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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:34 PM
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Plane in Germany tries to land in 155mph winds
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=6761070&ch=4226714&src=news


:scared: :scared:

supposedly they landed ok on the 2nd try



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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:37 PM
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1. It's like that "Day After Tomorrow" film, except the strange weather isn't destroying landmarks
Why do asteroids always land in Paris, on the Sphinx, or plow straight through the Chrysler Building?

Wait, does global warming even cause asteroids to crash onto earth?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:37 PM
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2. those pilots are hardcore
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:50 PM
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21. those pilots are hard headed
:hi:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:06 PM
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3. Its A F-IN A-320 Airbus Gorn
I fly the 717 much better!!!! :rofl: :rofl:

:hi:


found 717
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:08 PM
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4. heh
I was going to be snarky and say it was you landing on a good day


bet the cleaning people had a hell of a time after that


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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:11 PM
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7. hey Gorn
I am flying JNU-ANC-JNU-PDX-SFO tonight, i will let you know!!!


:hi:

found 717
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LadyoftheRabbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:10 PM
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5. My worst nightmare
I hate flying to begin with. :scared:
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:11 PM
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6. Boy do I hate it for the folks on that plane! What a nightmare. n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:12 PM
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8. That looks scary
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:15 PM
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9. a little bit of damage
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:22 PM
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10. Imagine the guts it took to do the second approach.
Been in similar situation, but not at that much crosswind.
Landing at San Jose during Santa Annas.

First approach just sucked. Winds much higher that reported.
Initiated go around at 100'.
Next approach..."Oh shit."
A LOT more crab and kicked it out just a few feet above touchdown.
Whew.

Van to hotel.
Change into civvies.
Last one into the bar is a rotten egg.

Wonder why he didn't divert to his alternate.
Wind just as bad there?
Low on fuel?
Anyway, good job.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:28 PM
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12. Lots of questions that have been ignored, like
Didn't anyone notice that the cross winds were gusting that high?

and

What made the pilot think the winds were going to drop off by the time he took the second approach?

and

Did he just get lucky on the second approach?

and

Once he banged the wing, was a second approach his only choice?
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:29 PM
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13. He used a different runway on his 2nd approach n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:41 PM
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16. That answers one question, but why wasn't the flight directed to that runway originally?
I have the impression the German tower control poeple just aren't experienced with these conditions and don't recognize the hazards.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:46 PM
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19. I did a little googleing and found out that I misremembered some
recent incidents. I think the events I'm thinking of have happened at Manchester and London over the last year or so:

http://airlineworld.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/lufthansa-plane-landing-in-strong-crosswind/
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:48 PM
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20. I heard the winds were nearly equal on both runways, but this one had all the automatic
stuff for landing
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:26 PM
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11. 155 mph winds?
I don't believe it.

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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:31 PM
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14. I could not get the MSNBC feed on my puter
but my son told me this...

so yes...
no proof until someone sees the news footage


:hi:



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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:45 PM
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18. The *plane* was traveling at 155 mph, not the wind
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 07:46 PM by KamaAina
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23447309

Airline spokesman Wolfgang Weber said the plane was traveling at 155 mph when it was rocked by wind during its landing attempt....

(This version CORRECTS Corrects that plane was traveling at 155 mph; that was not the speed of the wind. Moving on general news and financial services. AP Video.)


edit: link
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:32 PM
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15. 155 mph?
The text said gale force winds. A strong gale is 76-87 mph and a whole gale is 88-102. At 120 it is officially hurricane force or Force 12 on the Beaufort scale.

Still pretty sporty any way you slice it.

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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:43 PM
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17. less than that.
The U.S. Government's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
defines a gale as 34 to 47 knots (39 miles per hour to 54 miles per hour)
of sustained surface winds.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:53 PM
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22. I defer to you, of course
and it probably won't be the last time wiki lets me down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale#The_modern_scale

But not 155mph.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:54 PM
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23. Balls of steel!
:wow:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:28 PM
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24. Scary. Apparently the travelors just sat quietly for a few momments once they
had safely landed. I'd be screaming.
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