L O S T

[graywarrior]

Did the ending blow your fucking mind, or what?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. Ahhhhh, How Could I Forget.... n/t

[graywarrior]

2. You can watch it online or an hour before the new show next week.

I'm all twisted up in knots now.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Not What I Meant HEHEHE.

[graywarrior]

6. Clue me in you big fat tease!

:shrug:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. Check Your PM In About 30 Seconds :o)

[graywarrior]

10. You rule!

Seriously...you just made my DAY! ! ! ! ! !

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. Just Sent Ya A Note :o)

[graywarrior]

14. *squeeeeel*

:loveya:

[Fleshdancer]

4. HELL YES! **spoilers enclosed**

As soon as he started talking to Sayid at the end, I knew. There's no mistaking that voice. I sat there, shook my head, my jaw fell and I kept thinking WTF, this is NOT happening! Only it was. Then it did.

WOW.

[Wetzelbill]

5. I'm in the first ten minutes right now...

I love Naveen Andrews though, such a cool actor. Sayyid is a badass. I think he won the golf bet in the end, haha.

[graywarrior]

9. I don't know who to lust after on that show

Tonight was filled with all of them.

[Fleshdancer]

11. ok good, it wasn't just me.

I consider this an orgy episode for that very reason. :D

[graywarrior]

15. No wonder my eyes are bad

They were jumping all over the screen tonight. Hot hot hot stuff.

[darkstar]

13. Love Sayid's future hair...and fashion sense....

and that bullet wound just gave him another excuse to take off his shirt...

[graywarrior]

16. Yeah, he looked great like that.

[Wetzelbill]

22. ha!

Yeah the show doesn't exactly lack in attractive people. Naveen Andrews' longtime girlfriend is Barbara Hershey. She's got him by around 20 years. Good for her. :)

Hey I'm not even gay and Sawyer even makes me feel a tad weak when he says: "Hey Freckles." lol :)

Oh I love Marsha Thomason(Naomi). Ever since she was on Las Vegas. That woman is flat out sexy.

[graywarrior]

23. I love his little nicknames for Kate

I can't wait til he calls her "cupcake" again.

[Wetzelbill]

26. yeah I like his nicknames in general

But with Kate they are so much more effectionate.

[darkstar]

30. How 'bout Hurely:

"Great. They sent us another Sawyer."

[graywarrior]

33. Hurley is the best, ain't he?

Best line ever was "French lady says hey."

[darkstar]

35. or when the nitro went off:

"Dude. You got some Arnst on you."

:rofl:

[graywarrior]

36. They should make Hurley comment t-shirts

[Downtown Hound]

101. "It looks like somebody steamrolled Harry Potter"

Hahahaha! Best Hurley line ever!

Here, enjoy:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/archive/index.php/t-6180.html

[graywarrior]

110. Very cool!

[Connonym]

45. Sayed cleans up VERY nicely

I was getting all hot and bothered. Then Desmond showed up and all I could think about was how much I'd like a nice sandwich.

[Pacifist Patriot]

52. LOL! It was a bit uncomfortable watching it with my husband beside me in bed...

oh the fantasies! We both commented that the show didn't lack for eye candy for either gender or any sexual orientation.

[SoxFan]

117. That would be Claire

No question!

[darkstar]

7. Hey yeah, (spoilers)

Sayid has a tender side. Who knew? Wastes two folks in one ep. That golf dude was on his shit list, too, eh?

Seriously reeled back in by these last two episodes. Plus lots of progress in the magneto-time-warp-distortion thing.....

[Fleshdancer]

17. Question

Remember when they found the first orientation video that described the rich guy who funded the Dharma Initiative? Was he in Berlin?

[graywarrior]

18. Ummmmm, that sounds familiar,,,,,yes, I think you might have something there

[Fleshdancer]

21. ok, this is bugging me enough to dig

I'll post when I find out the answer to this. :D

Damn I love this show.

[graywarrior]

25. Cool, coz my eyes hurt and I can't surf like I used to

[Fleshdancer]

31. Looks like Alvar Hanso is from Denmark n/t

[darkstar]

29. It appears the Hanso Group was

out of Denmark....
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Hanso_Foundation

[graywarrior]

34. Yes!

[darkstar]

19. Hmmmm...I thought perhaps a Scandanavian nation

but I don't recall. Nice thinking....

:hi:

[deucemagnet]

20. Some freaky shit about the island, too ***SPOILER***

Daniel's chronometer was different than the one on the payload? WTF is up with that?

[Pacifist Patriot]

28. I'm really starting to wonder about what someone said here last week...

about a Narnia-like situation as far as how the island is related to our world, i.e. "back home." Does time move at different rates in the two places?

[deucemagnet]

32. I guess one explanation is that the island exists 30 minutes into the future...

...another would be that the ship got a false signal from the beacon along the same trajectory, but then wouldn't the payload have fallen short of the mark? I dunno. :shrug:

On edit: Maybe that's 30 minutes into the past. I'm confused.

[Goblinmonger]

112. I don't know that that is a correct interpretation.

It is a ratio and not a set number of minutes. That whole countdown to the thing landing took, what, about 30 seconds from the boat, right? And the clocks show it took 31 minutes. So things go 60 times faster off the island. Maybe my math is wrong, but I don't think it is just a "time zone" kind of thing.

[Goblinmonger]

111. Plus, they found Ben's WARDROBE

Maybe that's the portal like it is in CS Lewis.

[Connonym]

116. I was more shocked by the wardrobe than the drawer full of passports

One of the reasons I love lost is similar to why I love Battlestar Galactica, the characters are so complex. There is no solid black and white and both the characters you love and the characters you love to hate shuffle back and forth in all sorts of shades of gray.

[underpants]

55. 31 minutes difference but that could be latitude or longitude--can the island MOVE?

or can it appear to be where it is not?

[Iris]

70. possibly. The cabin appears to move.

[Pacifist Patriot]

24. Great episode! (spoiler question)

So the bracelet on Elsa is similar to the one he found on Naomi suggesting a common connection between those two women rather than him giving Elsa the one he found on Naomi on the island, correct?

[graywarrior]

27. That was a twist I can't wrap my head around

Certainly ties something together.

[question everything]

42. Wondered the same thing. And does the intial R.G. (on Naomi's) mean anything?

And for some reason I thought that Elsa had some resemblance to Penelope. (Maybe all blonds look the same... Had a similar problem on "24" second season).

[Goblinmonger]

113. Read a couple interesting thoughts.

A blow up of the bracelet looks like the G could be a C and Juliet's sister's initials are RC.

And if it is RG = Republican Guard. Might explain Sayid's gentle reaction to the death of both.

[Connonym]

47. My guess on that

the bracelet must be related to the organization they work for. I guess we can now conclude that it wasn't Ben's funeral (or lack thereof) that Jack showed up for.

[Bake]

102. Hell, I thought it was the SAME bracelet.

But what the eff do I know?

:rofl:

Bake

[Fleshdancer]

37. More questions

At the end, what was with caged dogs? Is Ben a vet?

Also, can we assume Sayid and Ben were in Berlin? I can't imagine Sayid traveling too far with a gun shot wound.

Oh, and I'm VERY curious as to why Locke couldn't find Jacob's cabin. :scared: That doesn't seem like a good sign.

[xmas74]

38. My guess with the dogs was that

the vet practice was more of a front than anything. It was a place out in the open offering easy access yet was hidden all at the same time.

[question everything]

43. Easeir to get medical attention at a vet hospital witout curious questions

and perhaps even reporting in a regular hospital.

Yes, they were in Berlin.

I think that Jacob's cabin comes and goes in the eyes of the beholder. I think that even Hurley who saw it and then did not.

[Connonym]

48. am I the only one who expected to see Vincent in one of the cages?

[Pacifist Patriot]

91. Didn't cross my mind, but now that you mention it...

a frame by frame reviewing of that scene might reveal something. Never know with these folks!

[underpants]

57. He could have traveled elsewhere in Europe but clearly they had this operation planned

so it would not be strange for Ben to be nearby should there be a need for assistance.

[Wetzelbill]

59. I think the cabin was there

But Locke couldn't see it. Almost like he couldn't see Jacob, then for an instant he could. It creeped me out that he couldn't see it though. I kind of got the impression from Ben that he could see it.

[soleft]

60. Do you think Hurley saw it?

[Wetzelbill]

65. you know, I didn't pay attention to that

It would be interesting if he did. Maybe Hurley is the real "special" person out of the whole group. He does have a weird relationship with the island, and he is one of the six.

If he did, and didn't say anything, that would be trippy. That he even saw it that one time definitely makes him a threat to Ben in a way, but nobody knows it yet. The more I think of it, I bet he did see it. He's so laid back, he wouldn't ever say it.

This show is amazing. I'm like obsessed with it, I literally woke up at 6:30 to watch the extra features on the season 3 dvd. That's what I'm doing now, haha.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

67. Re: cabin...

I'm thinking it's because the group was there. Here's guessing it's only visible when only "special" people are around.

[Rob H.]

39. That ending!

"Now they'll know I'm coming for them."

"Good."

[Yavin4]

40. I'm Going To Miss This Show When It Ends

I'm going to cry. No TV show has involved me more intellectually and emotionally as this one has. It's been a real joy, and I will dearly miss it.

[Iris]

75. I try not to think about it ending.

even though that's what it's all working towards!

[question everything]

41. I recognized Ben's voice before I even saw his face

and, for a while, we wondered whether Ben was Elsa's boss..

[underpants]

54. I recognized the cadence of his speech

:bounce:

[question everything]

44. I wonder whether we are done with flash back of the Oceanic survivors

and from now on will have a forward flash..

[redqueen]

62. No! I want to see what happens with the helicopter trip back to the ship...

the comment from Faraday (hehe) about bearing made me think we will. :D

[question everything]

76. I meant the flashback of the survivors before the crash

Obviously what is happening with the four "rescuers" - Dharma people? - is a continuation of the story of previous seasons.

[Iris]

78. it does seem to be going that way

[Connonym]

46. Ben wouldn't count as one of the "Oceana 6" right?

Duh, Connonym, Ben wasn't on the plane. So we've got Jack, Kate, Sayed and Hurley. Am I missing anyone?

[Pacifist Patriot]

51. That's it so far...

I've heard spoiler rumors on who the others are, but I guess we'll get confirmation in the next couple of episodes.

[underpants]

61. Well surprise surprise it is the main characters

I guess that is to be expected. The normal way a show like this would go would be to keep the love triangle intact (Jack, Kate , and Sawyer) off the island...we'll see.

Now the question is -Who's funeral was that? and when Kate said "I have to get back HE will be wondering where I am" who was she talking about?

[redqueen]

63. Michael's funeral, I'll bet.

As for who HE is... not a clue. Sawyer?

[graywarrior]

68. We all assume it's Sawyer, but those writers are sneaky

There could be a completely new character we haven't even met yet.

[question everything]

77. Agree. Someone that she met who was not part of the island and the crash

and who does not want to hear about it and perhaps is helping Kate putting the whole experience behind her.


Wanted to add: so far, except for Kate, yet, all three appear to live tortuous life after the rescue.

[Iris]

85. I kind of think that as well. But then there's the baby seat in the back of the car.

And on the season premiere, there was the "What if I'm pregnant?" "God, let's hope not" exchange between Sawyer and her.

[question everything]

103. Even if she did have Sawyer's child, I doubt that he would stick around

to play daddy.

[LibraLiz1973]

119. Wait... there is a baby seat in the back of the car????

[Wetzelbill]

79. What if it was Ben?

That she was involved in whatever thing Ben and Sayid have going on and HE wasn't said in the sense of a couple, but more as in HE as an almost cult-like leader.

[Pacifist Patriot]

90. That's the tentative conclusion my husband and I have come to.

But knowing this show they'll blow that theory straight to hell.

[Wetzelbill]

95. oh yeah

these writers like to mindfuck, haha. I just think it would be so wild for Kate to be involved in some crazy conspiracy with Ben as the leader. But if you look, both her and Sayid have dubious backgrounds in their off-island lives. It almost makes sense that a guy like Ben could prey on those weaknesses and get them to work for him.

[Iris]

92. Never even thought of that!

But, yeah, that could be...

[Wetzelbill]

96. yeah

you just never know. Conventional wisdom would be Sawyer and that they were a couple, but this show is so wild that nothing is ever conventional.

[Iris]

98. yes and I've read some speculation about what might have happened between Kate & Ben

when she was all dressed up and he told her what she was going to be experiencing would not be "pleasant"

[LibraLiz1973]

118. I have a theory on who HE is - possible spoiler??? if I end up being right that is`

Ok. So, in Hurleys FF episode, when he saw Jack he apologized to him for going with Locke.
I got the feeling that something bad had happened.
When we saw Jack's FF and he sees Kate, she is clearly not on the lamb from the law.
During Sawyer's FF Ben says "Remember what happened the last time you thought with your heart and not with your gun?"

I think it is going to turn in to an all out war with the rescuers because of Locke.
I think Claire will end up getting killed. Hurley would feel responsible for that since he
went with Locke and said it was what Charlie wanted- which led to Claire going with Locke too.
Kate will end up taking Aaron & will return to the states having assumed Claire's identity.

So, Aaron is the HE and Claire is dead.

Something must happen where Sayid makes a bad choice and thinks with his heart & not his gun? Which results is chaos.

Just a theory.

[underpants]

71. BTW-Who is OMAR????

We haven't seen him yet

http://imdb.com/title/tt0411008/


Anthony Azizi
http://imdb.com/name/nm0044318/
"Lost" .... Omar (2 episodes, 2008)
- Meet Kevin Johnson (2008) TV episode .... Omar
- The Constant (2008) TV episode .... Omar

[redqueen]

80. Guess we'll find out next Thursday!

:bounce:

[Pacifist Patriot]

87. I think she's talking about....

Ben

[underpants]

104. My wife and I discussed that last night

Good call

[Goblinmonger]

114. Isn't that too easy??

I mean the writers are working hard to make this whole show a mind fuck and have people think very deeply about it. they are keeping the Oceanic 6 a secret. Isn't is kind of anti-climactic if the 6 are just the main characters? And if all the main characters are off the island, why do we give a shit if they go back. Doesn't there need to be someone on the island that draws us back in. My initial thought is that the "he" is Kate's kid with Sawyer. Sawyer stays on the island like he said he would. That makes the triangle all the more powerful.


Of course, I'm probably wrong and it's the 6 main characters.

[underpants]

56. Right, he could have left without anyone knowing it-he had passports and cash for some reason

:shrug:

BTW- Ben mentioned Sayeed's "Friends" twice-this would appear to be what he is manipulating in order to play Sayeed...or is Sayeed just going along to get to another level?

[murielm99]

49. I missed it.

I was out tonight, and my husband forgot to tape it for me.

How long do I have to wait to see it online? Where do I see it?

[Pacifist Patriot]

50. You can see it now! Go here

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing?lid=ABCCOMGlobalMenu&lpos=FEP

Heck, I think I might watch it again just to see Sayid in a tuxedo.

[mainegreen]

53. Yes. It did. Sayid episodes are great.

:D

[grace0418]

69. Especially Sayid episodes with removal of clothing.

:)

[Pacifist Patriot]

93. Meow!

[underpants]

58. 31 Minutes + Sayeed's "friends"

the difference in the timers on the payload and the timer that Dan Farraday had was 31 minutes that COULD BE Longitude or Latittude. So the island can move? or can it appear not to be where it is????

The bracelets on Noami and the Economist's assistant were the same

Ben seems to be manipulating Sayeed to protect Sayeed's "friends" is that the other Oceana 6 or the ones still on the island?

Mr.Everly is no longer on the list.

[redqueen]

64. What if the island isn't on earth?

Different dimension? Some kind of limbo between life & death perhaps? Or this life & the next?

There was an Oceanic 815 found under the sea near Bali, as shown last week... but didn't Kate & Jack meet the pilot in the cockpit on the island?

And Abbadon, the guardian of the abyss? Trying to find the people who should have died, but haven't?

[underpants]

72. Okay this goes into my side theory

This is born of 9/11 conspiracy not that I agree with them but it is on the Operation Northwoods (look it up) mode

The plane crash was used for political means THAT is why there was a plane planted and found. Sayeed would be the perfect patsie here- Iraqi.... - and Kate as the accomplice.

Just something to keep in mind.

[redqueen]

81. Yeah... Sayid would make a great patsy, no doubt.

I want it to be all x-filesy and shit though.

[Sock Puppet]

74. I think the island exists 31 minutes in the past

[Zuiderelle]

97. That's what I think too.

[yawnmaster]

109. yes...there is a time factor it seems...

I believe the person on the ship detected that the payload reached the target, didn't she?
So that would rule out that the island is moving. There is some kind of temporal effect here.
But why wasn't the radio signal delayed?
I'm also thinking perhaps there are alternate realities involved here.

[Wetzelbill]

66. Michael Emerson and Larry Hagman are the two best tv bad guys

I have ever seen. I will make that bold of a statement. Ben is as good at being bad as JR Ewing. Michael Emerson is a joy to watch. It's like he was born to play Ben, he just blows me away.

[underpants]

73. He is truly fanstastic

How he hasn't gotten an Emmy should be investigated. He IS Ben at this point-I hope they are paying him well because for the rest of his career he will be Ben (but then he clearly is a fantastic actor so...)

I could tell by the cadence of speech that it was him, I froze the TiVo and called it to my wife.

[Rob H.]

84. Actually he has won an Emmy, just not for 'Lost'

He won in 2001 for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series for his role as serial killer William Hinks in a six-episode story arc of The Practice. He was excellent in that role, and as Ben--he's definitely got that creepy, menacing thing down, that's for sure!

[underpants]

94. Good

he is great

[redqueen]

82. Yes... he's great.

[LanternWaste]

83. So far, this season is blowing me away...

So far, this season is blowing me away to an extent seasons II and III couldn't even dream of.

My pal comes over to watch it most weeks and he mentioned some time back that watching Lost is everything he wanted from Twin Peaks, but never received...

[Iris]

86. interesting!

How long was Twin Peaks on? Did it make it to a 3rd season?

[LanternWaste]

99. I don't remember how long Twin Peaks lasted...

Wow! I honestly don't remember how long Twin Peaks lasted. I gave up on it after a season (about the time I realized that Lynch simply wasn't my cup of tea...).

Regardless of how long its run was, I think my pal was referring to the sense of payoff we as Lost fans get every episode. Sure, we're in the dark for the most part, but it seems that every episode has at least one or two answers (in addition to twice that amount of new questions).

Now, off to the Lost Boards for me!!!

[graywarrior]

100. It's like "getting off" once a week.

[Iris]

105. hey. We weren't talkin't about all that eye candy from last night!

ha!ha!

But really, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I leave satisfied but ready to come back from more the next week!

[ghostsofgiants]

124. Twin Peaks only had two seasons.

[Yavin4]

88. Michael, and Maybe Walt, Will Be On The Freighter

When that chopper lands, Sayed will see Michael, and possibly Walt.

[Pacifist Patriot]

89. Do you think that is to whom Ben is referring when he says he's got someone there?

[Yavin4]

107. Yes

Michael is there with Walt.

[Iris]

108. wow! Good call.

Did you read this somewhere or is this just what you've come up with? It sounds like a strong possibility! If you thought it up yourself, I'm truly impressed!

[Yavin4]

115. Seriously, I Just Thought of It

Michael has got to be somewhere, and it makes sense that he's on the freighter.

[Iris]

120. That's exactly what I thought when I read your post!

now we have something else to watch for!

[SOteric]

106. That twist at the end was da fucking bomb!

I spent the whole episode looking for clues as to who Sayid was working for, anything, - any subtle hint. The minute I heard that voice I knew, but it was stunning.

[Fran Kubelik]

121. It's funny. The minute Sayid threw away that cell phone...

...I turned to my partner and said: He's working for Ben.
It just seemed to make sense.

But why did Sayid grab that snow off the top of the garbage can? Did it have some significance?

[Ivan Sputnik]

122. Could Ben actually be one of "the good guys" after all?

Although he can't really be "good", since he obviously thinks the ends (whatever they are) justify the means. I guess it depends on what is at stake. Perhaps he thinks that whatever Dharma is trying to accomplish (time travel?) is so dangerous that it literally threatens all of humanity.

[darkstar]

123. Ouestion on the Else/Sayid thing

So....she was hiding her true understanding of their real relationship, too, right. That is, her phone call makes it clear she has known who Sayid was from outset, esp. after he tells her he was one of Oceanic 6. We know why Sayid was string her along; but to what end was she stringing him along? Why not have her team shoot/capture him and them ask the questions they seem to want to ask of him there at the end. Or was this a case of the twists getting in the way of the writing?