Six million people , dissapeared just like that

[UndertheOcean]

puff , and they were gone , in front of the whole world , and the world did nothing. In the twentieth century and in the most advanced civilization on Earth at the time.

Just like that , gone . A whole society projected all its prejudice and hatred to those lost souls and all illusions of human compassion dissipated.

And it can happen again ... as if once wasn't too much.

What an ugly world we live in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLV0o4AhE4

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. My dear UndertheOcean...

Yup, just like that...

And it can happen again...

We are all capable of doing that, indeed...

:(

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. Actually 11 million counting all victims....

....and that was just one of several major genocides in the 20th Century.

Add in Pol Pot's Killing Fields, Stalin's manufactured "famine" of Ukrainians in the 1930s, the Rwandan Genocide in the 1990s, and the Yugoslavian ethnic cleansing, and several other major genocides which are escaping me at the moment, it was one horrific century.

[Deep13]

4. Don't forget Armenia.

:-(

[Tommy_Carcetti]

5. True--that's another one. n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

8. Did you listen to the video?

The soprano soloist is Armenian-Canadian. I wonder if the tear on her cheek isn't real, rather than an effect.

[Deep13]

10. Um, didn't see it. See post #3.

[SoxFan]

13. Negligent Genocide: The Irish Famine

And don't forget the Japanese reign of terror in Manchuria and what's happening in Darfur even as we speak.

[geardaddy]

19. It was more than Manchuria

It was most of East Asia and South East Asia.

[Deep13]

22. The Irish famine was caused in large part by the export ...

...of vegetables as cash crops by Anglo/Irish land lords to customers in England and Europe. As a result, Irish famers were left with a single subsistence crop and when that failed, they were screwed.

[JCMach1]

23. Don't recommend the Armenian Genocide Museum for a day of fun

Our driver was the grandson of a survivor of the desert camps. Their entire family was wiped out but him. He was resettled in Lebanon.

Worst of all, denial is still Turkish government policy... :grr:

[Deep13]

26. I seem to remember that Dachau wasn't exactly an up-lifting experience.

Jesus, there are some damn depressing places in this world.

[JCMach1]

27. Ditto Holocaust museum in D.C.-- an excellent job

but it was hard to deal with then... Of course for a real downer there, make your way across the mall and do the Vietnam memorial the same day :(

[FloridaJudy]

12. Yes

Not just the Jews, but the Gypsies, homosexuals, Slavs, and other "undesirables". The Jews took the biggest hit, of course, virtually all of European Jewry, but when hate is allowed to get the upper hand, no one is safe.

When I hear some of the rhetoric against homosexuals and immigrants spewing from the Reich Wing, I get really, really scared. :cry:

[Deep13]

3. Can't watch movies here. Which holocaust do you mean?

If it's the Nazis, then it was 12 million, half of which were Jewish. I'm not sure I'd call them the most advanced civilization of the time, though.

[UndertheOcean]

6. I'm in a foul mood

100 years ago , in 1908 , nobody could have imagined 1914.

I dread what the future holds for our generation and our children

[GoddessOfGuinness]

7. As a musician,

I think it would be an emotionally wrenching experience for me to perform in that place. I'm not sure I could do it without spilling many tears on my instrument.

The soprano soloist is stunning. Interesting that her name, Bayrakdarian, is Armenian. Her ancestors are not strangers to genocide.

[TZ]

9. Whats more depressing is so many people

Refuse to even believe it happened.....:(

[Phillycat]

11. It's about to happen again - and in front of the whole world again.

While people do nothing.

Have you noticed how huge chunks of the developing world are rioting over food right this minute while you and I type this? Yeah. Millions of people are going to starve very, very soon. Rice producers have stopped exporting. Wheat production is in the toilet because of the climate changes. Nobody is talking about this. Nobody is mentioning how the US and Britain's economies are about to collapse, either, and what that will mean to the developing world. We're gaming the world's survival right now.

[Karenina]

18. It IS happening again. It's underway NOW!

Maybe it will hit your local theaters in a year or 20. :eyes:

[Burma Jones]

14. No, not just like that.........it took years and a lot of people saw it coming

Among them, fortunately, were my wife's Grandparents who left in the days after Kristallnacht. They had been preparing to leave for a couple of years by slowly sending their assets to the US by buying printing equipment and sending it here.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

15. I'm curious...

Were they Jewish? I often wonder how many non-Jewish citizens left Germany when they realized what was happening.

[Burma Jones]

28. They were Jewish.....n/t

[DS1]

16. You're welcome

oh. thooooose millions of people

:yoiks:

[Critters2]

17. I'm descended from Huguenots. A MUCH smaller group,

but the goal was the same. I'm still waiting for the Pope to apologize.

[regularguy]

31. I've been reading about the Huguenots lately,

the persecussion was incredible. I didn't sleep at all thinking about it the other night. While the Pope should apologize, it was really Louis XIV who was the worst villian in this sorry episode.

[applegrove]

20. Yes. It is happening in Darfur and the Congo as we speak.

[Haole Girl]

25. Thank you for mentioning this...

by the title of the thread, I thought he was talking about Darfur.



http://www.darfurscores.org/darfur

[Orsino]

21. And it happens again, a little bit, when the Holocaust deniers try to disappear them.

Inconvenient people.

[LadyoftheRabbits]

24. Yes, and well over

forty of my ancestors with them in Auschwitz-Birkenau and Sobibor. :(

[raccoon]

29. I agree, it certainly could (and has) happened again.

I disagree with you here:

"and they were gone , in front of the whole world , "

The whole world didn't know about it while it was going on. In the US, FDR and the higher ups knew about it, but the average American knew nothing about it.

After the war, most Americans, including soldiers who were there when the camps were liberated, were shocked at what they found. My guess is that average citizens of many countries outside Nazi-occupied countries didn't know about the camps.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

30. 28 replies with no mention of..

the millions "dissapeared" to make room for the "Sea Pirates" make the "Ugly world 'we' live in even uglier. Lo the comfort of denial!

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1492. As children we were taught to memorize this year with pride and joy as the year people began living full and imaginative lives on the continent of North America. Actually, people had been living full and imaginative lives on the continent of North America for hundreds of years before that. 1492 was simply the year sea pirates began to rob, cheat, and kill them.
--Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions

[asteroid2003QQ47]

32. Say it ain't so!

All Holocaust victims are equal but some are more equal than others?

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"Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign poicy towards the Third World because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries."
--Henry Kissinger, National Security Study Memo 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests

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