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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:28 PM
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I'm so enraged as to be almost physically ill
I have this client who has honestly set my teeth on edge since the first moment I met him- some people just naturally do that to you. I never quite knew WHY I didn't like him- he's polite, friendly, he looks strong and handsome, and I just do not like him.

I have been to his home a couple times over the past year to work on his computer, and each time he has had a different dog. The first two got sick and died within a space of weeks of him getting them, one after the other. Riiiight. Nothing there to put my finger on, just a feeling. I don't know him well enough to say anything's going on. Move along.

Today I was there again and he had yet another dog, this time a six month old female mix. He said she'd been sick for a day or two, but she wasn't sick- she was cowering under a table, frightened to death to come out and get anywhere close to me. When I was left alone with her for a few minutes she bolted out of the room crying. I hadn't come within feet of her and I was talking as gently as I could to her to reassure her.

She was also frightened of his small daughter (who was acting loudly and boldly as children do), but she would go to HIM, tail between her legs, nose down and eyes looking upward at him.

Although I can't prove it or do anything about it, it's obvious this animal is being abused. If not by him then by his wife or child. This poor puppy girl is terrified, and I can do absolutely nothing about it.

I told him flat out I thought she had been abused as a pup, leaving the door open for him to say that a previous owner had perhaps damaged her. He denied that, and seemed not to really care.

I do not think I will ever willingly go back into his home- I don't want to go to prison in Texas for assault, and I'm afraid I might coldcock the bastard if I get half a chance, proof or not.

That animal does not have a chance.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:34 PM
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1. Is there any way you can report your suspicions to the ASPCA
or a local Animal Control department, or anyone who can look in on that poor dog?
:cry:

I want to be part of the crowd outside his house if anyone can prove he's hurting animals. x(
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:40 PM
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3. He's forty miles across town from me.
I have no way to prove anything, and if he's gotten away with it this long it means he's been doing it far longer than I've known him. How can I prove it's actually him from one short visit, since my suspicion is based more on a gut feeling than anything else?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:42 PM
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4. I don't know.
:(

But it would be nice if someone could investigate him. A dog terrified like that is definitely a credible sign of abuse.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:34 PM
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2. that poor puppy
:(

it makes me ill to think that anyone could do that to an animal
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:51 PM
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5. What a dreadful situation to be in...for you and the pup...
Is there anyone you know in the neighborhood?

It makes me sick to hear this...and to see you helpless ...

Wish there were something, anything, we could do...
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:55 PM
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7. It's way way way across town from where I live.
I know nobody there- it's just another generic middle class neighborhood on the edge of Frisco Texas. Even if I found someone to report it to I'd have no way of proving my allegations. Can Animal Control enter a house without definite proof of some sort?
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:54 PM
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6. I was Googling and found this - maybe it will help
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 09:55 PM by DeposeTheBoyKing
http://www.sniksnak.com/ac/report.html


In Texas, certain individuals suspecting child abuse are REQUIRED to report it to CPS. Too bad people aren't required to report animal abuse, as well.

I live in Irving - can you report it to the Dallas ASPCA and DEMAND that this man be investigated? Do you fear reprisal from him?

That poor dog. :cry:
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:57 PM
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8. Thanks for the link.
It encourages me to investigate further. :toast:
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BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:06 PM
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9. PLEASE - call your local Animal Control unit!!!!
If you call them, and explain your previous visits (meaning having two other dogs who just suddenly died), and THEN tell them about the new dog and how she behaved around you and the owner/daughter, they may very likely look into it.

I know every state is different, but if this guy has this kind of history with dogs, it's doubtful they will ignore your call.

JMHO.

Oh - and :hug:

People like that need a good whoopin'. :mad:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:50 PM
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30. Yes!! Please do this asap!
Last summer my husband and I noticed that two boxers down the street were confined to an area that had no shade and only a cement slab for the dogs to walk on outside their doghouse. It was in the hot sun in the middle of summer. We called our local animal shelter and they were so glad that we called! It's all confidential, and the people there really care and act as advocates for animals.

Please, do this immediately. No innocent animal should have to suffer. And if some dolt abuses animals, the next step is humans.

Call. You will feel better, and maybe save a life.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:09 PM
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10. grrr --
:grr: :nuke: :grr:



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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:41 PM
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11. Ditto!
And then Some!

:mad: :nuke: :mad:
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

Make an anonymous report to SPCA, even if you just use the Texas online site:

http://www.spca.org/site/Survey?SURVEY_ID=1460&ACTION_REQUIRED=URI_ACTION_USER_REQUESTS

Act on your instincts, PNS...do it for the puppy :hug:



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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:44 PM
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12. Hey Girl ....good to see you
and I hope he does report his "instincts"....and his "observations".
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:48 PM
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13. Thank you for the link.
Looks like this will be the way to proceed.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:09 PM
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14. People who abuse animals are effin sociopaths
I do not understand the need to hurt living thing like this. Is it control, domination? What? :shrug:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:26 AM
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19. I don't care if it's wrong to hate...
I absolutely HATE people who abuse animals.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:14 PM
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15. I don't think it would hurt to call the ASPCA and talk with someone...
If they don't follow through, at least you will have tried. Besides, if someone else calls on them, the ASPCA would definitely have reason to investigate.

:hug:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:39 PM
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16. Gotta ask yourself, what are you willing to do?
"it's obvious this animal is being abused."

"That animal does not have a chance."

In light of these statements, what might you be willing to do?
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 07:02 PM
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25. Just as leftymom
You have the rare ability to quickly identify and articulate clearly the essence of a problem.

You both have a thought process that rather easily filters out the noise to focus on relevant facts, rooting out cause not effect.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:41 PM
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17. Calling the ASPCA, Animal Control, someone can only help.
What harm is there in trying? People who abuse animals don't stop with animals, after all.
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Biscottiii Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:39 AM
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18. So sorry, THIS is horrific (not sure I will be able to sleep tonight thinking about it)
One thing HOPEFULLY by you researching and making your observations known, perhaps if he's getting these pets via the Humane Society they might put him on the list of being 'questionable'. Up here in Seattle, it's not enough to just walk in and pay an adoption fee. They want to know that the adoptive family has the ability to care for a pet. How did your last pet die/references (that's what I've heard at least, all my own pets have been inherited from friends that died).

At the VERY least, you would know that you TRIED. Oh, this is such a sad situation. Please will you let us know anything you've found out? Would give info to anyone else in such a situation.

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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:21 PM
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20. UPDATE
Sometimes these things take time, but action HAS been taken- Animal Control was notified, and they just contacted me to let me know they will be investigating this person and the condition of the poor animal. Obviously they can't simply break his door down, but I had a nice conversation with the investigator and was able to fill in some of the blanks for him. Hopefully they'll soon be able to remove this puppy from that home.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:28 PM
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21. this is great news!
You certainly did the right thing.
:hug:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:43 PM
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22. That is good news. Please keep us updated, if possible. n/t
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:45 PM
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23. I'm so glad!
:hug:
Thanks for taking the time to do the right thing!
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:49 PM
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Great news!
Thank you for taking action to help this puppy. :hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:49 PM
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24. My dear Prisoner_Number_Six!
Oh, most excellent news!

I'm hoping that the poor puppy will soon have a much more loving home!

Blessings on you for taking action!

:hug:
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:17 PM
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26. Glad you contacted them just in case.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 09:19 PM by CC
You have your instincts and should listen to them.


Though have to say, I have a little part spaniel part lab that is terrified of everything except me and the SO. She was born that way, that is why we ended up with her.I've known her since she was born and wasn't going to let her be put down because of her fearfulness. Even after 6 years and never ever being hit, yelled at, not even a correction with a leash Raven still cowers. She loves us petting her but will still tuck her tail and wait until she is at least 5 feet away before she wags it. Hell she has never been yelled at because if you just look at her like she did something wrong she cowers. We've tried socializing her, got pros and in the end it is just too stressful on her. She is happy here with her other fur friends and her two quiet humans so we don't try to force her any more. So there are dogs that are like that out there. Since this man makes your skin crawl and the other dogs disappeared I still think you were right to call and have them checked out. Always better safe than sorry.



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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:27 PM
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28. It's not just the one dog
It's the history of dogs getting sick and dying in his home. You'd feel it too if you met him. Trust me.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:41 PM
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29. I just read a great book called "The Sociopath Next Door". I highly recommend it.
This guy sounds like the perfect example of a sociopath.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:00 PM
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32. I noticed that, and think you are
right to follow you gut. Instincts are there for a reason. You did great figuring out who to call and calling.:yourock:



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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:59 PM
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31. bless this poor little fellow ...
... and thank you for your caring and action. This sounds so pitiful.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:21 PM
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27. i can't read all that right now.is there a synopsis somewhere on the net?
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