Too busty to fly? Southwest tells young woman to cover up her DDs

[NewJeffCT]

I thought this deserved its own thread... seems like a pattern at Southwest, though.





Another flier on Southwest Airlines has come forward and is upset that she was asked to cover up as she was dressed what the airline (or more likely some passenger that complained) too provocatively. Like Kyla Ebbert before her, she is now making the media rounds complaining.

Setara Qassim said she was asked to cover up because of her plunging neckline and short skirt. Setara says "the flight attendant came up to me and asked me if I had a sweater and I said no because why would I pack a sweater in the heat. So, I asked her why and she said I need to cover up."

***

Airline spokesman Chris Mainz says that Southwest lets their employees make the judgment call on passenger’s outfits. “We don’t have a dress code,” Mainz says. "We rely on our employees to use common sense good judgment and good taste. It’s so rare for us to have to address a customer’s clothing issue."

http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=17&num=16048

[KamaAina]

1. I think I'm in the wrong line of work

when I saw "DD", I processed it as "developmental disability". :shrug:

[FalconsRule]

2. Southwest needs to stop this crap

I will never fly them.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

83. The passengers complaining about DDs need to stop this crap.

:P

[Political Heretic]

116. SERIOUSLY.

[sasquatch]

3. I want these employees charged with Federal Civil Rights violations

and the person that complained should be given the "Biggest Douchebag World" award.
x(

[La Lioness Priyanka]

4. thats ridiculous. i have flown in less.

[NewJeffCT]

5. On Southwest, though?

Or, maybe you don't fly with the Taliban?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. no i mean its ridiculous for them to do. and i dont think i have flown southwest

[NewJeffCT]

17. yes, it is ridiculous

seems to be common on Southwest, though.

[kwassa]

8. Now you've done it. This subthread is useless without .....

you-know-what.

[quip]

72. It *had* to be posted

[pokerfan]

6. Southwest in the seventies

[kwassa]

9. I like the highly functional belts.

[Lasher]

74. I liked National's 'fly me' advertising campaign.

Not too suttle though. Might as well have just said, 'oink me.'

[Bucky]

99. See, they even provide living demos of the acceptable bust size! And still this lady...

pffff, some people just don't get it.

[flvegan]

10. Seems like a plunging neckline on SW Airlines is a good stepping stone

to get in the public eye. Think I'll try it.

If Southwest is stupid enough to complain, let 'em cash in.

[Guava Jelly]

11. This is an OUTRAGE!!!!

:mad: I never get the good flights :(

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

58. I always get the morbidly obese insurance salesman from Akron...

I'll pay extra, if that's what it takes!

[edbermac]

12. Beats looking out the window at the Grand Canyon.

:7 :7

[NewJeffCT]

14. or maybe

you can say every flight with Setara Qassim offers a grand canyon view?

:hide:

[krispos42]

90. Yes, easier to look IN at the Grand Canyon

:rofl:

[hornblast]

13. no one wanst to see her on that new German airline?

the one that is strictly clothes-optional..... :evilgrin:

[LynneSin]

15. This woman has paid good money for her breasts - just getting her money's worth out of em

:eyes:

[FalconsRule]

16. Of course they could be real

But I don't have x-ray vision...

[LynneSin]

19. Usually women who aquired them naturally tend to not be so narcissic

If anything they realize they're more of a hinderance expecially with clothing and the overall health of their back.

When you spend good money on them you can't wait to put them out there for everyone to see. It's a shame that society has this perverse ideal that the larger the breast the more attractive.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule

[FalconsRule]

21. So it's probably

best not to assume then?

[redqueen]

24. You know, that's a very good point.

I never thought of it that way before...

[redqueen]

65. Actually no... that's not a good point at all..

I know lots of small-boobied women who show them off often... and also large boobied women who show them off often... and also women with all sizes who don't show them off.

That's just a personality preference, nothing to do with boob size or whether they're real or fake.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

80. sorry my boobs are a delight and not a hindrance.

:)

[sasquatch]

92. I'll say

:7

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. so you think the airline should be able to dictate what i wear on flight?

assuming its legal and not a health/safety hazard, why should they be given this right over my body?

[LynneSin]

22. Wowza - talk about reading alot into a sentence

any other hidden message you finding in there - like who shot JFK, who will get the nomination in the fall and what tonight's winning powerball numbers are?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. ummm ok. still doesnt answer why she shouldnt be able to wear a halter on a flight

whether or not her boobs are real.

[LynneSin]

28. Probably because I never made a comment that either supported or opposed it

So should we poll every DUer how they feel about it. But go ahead if you feel like making a flame war out of a comment you've read way too much into. Because my next reply will be the standard "whatever"

[La Lioness Priyanka]

30. whatever. nt

[LynneSin]

31. See - - doesn't it feel better that way

:D

[La Lioness Priyanka]

32. actually it doesnt. nt

[LynneSin]

35. well, whatever

:shrug:

[DS1]

55. the only way to win is to not play

How about a nice game of chess?

[redqueen]

61. *snort*

[FalconsRule]

29. Obviously

Some people think the intentions/actions of others are guided by naturalness, or lack thereof, of their breasts...

[Boojatta]

51. I don't see anything in there about JFK, but I'm reading a few powerball numbers there.

They're a bit fuzzy though. One of them is even. One is odd. Another feels a bit like a prime number, but it might simply be relatively prime to the odd number or relatively prime to the even number.
:+
:hi:

Actually, you know what? I don't think there's any hidden message about the powerball numbers. What's hidden is the name of a relative of the powerball winner. I think it starts with an L or has an R in it near the beginning. There seem to be at least two Os in there or maybe it's a Q or a B or maybe it's that R that I mentioned I saw near the beginning of the name.
:hide:

any other hidden message you finding in there - like who shot JFK, who will get the nomination in the fall and what tonight's winning powerball numbers are?

[Deja Q]

109. ...

:rofl:

Oh, come on, hidden messages rock! They can be found anywhere. Like pennies or dust bunnies... I find them all the time too! :D

And in some extremes, that's when Risperdal and Lithium come in handy... :evilgrin:

[FalconsRule]

25. I'm with you on this 100%

They have NO right to tell you what to wear or not wear, except for the issues you noted. This is getting out of hand.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

33. nor is it narcissistic for someone with big boobs to wear a halter top

whether the boobs are real or fake.

[FalconsRule]

34. No argument from me

Wear what yah like!

[Pithlet]

37. I agree.

I've always hated it when smaller chested women will say things like "I can wear a tank top without looking like a slut!" I hear that all the time. I have big boobs, acquired by good old fashioned genes fwiw. I don't see why I should have to be ashamed of them. I wear tank tops and halter tops in the summer, and screw the haters who think I'm a narcissistic slut.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

38. seconded.

[NewJeffCT]

43. my ex was very sensitive about it

she had a big chest and would often wear clothing that was unflattering so she wouldn't get stares. I remember even buying her a sweater once, and then afterwards she complained that she got too many stares & whistles and never wore it again. She even said one of the reasons she liked me so much in the beginning was because I was the first guy she had met that didn't talk to her chest first... not a great reason, in my opinion, but I've never been in her shoes. (she also had big blue eyes as well, so that didn't hurt)

But, I also knew a girl from my high school ages ago that was similar - she only went on blind dates set up by her girlfriends because she was so concerned about guys only liking her for her chest. I think I remember hearing she married a guy she met on a blind date.

[DarkTirade]

47. I first met one of my exes when she was wearing a very baggy T-shirt

and so I didn't even realize just how huge her boobs were until I saw her wearing other clothes later. Of course, I don't think it would have mattered if I had stared straight at them the whole time, because she fell for me the minute she saw me. :P

[NewJeffCT]

54. It was hard to miss them with my ex

we were set up by a mutual acquaintance and chatted on the phone for a while before we actually went out on a date (well, it was more like, I listened while she spoke - she was very talkative, too)

but, right before we met, she broke her foot and when I pulled up in front of her place, she came hopping out on one foot to greet me... and, well, I certainly knew hers were real right away.

[DarkTirade]

59. Yeah, I've dated a few girls who were really big.

Two with DDs and one who was even bigger than that... she wasn't fat at all, but I could barely get my arms around her. That's how big they were. And all three of them were completely natural. The largest one knew she would probably have to have reduction surgery at some point, otherwise she was gonna end up with back problems. There is such thing as too much.

She was really cute though, despite her odd proportions. I wish things had worked out better between us. (and by that, I mean I wish we'd dated long enough to get in some happy naked fun time. :P But alas, it was not meant to be. She was rather prudish and inexperienced with dating, and I was on the rebound and not in the best position to be with someone like her.)

Oddly enough, all three were below 5'1 too. And on girls that short, big boobs look even bigger.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

60. that last line is so true "on girls that short, big boobs look even bigger"

[DarkTirade]

63. For some reason I went through a whole string of relationships

that were only with really short girls.

Come to think of it... up until the most recent girl I met, every girl I dated since high school was below 5'2. Huh.

Just coincidence, it's not like I have a fetish for them or anything. Honest. :P

[NewJeffCT]

77. yes

my ex used to say she was 5'1", but I think if she was accurately measured for height, she'd come out closer to 4'11" - her parents used to tell her that she was really adopted and Dolly Parton was her real mom.

[Maine-ah]

67. "And all three of them were completely natural"

she had three boobies? :wow:

[DarkTirade]

69. I was debating whether to try and be funny and put

(or should I say six?) after that. :P

[pokerfan]

115. "Hey Marge, guess how many boobs I saw today?"

"Fifteen!" - Homer Simpson on Spring Break

[eppur_se_muova]

110. "all THREE of them were completely natural"?!?

Dude, that is NOT natural!

[Connonym]

48. Amen

I'm so sick of the attitude that large breasts are something to be ashamed of and hide away as well as the notion that every woman who has large breasts not only has implants but is also a shameless slut on top of it all. Bull.Shit. I find it much more interesting how women are so keen to put one another down with snide comments about fake breasts. Some of us have the real thing and aren't one little bit ashamed of it.

That woman's breasts are completely covered by the halter top. There's nothing indecent about it unless maybe you're Amish and I'll bet you 6 M&Ms that hundreds of smaller-chested women dress like that every day and nobody gets all upset. To me this sounds like it's the result of a complaint by A) an infantile man who can't control his sexual thoughts or B) a woman who is insecure about her own cleavage. Either way, pathetic.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

50. i wish i could recommend this!

[Pithlet]

52. Exactly.

Real or fake, it doesn't matter. Even if it did, I don't know how anyone can look at the pic in the OP and make the determination either way. I'm built very much like that woman. I'll hear comments about women shaped like us; "No way are those real, skinny women never have big boobs". It's just ridiculous. Women come in all shapes and sizes, either natural or enhanced. I think we should be able to wear what we want, what we're personally comfortable with without the harsh judgments.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

53. when i was skinnier i used to hear about my fake boobs all the time

now that i am fat atleast i have stopped hearing that :(

[NewJeffCT]

56. you're not fat

however, you might be carrying yourself differently because you think yourself fat and you're projecting a slightly different image.

did you also get women commenting that they wanted to get boobs that looked like yours if they got implants?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

57. yeah i did get that a few times

[krispos42]

91. Curvy!!!!

Washboard abs and/or viewable ribs are not sexy, imho. Curvy = warm and soft and snuggable and touchable. It's no fun running your hand up and down a xylophone!

[Redstone]

66. You point being, I think, much the same as my own opinion about the breast size of any given woman:

"Doesn't matter if they're big or small, it's who they're attached to that counts."

I've had relationships with women who had breastage ranging from whatever's less than an A cup, to ones even more well-endowed than Mrs R. And the breastage those women had, or didn't, was never even the slightest factor in me deciding if I liked them or not.

Now the SHOULDERS...those, they had to have good ones of. And the lower back, where it swells out to the hips...Christ, don't get me started.

Redstone

[DarkTirade]

71. I'm with ya there.

I went straight from a relationship with a girl who was barely an A cup to one of the ones I mentioned who was a DD cup. And I thoroughly enjoyed naked time with both of them. (or should I say all four of them? :P )

[redqueen]

76. That pretty much sums it all up, right there.

:thumbsup:

[FalconsRule]

81. No doubt in my mind

it was B. Jealousy is a prime motivator for many.

[SarahB]

114. Definitely,

I'd bet my last dollar the women here who get into the biggest tizzy over this stuff are not comfortable with their own bodies and their own sexuality. If you're comfortable with yourself and have your own healthy, active sex life, this stuff is pretty much a non-issue.

[DarkTirade]

68. As someone who lived in an incredibly hot and humid place for 20 years

I completely agree with you. Despite the fact that I have no (or at least I'm trying to lose some weight to make sure I don't get any) boobs.

Sometimes what's comfortable is also what shows off a particular part of one's body. C'est la vie. I've always had rather broad shoulders, and now that I finally have some muscle on 'em I am a bit proud of them... but when I wear a tank top it's because I don't want to overheat. Not because I want to show off my muscles.

Well, most of the time when I wear a tank top. :)

[Pacifist Patriot]

94. Depends on the weather

:hide:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

96. depends on taste and how you think of your body.

[DarkTirade]

126. Either way deals with comfort.

Either physically or mentally.

[MissMillie]

39. lol

:thumbsup:

[Bake]

82. sounds like sour grapes to me ...

:evilgrin:

Bake

[sasquatch]

85. Nice post, Village Idiot

:D

[Lorien]

104. They look real to me. Either way it's discrimination

I've seen many an overweight tourist here in Florida wearing less than that on an airplane and they weren't asked to cover up. It hardly an outlandish outfit.

[Richardo]

20. Looks like she came straight from her job as a cocktail waitress at Caesar's Palace

Not that that's a bad thing.

[Orsino]

23. What's to be done about the conservative sense of entitlement...

...that drove some poor sap to believe in a right to make this woman cover up? We're going to be decades wiping out this poor excuse for actual management, so deeply is it entrenched.

[redqueen]

27. Perhaps SWA would like to offer a burqa free with every ticket.

Puritan bastards. They need to STFU.

[Iggo]

36. They got it backwards.

They should've kicked off the person who couldn't fly with someone with nice boobies. Problem solved.

[ashling]

40. This is the same airline that

started out by catering to businessmen and put their flight attendants (I believe they called them stewardess back then) in short shorts, put female names on their planes with the ad campaign "fly me"
:rofl:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

41. apparantly "misogyny is us" is there motto. nt

[Boojatta]

70. How do you know that their slogan isn't...

"A proud history of titillation. A strong but not quite zero-tolerance policy on tits."

[BarenakedLady]

42. God forbid

Someone saw some boobies.

:eyes:

What year is this again?

[NewJeffCT]

44. The year of the Taliban, apparently

Get yer burqas here.

[Wetzelbill]

45. no comment

for once, I did not insert my foot into my mouth. :)

[zingaro]

46. Maybe they can issue a burka to each female passenger.

That might appease Southwest's "we don't have a dress code" rhetoric when discussing "common sense and good taste."

[BuelahWitch]

49. If that is the outfit she wore, I don't see the big deal about it

The neckline is low, but everything looks like it's staying in place...:shrug: A short skirt might be titillating to someone sitting directly beside her, but otherwise...:shrug: again

[Redstone]

62. You know what would REALLY piss me off? If I was on that flight, and there was a chance

she'd be sitting next to me, and they deprived me of that opportunity.

Hell, I'd have let her SHARE a seat with me, and not complained. (On edit: Not because of her hooters. Because she is, in general, so DAMN gorgeous. Yes, I'm a complete pig for having such a weakness for pretty women, but hey, at least I'm an HONEST pig.)

Redstone

[quip]

73. All you do is give, Redstone! Give, give, give.

:patriot:

[Redstone]

75. I'd carry her suitcase, too. I'm just that kind of guy.

Redstone

[Boojatta]

78. Pig? You sound more goat than pig. Maybe rooster.

[Redstone]

79. Thank you. I'll look, but not touch. I sincerely believe that an attractive woman is every bit as

a Miracle of Nature as is a pretty waterfall, or a mountain range that you can't stop looking at as the sun sets over it. (And so does Mrs R.)

But the attraction stops RIGHT THERE (at looking), because I made certain promises in my wedding vows.

Redstone

[mtnester]

64. Here is the lawsuit/settlement in a nutshell:

“We don’t have a dress code,” Mainz says.


EVYTHING else in that article is irrelevant. Mouth, meet foot. Settle up SW.

[geardaddy]

84. Here's a picture of the Southwest flight attendant uniform:

[Pacifist Patriot]

86. Looks like weird old doctored pictures of B. Spears to me.

[NewJeffCT]

87. well

she looks better than the two that claimed that SW discriminated against them because they were too hot.

[hedgehog]

88. Well, at least she doesn't have her hair cut in a Mohawk! nt

[SeattleGirl]

89. Oh noes! Bazooms! Hide the children, Katie!

Geez, people need to grow the fuck up!

[qb]

93. SW could save themselves a lot of hassle my just telling complainers "Here you go!"

[SarahB]

95. Next time I'm in a warm climate,

I'll wear a sweatshirt as not to offend with my DD's. :eyes:

[NewJeffCT]

97. I'll promise not to look

too closely.

[SarahB]

118. Didn't you see me in the Stop & Shop parking lot

in a tank top once anyway? :P

[NewJeffCT]

119. you were driving a car

so, I only saw your head/face.

[IntravenousDemilo]

98. Sounds like a flight attendant was feeling a little inadequate about her own ta-tas.

'Cause if she can't have big, nicely shaped breasts, then no one can, damn it!

Envy is not an attractive feature in service industry employees.

[Darth_Kitten]

106. Women don't give a damn about other women's "ta-tas"

geez......

It's cold up there at 35,000 feet, look at the way the girl is dressed?

Attention seeker.

[SarahB]

117. Plenty of lesbian and bisexual women notice and like them a lot.

Just saying. :shrug:

Besides, is there something inherently "bad" about seeking attention? I wear figure hiding scrubs in my professional life, but in some settings I like looking sexy. On a plane? Probably not my personal preference, but I wouldn't spend my time thinking about it much or making snap judgments. To want to look sexually desirable isn't weird or wrong. Human sexuality is a normal thing.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

121. women do care what other women look like. especially when other women

are far more attractive then them

its human nature sort of, like you notice when someone has a nicer house/car/job/whatever

[NewJeffCT]

122. I've noticed women do that

notice how other women look/dress that is.

Guys seem to do it less with other men than with material things, like a car or a house.

Of course, that is just what I have seen/observed over the years.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

123. its what is valued. good looks is still highly valued in women so we judge others

and ourself for it. wealth is the same for men

[NewJeffCT]

124. true

but, good looks are valued in men, too. However, when I see a guy that a lot of women think is good looking, I often find myself wondering why. I'll admit it if I see a guy and I'll say, "ok, I can see why women think he's good looking," but that doesn't happen very often. And, I'm not talking about certain famous actors - just guys in the office or whatnot.

[Darth_Kitten]

125. Shallow women may care, but this one doesn't.......

couldn't care less about the size of anybody else's "ta-tas"......seriously.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

127. well i think its more insecurity than shallowness

[Darth_Kitten]

129. Yes, that as well.

Just think women should stop downing themselves so much. Don't buy into what they "should" be, what they "should" look like.

[Fox Mulder]

100. Jesus Christ.

[tigereye]

101. she looks like a lot of women in America

what's the big deal? :shrug:


why should she have to cover up - reminds me of a line from Persepolis - why should women have to cover up since others can't control their thoughts.... ;)

[matcom]

102. I'd hit it

[sasquatch]

111. I'm gonna tell TM

:D

[Lorien]

103. Would they have told her to cover up if she were a size 18 with double Ds?

I'd guess "no" as I see plenty of very large under dressed tourists at my airport (in Orlando). They seem to only make an issue out of it when a woman is very attractive, which is certainly discrimination of a sort. Enough already; I'm sick and tired of people being shamed for their physiques, whether they are overweight or blessed with youth and good genes (or a good surgeon; that's all a matter of personal choice and no one's business, imho).

[LeftyMom]

112. No, but they might have charged her for a second seat.

Southwest does that by policy with travelers overweight enough not to fit in one seat. Which sounds kinda shitty, but having got half of the already-too-cramped-for-comfort seat I paid for because somebody else is taking up all of theirs and half of mine, I suppose it beats the alternative of forcing the neighbor to get less space than they paid for and a miserable flight.

[Lorien]

131. Well, most size 18 women don't take up two seats

but I have been seated next to a 300+ pound man who took up much of my seat, and that was very unpleasant.

I guess I could rephrase the question to simply: if she were just plain unattractive and dressed that way, would they have still demanded that she cover up?

[Oeditpus Rex]

105. Where does it say she wears a double-D?

:shrug:

[NewJeffCT]

107. there was another article about her...

I'll see if I can dig it up.

Southwest Airlines Has Beef With Double-D's

* Wow, "Keith" must be working some serious overtime! Southwest Airlines gave another woman hell for wearing "revealing" clothing, just a week after a woman was nearly booted off a flight for wearing a mini-skirt. Setara Qassim was forced to wear a blanket by a flight attendant because she thought Setara's top was too low cut. Dude, is it just us, or does Southwest seriously have a problem with girls with ample breasts
http://jezebel.com/gossip/broadsides/southwest-airlines-has-beef-with-double+ds-299032.php

video:
http://www.11alive.com/video/player.aspx?aid=79016&bw=

[Deja Q]

108. Dang. I'll fly her anywhere!

:wow:

[The Animator]

113. If I were on that flight I'd complain too.

Animator: "Excuse me, but do you see that woman over there?"

SWA: "Yes, someone has already complained about her. We've made her cover up."

Animator: "What the hell for?"

SWA: "Well, she's... dressed inappropriately."

Animator: "I'll say, some douche just made her put on a blanket!"

SWA: "I'm not sure I follow."

Animator: "I'm not surprised."

SWA: "I... uh.."

Animator: "Look that woman is wearing far too much clothing!"

SWA: "What?!!"

Animator: "Look at her, she how uncomfortable she is? Her boobs are suffocating under that thing? For Godsakes let those Puppies breathe!"

SWA: "Sir, I really don't think.."

Animator: "Apparently not."

SWA: "Now you wait just a.."

Animator: "What anal retentive, sexually repressed, holier than thou, gym sock sniffing zombie complained that this, marvel of modern genetics was somehow disrupting the flight?"

SWA: "Actually it was person sitting next to her, he's a respectable..."

Animator: "Yeah.. yeah... better check his closet alter boys."

SWA: "Now that is absolutley.."

Animator: "True... tell you what, why don't you just have her switch seats? She can come sit with me. I don't care how she's dressed, hell, she could be nekkid for all I care... as a matter of fact..."

SWA: "Sir there is already someone sitting next to you..."

Animator: "Yeah, and this ugly bastard's already starting to get on my nerves... see how red he is? I don't think that bulge on his forehead is natural. All I said was that I recognized him from his repeated appearances on the Top Ten Conservative idiots..."

SWA: "Oh my God.."

Animator: "It's pronounced, Charlie, sweetheart."

[baldguy]

120. ... and Southwest Airlines gets more free publicity.

[Fire Walk With Me]

128. We have found the WMDDs

and they are scrumptious.

[lunatica]

130. I have DDs

But I'm 60 years old and they just look like a massive matronly bosom now. They weigh a friggin ton and if I had the money and the courage I would get a reduction and lose a fast 20 lbs.

If men want them I think they should have them.