GREAT! My new place smells like weed! The guy in the other side of the duplex smokes like it's1960's

[Lady Freedom]

Grrr! Do you know how much that stuff stinks after a while? I mean come on! A puff now and again, not a big deal with me, but when my side fills up with it we have a problem worse of all, he is the land lord!

[MissHoneychurch]

1. I tend to get a headache from the smell

so I feel your pain :hug:

[cutlassmama]

2. sucks to be you. Seriously though, I'd call the police and tell them

you smell a "strange smell and don't know what it could be". you are in fear for your life. LOL. Maybe he'll quit playing Cheech and Chong for a while.

[Heidi]

3. Would you really call the cops on a pot smoking neighbor/landlord before first

attempting to discuss the situation with the person face to face? I wouldn't. I think we've got far too many drug offenders in our prisons already. :shrug:

[Sock Puppet]

29. thank you

:thumbsup:

[MonkeyFunk]

6. Narc

[Deep13]

13. Tweeker

[datasuspect]

7. snitches get stitches

[Deep13]

11. Wanna unpack that one for us?

:wtf:

[datasuspect]

14. a rat is one of the worst things a person can be

in some worlds, being a trick is on a par with being a pedophile.

at least they get "served" the same way.

or so i hear tell.

[Deep13]

16. Bullshit. There is either rule of law or else it is chaos.

People have a duty to advise the police of criminal activity. What you suggest is a system based on association and tribal loyalty with the locally powerful subjegating everyone else. If I see criminal activity in my neighborhood, I will be the first to blow the whistle. That is why my neighborhood belongs to its residents and not to thugs. And anyone coming to my house for retribution will leave in a body bag.

[Midlodemocrat]

24. Agreed totally. We got the drug dealer across the street out of the

neighborhood by calling the police every time he had a visitor. Talking to his mother would have done no good, because the activity was going on while she was home. Hell, she was probably his best customer.

[datasuspect]

30. your subject header is bullshit

and a false dichotomy.

would you clamor for "the rule of law" if it still mandated that blacks not share water fountains with whites?

or "separate but equal" as the "rule of law" as it concerns education?

default, uncritical, unreasoned adherence to the "rule of law" is probably worse than the imaginary chaos you describe. especially where it concerns nonviolent offenders and pot smokers. your statements align you with the police state.

the police are some of the worst thugs out there.

[Deep13]

32. False dilemma.

It is not all or nothing. The OP has nothing to gain and everything to lose by having criminal activity next door. By your logic all law is irrelevant because some laws are unfair or irrational. Whatever the case is for legalizing marijuana, the fact remains that you were suggesting that people who report crime are immoral, likely to be the target of retaliation and perhaps deserve retaliation. So either the thugs are in charge or the lawful authority is.

[datasuspect]

34. i didn't propose the dichotomy, you did.

what i said didn't imply that all laws are irrelevant, it implies that one must use judgment in deciding what a useful law is. it definitely implies that blanket adherence to "the rule of law" betrays intellectual feebleness and an authoritarian mindset.

people who index strongly for authortarianism use words like "all," "nothing," and speak mainly in either/or statements.

it is often better to tend one's own garden.

you can NEVER know who is in a person's sphere or whether they care if someone else outside of their network lives or dies.

these are situations i normally avoid.

now if it were a child molester, i would say cut the motherfucker's balls off and torture him for hours. then call the police.

if it were someone who perpetrated a huge injustice on someone weaker, get involved.

dragging the law into a situation where someone is smoking grass? this is busybodyism that is truly petty.

[Deep13]

38. Again, "snitches get stitches."

You are missing the whole point. It has nothing to do with marijuana. The question is, will we allow retaliation by criminals to subvert the law?
Your posts seem to say yes. You say "rats" are the worst people. Maybe to criminals they are, but not for the community.

And frankly, if that place is close enough that the OP can smell marijuana smoke, then it is her "garden." For all she knows, there could be a meth lab in there. Suppose the the land lord loses the property to forfeiture or nuissance laws because s/he allowed a criminal enterprise to exist on the property. That would certainly affect the tenants. Besides, even if the neighbor is doing grass only (no way to know) and even if grass is harmless (large doses can cause psychosis) the fact that it is illegal means that the neighbor may be attracting some pretty dangerous people. Ultimately, there is no reason to take a chance.

Drug dealers do perpetrate injustices on those who are weaker.

[Heidi]

39. The OP said nothing about drug dealing. She's disturbed that the pollution from her landlord's pot

smoking has infiltrated her new place and made it stinky. The civil and ethical thing to do is talk to the landlord. A true inujustice would be having the cops raid the landlord's place, possibly placing the OP in physical danger (given how many drug raids go awry). There is absolutely no evidence in the OP that a criminal "enterprise" exists; an enterprise would entail a risky, daring or difficult activity or a unit of economic activity. There's nothing particularly "risky, daring or difficult" about smoking pot in the privacy of your own home; the risk element enters the picture when the effects abridge Lady Freedom's right to live in a smoke-free environment, for which she is paying rent. Further, the OP did not imply that she suspected any economic activity related to the landlord's pot smoking. She's complaining about the smell invading her own apartment. datasuspect and you have gotten into such a pissin' match that you're ignoring the OP entirely.

I seriously can't believe that you, Deep13, a person I know and respect as rational, would call the cops before attempting a civil discussion with the landlord, a discussion I rationally suspect might be effective, since the pot smoker is a landlord who has much to lose from being suspected of or busted for breaking the law.

Respectfully submitted,

Heidi (not a pot smoker -- just a rational person)

[Lady Freedom]

41. That is my worry!

Deep13=And frankly, if that place is close enough that the OP can smell marijuana smoke, then it is her "garden." For all she knows, there could be a meth lab in there.

Oh God! If there is one, it could blow up! I could get killed!

[Deep13]

12. I agree.

And I wouldn't be coy about it either. Tell them it's cannibis smoke.

[RadiationTherapy]

47. I think she's making fun of you. I know lots others are. nt

[underpants]

15. Cops? Landlord? how about going over and telling HIM that it is noticeable

and if he still doesn't get a clue telling him that it is bothering you and THEN maybe calling the landlord.

Hell going over there might get you a little "special" for a quiet afternoon not that I do that sort of thing or anything

[Heidi]

17. Apparently, the pot smoker _is_ the landlord.

That's why I recommended talking to the landlord face to face. :hi:

[underpants]

22. Oh

well then ....uh.. that changes things :eyes::spank:


I would still go over and talk to him.

[Richard Steele]

43. Nice post, Hitler.

nm

[RadiationTherapy]

46. LOL. maybe he'll get arrested. LOL. Mybe it will ruin his life. LOL

maybe they will claim his property cvomes form drug deals. LOL. and they can just take it LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Yeah. Laugh. Real fucking loud. It's FUNNY.

[Heidi]

4. Talk to the landlord face to face, in a nice way:

make the issue about smoke, not the _kind_ of smoke, and explain that it genuinely makes you sick. :hi:

[Lady Freedom]

5. I can't even bring my new puppy home!

She is at my mom's house right now for safety! The Landlord owns 2 pit bulls that he tells me after I move in is known to have killed tow other dogs and several cats! I need to move...again!

[ThomCat]

9. Wow. This landlord does not sound like a responsible person

at all. I hope you find a much better place to live, quickly. :hug:

[SteppingRazor]

25. He's full of shit. If his dogs had killed multiple other animals, they'd have been put down.

As for the pot smoking -- come on, don't call the cops. We've got enough nonviolent drug offenders in jail as it is due to this asinine war on drugs. At the very least, please try to settle your differences first without bringing law enforcement into it. A study just came out that found that one percent -- one in one hundred! -- of the U.S. population is currently in jail, and most of them are there for nonviolent drug offenses. Please don't contribute to the police state unless you have no other choice.

[Heidi]

26. !

:thumbsup:

:yourock:

[datasuspect]

28. oh. my. god.

a voice of reason.

very cool!

[PeaceNikki]

36. You're dead on on everything.

I had the same thought abut the dogs. No way are they the godless killing machines depicted. They would have been confiscated and put down (rightfully so, I might add).

:thumbsup:

[Lady Freedom]

44. I did find out through a job contact that the dog in question is on strike 2

We have a 3 strike rule here, unless a person is involved. The the strikes come from the dogs that he killed, not the cats. No one reported them (cats). It is a VERY cat hating community I have foolishly moved into!

[ThomCat]

8. You might want to have a talk with your landlord

about betting an air-filter to control the smoke, because if the smell is getting into your half of the duplex it's probably getting outside too. Pot that can be smelled from outside is a problem, if he doesn't want both of you to get raided at some point by the cops.

[RainDog]

27. thank you

I cannot believe the people on this thread who would call the police on someone smoking pot. this is a victimless crime. this substance is illegal for the same reason we are now in Iraq... it's about biz interests and markets and nothing more. All the crap that's floated by officialdom is just that.

Nixon's task force recommended decriminalizing marijuana 30 -- 30 -- yes, 30 years ago. Why? Because they found it was not any worse than having a cocktail. Actually better than because it also has medicinal value. We have more people in our prisons than any other western democracy... and many of them are there because they smoked a joint. how stupid is that? what a waste of my tax dollars is that? Is the prison economy the only thing left that cannot be outsourced?

There are laws that are good and laws that are bad. The criminalization of marijuana is a bad law. Putting meth makers in jail is a good use of the law.

[RadiationTherapy]

48. but, what about this pot smoker's METH LAB!?!

HUH? What if he makes METH!? And sells it to high schoolers to fund terrorists...and then...his pit bulls attack his rig and and and it BLOWS!! It blows UP!?

YOU don't know he's not making meth. Better call the cops, let them crash in & ruin his life JUST IN CASE something more dangerous COULD be going on.

Secure the homeland, goddammit!

[Lady Freedom]

50. True, I don't know if he is.

But living in th 417, I have seen what happens when those things blow up. But I haven't smelled the tattle tale sign, something that puts you in the mind of burning band aids. I start smelling that,I am calling!

[RadiationTherapy]

54. You sound rational about this.

I'm sorry you have to smell someone elses 2nd hand smoke.

Good to know about the 'burning band-aid' smell.

[Lady Freedom]

10. kick.

:kick:

[DS1]

18. if only my landlord was a toker

*sigh*

[Lady Freedom]

51. Ya want to trade?

It smells to high heaven with weed smoke. And you have to put up with the two dogs.

[DS1]

55. the weed would cancel out the dogs and then some

but Missouri?

Nuh uh, Shaggy!

[Tektonik]

19. talk to your landlord nicely

If you cannot come to a resolution, then go to the cops.

[Phillycat]

20. I doubt talking to him will do any good, but I'd try it anyway.

If nothing changes, call the cops.

[MrsBrady]

21. call the police n/t

[RadiationTherapy]

49. fuck the po-lice, wiggitywiggity wiggity wig.

fuck the po-lice, wiggitywiggity wiggity wig.

[qb]

23. That is an annoying smell.

Your landlord should provide an air purifier designed for smoke or figure out some other way to keep his pollution on his side of the duplex. In the meantime... a certain someone I know has used Febreze to cover her tracks. It works pretty well.

[Lady Freedom]

52. Febreze huh?

I'll try it in my place. can't be any more expensive than the OUST I have been using (and not working!).

[guitar man]

31. eat a lot of beans,

saurkraut, tuna and egg salad etc. and fire back at him! Maybe he'll get the hint :D

[merh]

33. Bullshit to everyone - no talking to the landlord, no calling cops

Find a new place to live. The pit bulls are a danger to you and to your dog (hell, your dog can't even live with you) - the landlord tokes and chances are won't give it up just to please you. Call the cops and they find enough drugs at landlord's place and they can arrest him and begin forfeiture proceedings to take his home, your apartment included, because of the drug connection. (Don't laugh, it happens all the time.)

Best bet is to not unpack, to not settle in, to find another place for you and your pup.

The hell to the rest of it, you don't need the drama.

good luck :hi:

[Fran Kubelik]

35. This sounds like really good advice.

Regardless of how a person feels about drug laws, calling the police on this guy who owns the house you live in could have a pretty significant impact on YOUR life. If you can get out of the lease, do it quick, and get back with that puppy of yours!!

[merh]

37. I would think any lawyer could get her out of the lease

the pot smoking would be enough - unhealthy, unsafe, unlawful environment.

Hell, for that matter, she could probably write a letter asking to be let out of the lease and state the reasons.

[Lady Freedom]

42. I am looking hard!

I am next on a list for an duplex like apartment complex. Person moves out I get in. I have also been calling adds in the newspapers and walking around my, my parents and my sister's neighborhoods for "For Rent" signs and calling/writing down the numbers. But housing, specially rentals, is a dog eat dog world right now, favoring landlords.
As for the lease thing, I have a rental agreement that allows me to bail anytime I want to.

[merh]

56. Good luck in your search for a new place

and try to put some vinegar in some bowls in different corners of your apt, out of the way (even some charcoal) - that may help absorb some of smell.

[JVS]

40. Consider it a gift

[Lady Freedom]

45. Well a wheel of stinky cheese would do just as nicely!

IT STINKS!

On edit= I ran out of darn air freshener trying to cover it up! 2 darn cans of it!

[halobeam]

53. I would definetely talk to this person first. What if they are using it for medicinal purposes?

do you know if they are sick? I wouldn't call the cops. Imagine doing that to someone undergoing chemo or something. They get to go to jail for trying to keep down a meal. Please find out the situation first.