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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:16 AM
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Poll question: Religion Poll
What religion are you?
I had to make the scope pretty broad, because you are only allowed so many choices.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:40 PM
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1. all for one + one for all = infinity
:shrug:
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:42 PM
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2. Been an Atheist most of my life. Swear to God.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:53 PM
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3. Agnostic.
I'm learning the ways of becoming a Buddhist right now.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:54 PM
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4. Bottom four options. :P
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:45 PM
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5. Shamanism
With the belief that every speck of energy (including ourselves) which makes up our entire multidimensional universe is consciousness and all consciousness is Gawd.


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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:01 PM
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8. shamanism?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 05:01 PM by Mobius
what you are describing there sounds more like Buddhism
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:25 PM
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12. Thank you but Buddhists
Do not use plants or Shamanic drumming to gain altered states of consciousnesses into the none physical dimensions. Nor do Buddhists use OBE's to view inside of bodies for medical diagnosis and treatments. Nor do Buddhists use OBE's to recruit animal spirit helpers/guardians. Buddhists might (I am not sure) use OBE states to gain insight. If so, then, that would be one similarity.

But yes, I am aware of Buddhists having a similar view of our multidimensional universe.



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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:37 PM
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15. I agree but this is how you defined it
"With the belief that every speck of energy (including ourselves) which makes up our entire multidimensional universe is consciousness and all consciousness is Gawd."

Now whatever that religion is, its not Shamanism.
What you described there is maybe Animism at best.
I don't however believe in a God.
There is a oneness, a singularity the Web of Wyrd or Fate if you will. (no pun intended)
I believe in many, and I approach them daily.
I use OBE's to ask my fetch to reveal itself to me, but to say you "recruit animal spirit helpers/guardians" seems to imply that they are your employees, and to me, they are the extension of myself on the other side of the veil, and I consider myself lucky if they decide to be my guide.
I really wouldn't want to alienate or be so disrespectful of my fetch as you have done.
I have to ask how the recruitment is going?
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:01 PM
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18. OMG
What is with people like you? Do I have to write a whole fucking lecture to explain to you that I am in no way a Buddhist? Or that you're incorrectly trying to define my generalized post as not being what my Shamanic practices are?

If you were to do that in our sweat box or ritual room you'd be quite embarrassed.

And "disrespectful"? Excuse me sir but the only one being disrespectful here is you. I am only responding to your disrespect.


Sheeeze... There always seems to be some ass who seems to think they're Mr. Know it all, and have to inject into something they don't know jack shit about.



:eyes:


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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:25 PM
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25. sigh
not at all. I am not trying to define you. I am the last person to do that.
I was going off your initial definition, which was really vague, and if you would have completed your thought, instead of going for a quick quip, we wouldn't have had this conflict.
You also didn't say how your recruitment was going.
I am not a sir by the way, at least not most of the time.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:12 PM
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45. Just take a step back please
I mean really, if you want to find something to irritate you, look at some of the new replies. Sigh, we have so far to go as a species...
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:46 PM
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6. Trinitarian....which, I'll admit, seems to straddle some lines. nt
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:51 PM
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7. Monotheist
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The Inquisitive Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:04 PM
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9. none/apathetic
I do not consciously choose any.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:08 PM
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10. Monotheist,
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 05:10 PM by Kajsa
and a freelance spiritualist who does have
a home church.

It's complicated :P

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:46 PM
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11. I'm an "I-don't-care-ist" who can easily be provoked into aggressive atheisim. n/t
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:27 PM
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13. Guess which one I
voted for? :rofl:
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workoholic Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:30 PM
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14. Wow, more polytheists than I thought
I didn't know there were so many people who believed in many gods among us.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:46 PM
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17. Among Us?
What are we aliens from Ice Planet Zero ready to take over the world? lol
Pagans were the ones slaughtered if they didn't become Christians.
Is it that hard to believe that many of them kept their traditions alive to this day?
I guess the easiest way for me to try to explain would be the difference between a revealed and an organic religion.
In a revealed religion you have some kind of holy writing telling you someone else's experience with God.
In an Organic religion the Land speaks to you, the Gods communicate with you directly, there is no middle man.

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:11 PM
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20. Did you start this thread so you could fight it out re: religion?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:11 PM by jasonc
Cause that is what it looks like based on your replies to responders...
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:13 PM
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21. Someone starting fights on the internets?
I've never HEARD of such a thing...
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:15 PM
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22. Me either...
it's CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!1


:crazy:
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:28 PM
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26. no not at all
I wanted an idea of what percentages were actually what religion.
I am not trying to fight with anyone but having a discussion.
If someone says something I disagree with I will say so, and why.
I am not being mean to anyone here.
I have respect for what people hold in their hearts and that it brings them comfort.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:31 PM
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27. in that case...
maybe you should stop arguing with everyone that posts an opinion.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:45 PM
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33. There is a huge difference
between discussion and arguing.
I don't understand what you want me to do here.
I am replying, that is all.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:49 PM
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35. Also, was this question rhetorical?
if it was my bad. I thought you wanted a reply. It seems you have taken that reply as being argumentative.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:01 PM
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40. A simple Yes would have sufficed...
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:10 PM
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43. But my answer is no
But that is not why I started the thread. So my answer would be no. I thought just no is a bit sparse. I wanted to elaborate so I wasn't misunderstood, and someone got angry with me.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:30 PM
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46. Gee...
I wonder why...
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:14 PM
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50. OK
that makes no sense whatsoever.
Why are you trying to inject hatred where there is none?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:41 PM
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16. You should have included Deism
It's about as close to atheism one can get while still believing in a creator.

Deism is the belief in a supreme being, who remains unknowable and untouchable.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:06 PM
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19. That is the group I am in as well
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:19 PM
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23. I'm a Christian.
But not, you know, one of the weirdos... ;-)
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:22 PM
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24. Kinda sad how you have to specify that you're not one of the weirdos.
Especially since the whole religion is named after a guy who went around preaching love and all that hippie crap that us lefties like so much. :P
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:42 PM
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30. You're telling me!
That's my life. Every time I mention to someone that I'm a Christian, I kind of wonder what image they get of me. Of course, nearly everybody who spends any time around me learns pretty quickly that I'm a die-hard liberal Democrat, too. So they probably understand that I try to be one of the peace-love-and-forgiveness Christians, and not one of the kill-everybody-but-unborn-fetuses "Christians".
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:54 PM
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37. Yeah, when someone tells me they're a Christian, my first thought is usually...
"Are they the kind that actually follows the teachings of the guy the religion is NAMED after... y'know, Christ?" :P

Seriously though, moving to a place that wasn't infested with megachurches has much uplifted my view of christianity as a whole lately. That was really skewing my perspective before. They weren't the 'fire-and-brimstone-you're-all-going-to-hell' types... they were just the 'give-me-money' types. So all I saw there (with one major exception, the church I went to before my parents stopped going to church) were greedy people using their sheep to help them pay for mansions.

So how's that camel gonna get through that needle again? :)
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:41 PM
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53. "Christ" comes from the same root word as Krishna.
And the same root word as charisma.

Interesting fact.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:37 PM
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29. If someone says they are a Christian
I don't automatically think they are a weirdo.
People like Phelps ruin the Christian rep quite a bit.
The fact there are good people out there doing kind things for others, and this idiot is wasting his time on hate ,must just be sickening to Christians who actually follow the tenets of their faith, and not some bizarre interpretation.
Of course this happens with everything. There are always a few bad apples in the bunch.
Pagans? Heh, everyone thinks we are weirdos, just about.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:46 PM
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54. A big difference between the countries
when I hear "Christian", I rarely think of evangelicals or fundies, even though I'm in/near the hotbed of it for the upper 49th. Most of the Christians I know are either United or liberal Catholics.



Of course you're weird, but we love you anyway. :D
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:33 PM
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28. My religion is Kindness.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:35 PM by Shine
:D

"This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness." ~ Dalai Lama
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:46 PM
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34. That's a great answer! I feel the same way
you just put it more eloquently and succinctly than I could.

And my trinity is reduce, reuse, recycle. :)


Hiya, babe! :hug:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:53 PM
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36. Hiya, back atcha!
:hug: :loveya:

ShineGirl just got back from her 5th grade Outdoor Camp, a trip all 5th graders get to go on. It's 3 night, 4 day outdoorsy science camp experience, where they learn all about the environment, ecosystem, etc...

She came back with that same holy trinity of "Reduce, Reuse and Recycle". :thumbsup: It's a keeper.


:hi:
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:43 PM
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31. The Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic
That is what I would join if I cared enough to pursue my agnosticism. Their motto is "We don't know and we don't care."

http://apatheticagnostic.org/

I used to be an atheist but explaining and arguing took too much time and effort. A non-member of Apathetic Agnosticism is perfect since I really don't give a shit anymore.

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:54 PM
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38. That's better than the militant athiests...
"We don't know... AND YOU DON'T EITHER!!!" :P
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:05 PM
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41. Some of the atheists give other atheists a hard time!
That is one reason I gave it up. Plus living in the Deep South Bible Belt, having a Baptist minister as a relative and friends who are active Pagans all made atheism far too strenuous. Telling them "Apathetic Agnostic" sorta takes the wind out of everybody's sails. And if they want to push it, I just send them to the website. That place has enough philosophical discussions on all aspects to keep everybody off MY back. Someday maybe I will send them some money just to support the website since they've helped me out so much, LOL!
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:38 PM
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48. Ack, I meant militant agnostics.
Hence the 'we don't know' part. :P

I was being silly. I do that. Or rather, I was trying to be silly but accidentally typed the wrong word.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:40 PM
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52. That's OK - I don't like militants of any stripe.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:44 PM
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32. Druid
Oh wait, that's my World Of Warcraft character.

Warlock...crap, ditto

Shaman...check

Uhmmmmm

Secular Humanist probably.

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:07 PM
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42. I saw "druid" and had one hell of a reply ready...
until I saw the rest of your post... now it just wouldnt make as much sense, but here it is anyway.






You picked druid so you can dance naked around the fire...

:P
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:10 PM
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44. It still works
If you saw my Night Elf Druid dance anyway...
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:09 AM
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58. We follow the Righteous Path!
The path of Helm...oops. Too many RPGs.

Where does a Buddhist/Deist/Agnostic/Unitarian fit in? Those of us who believe there's something out there, but wouldn't be arrogant enough to think we know exactly what He/She/It is, and what all the answers are. Me, I'm still trying to frame the right question...

I suspect that playing well with others and not screwing up the environment too badly have something to do with it.

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:11 PM
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59. Wait... alliance or horde?
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 02:12 PM by DarkTirade
If you answer wrong, you'll be burned at the stake!

Or at least have a fireball lobbed in your general direction or something. :P
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:00 PM
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39. I'm agnostic
I would be an atheist, but there are some things that have happened to me that make it hard for me to completely rule out the existence of some kind of supernatural force at least.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:38 PM
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49. In other words, you know enough to know that you don't know. :)
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:34 PM
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47. Other. I'm a felatio-palien.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:16 PM
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51. Atheist
Although I'm sure the Buddhists will be angry at you for not including an apatheist option. ;)
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:58 PM
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55. Atheist.
But I'm not a jagoff about it. I like to make that abundantly clear to any Christians who might be around, haha.
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Myoho Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:06 AM
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56. Buddhist
:)
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:57 AM
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57. Apatheist. :P
I tease, I tease!

Although there are some scholars who argue that Siddhartha was an apatheist.
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:13 PM
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60. Agnostic
just another word for "raised Catholic"
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:13 PM
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61. I believe in acintya-bheda-bheda-tattva.
Best not to ask.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:49 AM
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62. Secular Humanist. Used to say Asthetic Pantheist, but secular humanist works
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:35 AM
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63. I'm agnostic.
Sometimes, I think about religion quite a bit, but I'm still not sure anyone can prove or disprove the existence of a God. It's not worth arguing about either. To each their own.
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