At 17

[MissMillie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHOIT1ROk8

I learned the truth at seventeen
That love was meant for beauty queens
And high school girls with clear skinned smiles
Who married young and then retired.

The valentines I never knew
The Friday night charades of youth
Were spent on one more beautiful
At seventeen I learned the truth.

And those of us with ravaged faces
Lacking in the social graces
Desperately remained at home
Inventing lovers on the phone
Who called to say come dance with me
and murmured vague obscenities
It isn't all it seems
At seventeen.

A brown eyed girl in hand me downs
Whose name I never could pronounce
said, Pity please the ones who serve
They only get what they deserve.

The rich relationed hometown queen
Married into what she needs
A guarantee of company
And haven for the elderly.

Remember those who win the game
Lose the love they sought to gain
Indebentures of quality
And dubious integrity.
Their small town eyes will gape at you
in dull surprise when payment due
Exceeds accounts received
At seventeen.

To those of us who know the pain
Of valentines that never came,
And those whose names were never called
When choosing sides for basketball.

It was long ago and far away
The world was younger than today
And dreams were all they gave for free
To ugly duckling girls like me.

We all play the game and when we dare
To cheat ourselves at solitaire
Inventing lovers on the phone
Repenting other lives unknown
That call and say, come dance with me
and murmur vague obscenities
At ugly girls like me
At seventeen

[Tyler Durden]

1. One of the saddest songs ever written.

[terrya]

2. That song was written for a lot of people.

Including me. That was me in high school. All I needed to do was subsitute "ugly boys" instead of "ugly girls". It's a painful song...but real to those of us then.

[MissMillie]

5. Some of us still feel it.... long past 17

The world is hard and cold when you feel alone.

(don't mind me, it's a rainy day and I'm a little blue...)

[terrya]

9. I understand.

It is a very honest song. And I've felt the lyric you included more than a few times.

[LostinVA]

3. I, for one, welcome my new MissMillie overlord

Congrats on becoming a mod.

:toast:

[Tyler Durden]

4. Where at?

Can she kick some ass in that GD-P pit? That would be SOOO refreshing.

[LostinVA]

6. The Lounge

[MissMillie]

8. LBN

Thankfully I was spared the GD-P assignment... I didn't request any specific forum and would have gone where I was asked.

I imagine I will add my two cents to those Mod discussions in that forum.

[Tyler Durden]

12. I'm glad for your repreive, but sorry you won't be able to inject some sanity over there.

Good luck on the two cents: I'm feeling mean, and I'd make it a buck and a quarter up someone's nose. That forum is a disgrace, and it leaks all over everything else.

[MissMillie]

13. Yeah, we've got some pretty passionate people around here

I imagine that it can be easy to forget, sometimes, that we're all in this together.

(Geez... I sound like a diplomat)

[Tyler Durden]

19. Good God.

The last time someone used that degree of tact, it was raining, someone referred to it as a "...brief shower..." and some guy name NOAH built himself a BOAT.

That place is an Internet Superfund Site, and none of the Mods there is willing to clean it up. Leniency, maybe. Complete disregard of the rules, well...

[MissMillie]

20. think I should run for office?

LOL

[Tyler Durden]

21. Well, with tact like that, you'd hardly OFFEND anyone!!!

Well, LBN needs work too. I've seen MANY a thread disolve into a "REC FEST" or a one sided candidate slam.

Looks disturbingly like GD-P if you ask me. I do wish you luck.

[MissMillie]

22. well, our first instruction is to be polite

so saying "bite me" to the offending parties is "off the table" or so the expression goes.

[terrya]

14. I hear you.

I've decided it's pointless for me to post in there anymore. I mean, what IS the point? I've made my choice in the Illinois primary on Super Tuesday, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee. Beyond that, my input means nothing in the current battle between Hillary and Obama.

[MissMillie]

10. Thank you dear!

That beer looks good. One of these days I'm going to come down there and have one w/ you, and your trophy wife.

[LostinVA]

15. Seriously -- let us know, if you're ever in the NYC area

We're fairly close to the City.

[MissMillie]

18. I will

I don't travel very much... but if I am, I will let you know.

[Beer Snob-50]

7. It is a sad song but definatly sadder when you just read the lyrics

the saving grace is that many of those who made fun of the "ugly" girls back then are know fat cows themselves whose lives are nothing like they thought they deserved back then.

[crim son]

11. My mother introduced me to that song when I was a teenager.

She knew it fit. I never took offense.

[Swede]

16. Beautiful,sad song.

It's always been one of my favorites.

[BarenakedLady]

17. Heartbreaking

But beautiful.