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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:13 PM
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So I got a response to my email:
Xema-

This is not, and has never been, a relationship, yet there is drama. I do not like drama, especially when it is unnecessary. I have been telling you for some time that I thought you were a nice person, who is smart and interesting, but that I was just vulnerable (and horny) that night when we were both drunk. Yes, the reason I RESPONDED to your advance that night when, again, we were both drunk, is because I thought you were interested in sex--not a relationship. Please don't make me spell it out any more plainly. Also, as a reminder, and to be very clear...we did not ever have sex.

Subsequently, during both of our discussions, I explained my vulnerability to you, and also let you know that a sexual relationship with you was not going to work for me, and that, in effect, it was a mistake for me to have attempted to have sex with you. You're smart--I know you can understand this. However, it seems that you are, and have been, creating something from nothing. I am now starting to get annoyed. As I have mentioned, I think it would be best (and I must now insist) that we do not spend time alone, not that we have--other than our one meeting to discuss this, and then another time, at your request, for twenty-minutes, to again discuss this, after DL. I hope it will not get to the point where I will feel I cannot show up at DL.

I am so sorry that you have any painful or unpleasant feelings directed toward me or, especially, as a result of me. However, the fact is that we are both adults and I would have expected this confusion to be over by now. I appreciate the thoughtfulness of a gift. However, I think you will understand when I say that I do NOT feel it appropriate for me to accept it, nor for you to give it. Please try to understand that if you are not able to move on from the problem you have with me, then I will concede the DL group to you.

Again, Xema, you are a very intelligent, compassionate and thoughtful person. Good luck with your job hunt. I'm sure it will all work out fine. BTW, the greatest gift you could give me (AND YOU) is to stop thinking about me. And, do yourself a favor: don't over-analyze this letter. It's all good.

Take care,
Jefe

P.S. If you write me back, please understand if I don't respond.




On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:14 AM, <Xema> wrote:
No worries....

I have two other favors to ask.

I got you a present, and I'd like you to accept it. Like, when I give it
to you I'd like you to say "Thank you, this was very thoughtful of you! I
appreciate it!" Then you can go throw it away, or whatever.

The other thing is sort of complicated and I'm not sure how to phrase it.
Basically, I am still confused about why you'd ever be remotely interested
in me. I really don't understand it. The cynical interpretation suggests
that you just thought I'd be easy, but maybe that's not the case. In the
service of helping me understand this, I'd like you to write me a
handwritten note with a few NICE things about myself. If you can't think
of anything true, make stuff up. (Short history: The last person I liked
took it upon himself to say MEAN things about me, so I'm trying to counter
that here.) I'd like it written out by hand, but you don't have to sign
it, and no-one else will ever see it or know it exists.

I know I've totally overthought this, and it's sort of pathetic,
demanding, and high-maintenance, but both of these things would be much
appreciated.

Oh, and if I decide to have a good-bye party, I'd like you to go.

After that I will drop off the face of the earth and leave you alone.




> Xema-
>
> I hope your trip goes well.
>
> I'm just not comfortable having a one-on-one friendship with you. I'm
> sorry.


>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM, <Xema> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jefe,
>>
>> I'm going out of town for a week, and I was wondering if you would have
>> lunch with me sometime when I get back?
>>
>> If you can't, that's okay.
>>
>> -Xema
>>
>>
>

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. My advice: Drop it
So not worth the time and energy. Let him go, and move on. :hug:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. The part that's missing from this exchange
is the part where he shoed up drunk at my house at 1 in the morning after I told him NOT to show up without calling first.

That was the advance that I invited.

That was followed by sexually lewd emails and endless rhapsodizing on how great sex with me would be, and how he would totally cheat on his wife with me if I was going to be leaving town.

Let's just say he's not presenting the facts in an accurate manner here. :P
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Oh Christ, he's MARRIED?!
:wtf:

Step away, and quickly... Jeebus. Bad idea, sister.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. of course, he is married.
typical married man BS. She needs to leave him alone. Sorry, Xema. :hug:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Oh, well DUH.
That doesn't take a genius to figure out. :P
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. ~
I feel so old. Ancient, even...have another :hug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #6
20. DANGER! WILL ROBINSON!
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 06:42 PM by JVS
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. ROFL!
:P
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. WTF?
OMG. Run run run run run. Eeeeeeeeeew........... WIFE? :wow:
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. Xema,
You need to quit. Leave him alone. Go on with your life without him. :hug:
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
3. ...
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:26 PM
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5. Idon't know the back story, but it sounds like he's being brutally honest.
Regardless of what went before, it's now over and you should drop it. You may be making yourself nuts over someone who is not worth it.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:29 PM
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7. Xema, this person is trying to gracefully move away and you're not letting him
Let him. You are at the point of borderline stalking now and that's not healthy. Let it go.

And you really shouldn't be posting his emails on here for all to read.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Hey, he showed up at my house at 1 AM
I told him I thought it was borderline stalking and to NEVER do that again. :P


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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. I saw that up above after I posted
But you're still trailing him with emails. Why? He's made it very clear that he's not playing so why keep poking at it?

And I'm just sick and twisted enough to ask - this isn't Catsbrains' husband, is it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7652554
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Haha
No, it totally isn't him.

But yeah, that WOULD be sick and twisted.

AND (sorry I didn't put all this in my OP) when he showed up at my house I TOLD him to GO HOME, so nothing happened. :P
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:33 PM
Response to Original message
12. You won't be getting anything from him.
Not feedback, not friendship, not closure, not so much as an 'f'-you. Cut your losses and move on.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. yup, i dont think it matter whose fault it is or what mixed messages he gives
he is not going to do anything for you. so let it go.

sorry. :hug:
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
17. Time to drop this and move on.
Don't insist or expect anymore from him now. He has advised you already that he is not going to respond or accept a gift. Time to walk away from this one and chalk it up to experience. Sorry.
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hatredisnotavalue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:37 PM
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18. Can I ask how old the two of you are?
If he's older than 18, he's already past his prime and if you are younger than 35 you are just entering yours. Move on...
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. He's 48 going on 18
:P
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Sounds like you deserve each other. nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:41 PM
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19. Sounds like it's over.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:31 PM
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23. Time to blow that candle OUT and move on.
you deserve so much better, Xema. :hug: Relationships with married men will only cause emotional suffering.
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