I love the show Weeds. Weeds fans, check in!

[Downtown Hound]

Just had to say that. Just finished watching the season finale of Season 3, and I can't wait for season 4 to begin. Nancy is not only my new TV crush, but she's also my hero. She's just a woman doing what she believes she has to do to raise her kids in the fucked up economy of modern day America, and she goes through one trial and tribulation after another, but always comes out on top.

One of the funniest shows I've ever seen, and one of the most brilliant commentaries on the current state of our country that I think we are ever likely to see.

GO NANCY!

[Suich]

1. I love "Weeds!"

I don't have Showtime so I either have to go to my niece's in Canada to watch or wait until it comes out on DVD.

Probably the best thing I've ever seen on TV!

:hi:

[Lindsey]

2. I've seen several episode and dig it every time...

what I need to do is start with season one and watch from the beginning. I know it'll rate at the top of my list. So many people I know who have the same taste ad I do love it and tell me I'll love it.

[RainDog]

3. watch seasons 1-3 here

http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/weeds.php

it's even better when you watch it from start to finish. :)

[fight4my3sons]

4. thank you for that link

I love Weeds and we don't have Showtime either. :)

[MissMillie]

5. I'm loving Weeds!

I'm a season behind you.

[Downtown Hound]

10. Wait to you get to Season 3

It really blows your mind with all of the crazy stuff that happens in that season.

[RainDog]

6. It's great

It's funny, but Nancy's story took some really, really interesting turns during the 2nd and 3rd seasons... since I've recently seen season 3 (via the link below) I am still sort of processing the turns.

maybe someone else got this right away, but I finally "got" that -



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Guillermo played Nancy, too. He set her up with the rednecks (that's how Chester knew so much about her) and he burned her out on purpose, too.

the message was: get out of here. this is my territory. He said it earlier when Marvin and Nancy met up with him after U-Turn -left. Yes, he thought she was a hottie, etc. but his whole deal really was about "owning" her - more than U-Turn, even, because he was smarter about it. So, yeah, power politics when it's a matter of life or death.

when I first watched season 3, I sort of took Nancy and Guillermo's "talk" on the hill as a sort of mutual understanding... and it was, but the understanding was that she was out. - because he put her out - intentionally, because otherwise, he'd have to get rougher. She was just another problem like the rednecks. Only nicer.

Maybe you got that all along, but it took me some time because the show has a comedic/satirical frame - but Guillermo (and U-Turn) were totally serious. --And U-Turn was played so well by Page Kennedy. He was great. So, so intense, and human... That man is a powerful actor. To me, his character was never trivialized, even when he was dealing with marvin... and UTurn made the correct choices, based upon his reading of people's strength... and his funeral. that was just a little bit of beautiful. it really put the whole idea of how all Americans i.d. themselves by modes of consumption... and when you exist as part of the underground/cash economy, your way of showing this might be more blatant, but not really different.

(this is a demo reel of his work.. comedy roles, not just hard ass, like in Weeds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihlprdlk4u0

oh, and Conrad? Conrad's fine ass? Conrad's fine moves with his fine ass? (pardon me while I fan myself... it's suddenly so hot around here.)

Nancy's only real antagonists were her equals in crime... Peter (who was worse than we knew), U-Turn (who was more vulnerable than we knew), and Guillermo (who was a better chess player than we knew.)

And her business problems were from the non-professionals, non-serious ppl around her like Andy and Silas and Celia. I LOVED the moment when Nancy understood the thug training that UTurn gave her and it was no longer about pta rivalries, but about life and death. And to see Celia bounce around wanting to play with the big boys... totally out of her league in terms of real danger, real "bitchiness" - too good.

I also love the way the writers/directors were able to keep characters both appalling and still humanly appealing... not an easy thing to do - and of course the actors get a lot of credit too. that's what's so great when you see a piece of ensemble work that clicks in all the right ways.

I'd love to talk about this one. Have to attend to real life now, but bookmarking for later.

I've only gotten into 3 tv shows over the last few years. Sopranos, Weeds and this year's Project Runway. (Not to say I never watch tv, but otherwise it's standard fare - The Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama... hmmm, all cartoons except for The Daily Show.

So have you gone back to look at the storyline - thru the entire season or three? It's fun to do and get a bigger picture. Nancy sure has gone down some different roads since she got out of the 'burb... :)

[Downtown Hound]

11. Yeah, I bit torrented the entire series

Because I'm an evil criminal like Nancy, and I just got done with it. And I gotta say, the ending to Season 3 just blew my mind. I can't wait to see what they do with season 4.

As for Guillermo, you very well might be right that he set her up. But then again, maybe not. Remember that she offered to cut him in on half of everything she sells, which is a pretty decent chunk. And Nancy has access to clients that Guillermo could never get. So if he really is a good chess player, he might have decided that it was better to do business with her rather than drive her out. However, there was the incident with Dean on the motorcycle, so the biker gang definitely had their eye on Team Nancy long before she ever met them. So somebody tipped them off to what Nancy and her pals were doing. Maybe it was Guillermo, but Weeds has a way of coming up with complete surprises, so I can't be 100% sure.

[coffeenap]

7. A whole family of fans here--we got so hooked we watched

all of season 3 in one day! (I even let my almost 14 year old watch it--guess I should somehow be punished for that,:spank:)

[RainDog]

8. what do you think about Shawn's way of coping at the end?

at first I thought.. huh?

but really, his response made sense... he was in such a stressful situation... maybe thinking he was responsible in some way because he was with his dad when he died and didn't/couldn't save him...

and his dad's "ghost" allowed Shawn to tell truths to adults that he couldn't say when it got down to the really scary part of life.. when he started to learn a little bit about his mom's life and how her widowed status made his life so different.

....and Mary-Kate's character - yeeesh, what a scary girlbot.

oh, and the way Nancy had to deal with Silas... as an employee.. after his insistence... and as a mom... and which one has to come first, for survival... and Silas looking at being a mini-me of Andy (who I would love to bitch slap, but in a nice way) or actually learning how to be a serious person - with his father figure Conrad...

I'm too much of a hypocrite to watch the show with my kids. actually, my older son isn't interested anyway because it's not sports and he's totally uninterested in such things anyway (he worried b/c I had two glasses of beer when we saw Steve Riley and the mamou playboys... so we're a real wild party down kinda house... not.) My younger son is more interested in laughing at A Goofy Movie with his friends for nostalgia's sake.

which is all fine and good to me.

[Downtown Hound]

9. Well, to be perfectly honest

I'm not sure that Shawn really is making all the stuff about his dad up. I don't think the rest of them on the show are either. I'm actually hoping that one will never be definitely answered, I'd prefer it to remain a mystery. But remember that Shawn started talking to his dad after his alarm system was going off for no reason, implying that there was somebody in the house but didn't appear anywhere on his cameras. Even Nancy apologized to Judah before she burned her house down at the end, so she's not 100% sure he's lying either.


Ooooo, spooky.

[coffeenap]

12. About the kids watching part--

My 18 year old has always had the brain of a 35 year old anyway, and wouldn't put a mind altering substance into his body if he was threatened at knife point. He does understand the attraction of escapism as found in drugs as well as survival by whatever means possible, which is, of course, a main theme of the show. My younger one is very aware of the world around her, has been exposed to all kinds of, um, "information", so right or wrong, we watched it together. I did put my hands over the screen during the porn movie production, just because. She knows it is a TV show, fiction produced by adults for adults and that much of it is commentary on our society. She has a relatively sophisticated point of view and likes to get at the heart of social issues. That is the part she likes most about the show--but I am sure she picked up quite a few new pieces of "information" as well. Oh well, that horse has left the barn now!

Looking forward to June!(Gonna have to think on the Shawn thing--lots of possibilities there!)

[RainDog]

14. didn't mean anything bad in my comment, honestly

my whole point was that *I* am a hypocrite... :)

if my younger son wanted to watch the show (he's a senior in h.s., so it's not like he's a baby) I would have no problem with it. we talk about stuff all the time like this - he knows I think the drug war is a waste of tax money and that it's criminal to deny people with major or other illnesses access to m.j. b/c of its many useful qualities. And he also knows I think that things like this should be limited to legal adults, and even then, in our culture, with our laws, it's a calculated risk, depending on where you live.

When we were talking about drug and other stuff not too long ago, he told me that he didn't do anything of the sort... but, if he did, did I really think he would tell me the truth about it? (Because he knows I would not be okay with this for a variety of reasons.)

My older son is high-functioning autistic and he's just not interested in drinking alcohol or smoking pot. We were in a situation, a few years ago, in which ppl were most surely smoking... it was an outdoor public arena/music event and his comment to me was... what? do you think we have no idea what pot smells like? (I wasn't partaking. I was just wondering how much I should talk about it with them.)

As far as issues of medicinal marijuana- these documentaries will make you scream and cry.

Waiting To Inhale
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-929296011661546965

In Pot We Trust
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2200160322729097762

Just one more reason to wish I could move to Canada or Amsterdam....

maybe my new motto should be: wwnbd? as in- what would nancy botwin do?

[lumberingbear]

13. I disliked Mary Louise Parker on West Wing.......

because all she did was mumble. I do enjoy her on Weeds. She seems to open her mouth and I can understand her now.

(I know, I sound like an old geezer.......Hey you kids... get off that lawn!!!) :P

[RainDog]

15. I never saw an episode of west wing

I liked her performance in Angels in America, tho.

...which brings me to another -- moment.

This one moment in that performance was stunning -- when she's naked -- but I also, after the fact, had this sort of... whoa! historical shag carpeting (for lack of another way of putting it.) And in the 3rd season of Weeds, I had another sort of moment with a different character.... as in... we're so accustomed to porn star pubes as the expected "norm" that it's shocking when that's not the case.