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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:56 PM
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Grammar: Doesn't anyone else want a sentence ending with "etc." to have 2 periods?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 04:00 PM by gwbsamoron
I've never seen this, but I logically wish it. (Sorry for the locution "logically wish", but fuck you). The first period is for the abbreviation, the second is for the sentence. It makes the most sense. This, of course, applies to any abbreviation which might end a sentence.
Obviously, I had drinks at lunch.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:03 PM
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1. What if it should end with an ellipsis?
Is it ect... or etc.... ?
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:05 PM
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4. My style rule dicates ....
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:40 PM
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22. BAAAAHHHH!!
It is E - T - C as in Et cetera. Wow, you tapped a nerve with that one.

Also, etc + ellipses seems redundant to me, but no rule that I know of.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:04 PM
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2. Solution: don't end sentences with "etc." (like I just did)
Problem solved!

:hi:

Bake
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:05 PM
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3. That's what I do - but I feel so limited!
It stunts my range of expression.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:07 PM
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5. How about spelling it out?
:shrug:
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:08 PM
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6. It would seem too pretentiously erudite.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:13 PM
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9. I suppose.
:shrug:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:56 AM
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19. Hmmm...
Et-a-cetera, et-a-cetera, et-a-cetera! :rofl:

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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:09 PM
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21. lmao
:rofl:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:08 PM
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7. No. n/t
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:12 PM
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8. It only takes one white crow to render the statement that all are black false!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:14 PM
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10. Yes, but one period at the end of a sentence is a distinct rule...
while I can't rule out the possibility of your theoretical albino crow. (Of course, that's probably because I'm an editor by trade. Were I a biologist, the crow would probably piss me off more. :P )
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:20 PM
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11. I'd ease some of the rules. For instance,
I'd allow "goed", but not the abomination "wented".
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:36 PM
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12. I'd respond in more detail, but my head's about to explode.
:P
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:40 PM
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14. No..
as in "One is the loneliest No.." :P
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:15 PM
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13. I agree with you. See my other post on more mathematically precise punctuation.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:39 AM
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18. LMAO
That. Was. Awesome. :rofl:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:44 PM
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15. four periods
one period is for the abbreviation, the three periods (ellipsis is it called?) is for the fact that you've left something open-ended

i dreamed i wore my maidenform bra...

i dreamed i wore a thong, high-heeled spike heels, etc....

am i wrong folks?
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:33 AM
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16. No.
I can't remember whether it was in Fowler's "Modern English Usage" or Fowler's "The King's English" - but I did read it specified that where a sentence ends with a full-stop indicating an abbreviation this also fulfills the role of ending the sentence; though if the sentence is due to end with a stop other than a full-stop (e.g., a question mark or exclamation mark) then both should be present.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:38 AM
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17. You should send this to....
Sars of tomatonation.com grammar fame :)
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:56 AM
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20. I wish that "irregardless" was a real word....
...because it flows so much better off the tounge than "regardless" or "irrespective", both of which are choppy. But "irregardless", it has a certain musical quality to it.

I also wish I could divide by 0. Always wanted to do it. Teachers never let me, though.
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