. Imagine if Jose was a US soldier who fell for a Muslim girl and deserted his unit to take up with al Qaeda! That scenario would probably have the same impact on today's audiences as the original story had on Bizet's audience.

I'm wondering if the problem you have with Carmen are the elongated melodic lines which resemble those of Berlioz. I've known people who are, how shall I say, motivically oriented in their music likes.

I think the biggest obstacle to enjoying Carmen is that not many singers are really equipped to show the opera to it's best advantage. Both Carmen and Jose are multi-faceted roles that require real French opera vocal techniques - you must have the voix mixte as well as dramatic capabilities. It's rare that you get two singers who both have those qualities, so you end up with a lop-sided production, ie: either a strong Jose or Carmen but not both. In those instances, the show is usually stolen by the one-dimensional role of Micaela which requires a singer with a sweet-sounding voice and little else.

I know, I'm getting long winded.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. No, I like long melody, or absence of melody
One of the things that annoys me about Mozart et. al. sometimes, is the short melody lines over and over and over. I like Wagner. I like Philip Glass. I like Steve Reich. I also really like Berlioz.

I like your idea of redoing the show! If a producer/director had the guts to do it, I'd pay money to see it.

I know youa re passionate about wanting me to like the thing, and I can't say I *dislike* it. It just does nothing for me that compels me to keep listening, and if it fell out of the repertoire, I would never miss it or care.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:11 PM
Response to Original message
60. Oops
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 09:14 PM by qwertyMike
Not an opera
Mahler's 9th that is

Opera - christ I cry at them all

Puccini, Verdi, Pete Townshend (ormerly of the "Who Me?")
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 07:55 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC